Marvel Comics blabbery

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Not really about anything, but CBR has a chat transcript with Marvel Editor Tom Brevoort and I snorted with laughter at this exchange, even though I don't know who Rocket Racer is.

Brad Curran: How about Rocket Racer? I'm in a shameless mood, so I'll ask if he's going to be in anything, too.

Tom Brevoort: I'm talking to somebody about Rocket Racer right now.

Cayman: Are you saying "don't ever mention Rocket Racer again if you want to keep working in this town?"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A ZOOM A ZOOM ZOOM

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

cooooooool

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Marvel in the 70s = DC in the 50s.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

NB: I'm totally wrong.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 12 September 2005 17:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

where is the goddamn DCU ipad app?

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll be surprised if they do an app soon. They just got around to making it non-flash.

I've been using it on the ipad through Safari and it's nice.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Do we really need a Deadly Hands of Kung Fu revival? It's only been 40 years since the last one...let's give it another 40 to really let the nostalgia build up.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Will it feature Shang-Chi? Still waiting on a reprint of Master of Kung Fu, which I think has always been scuppered by rights issue to do with the Sax Rohmer characters.

Love some of the Neal Adams covers on DHOKF

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 13:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I liked Shang Chi as Moench wrote him, but Hickman making him a spaceship-piloting Avenger was a development so wrong-footed it's sort of put me off the entire company, except for Bendis' Miles Morales, Waid's Daredevil and Wilson's Ms. Marvel.

WilliamC, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I just don't get the love for Hickman (in some quarters), everything I've read by him has been a dreary mess with no real feel for Marvel history/characters/style. But I'm totally Team Bendis when it comes to the Avengers - the best run on the title since Englehart.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Manhattan Projects is very good, can't really speak for his Marvel work besides a few FF comics which were pretty seemed fun.

tsrobodo, Sunday, 4 May 2014 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

xxp -- I forgot to mention Soule & Pulido's She-Hulk, which is 1001% fun, and beautiful to look at. Hawkeye has good moments but it's inconsistent.

WilliamC, Friday, 9 May 2014 17:56 (five years ago) Permalink

mmm pretty seemed fun

tsrobodo, Saturday, 10 May 2014 11:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I really like East of West. It's one of the few comics I'm reading month to month anymore.

earlnash, Saturday, 10 May 2014 14:36 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

lol 1985

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br9h7WFCcAEo1fl.jpg

poor Groo :(

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:50 (four years ago) Permalink

Groo back issues are hard to come by!

Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 July 2014 18:51 (four years ago) Permalink

I dunno if I have any anymore but that was a great book.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 18:59 (four years ago) Permalink

sales must have turned around at some point cuz it had a pretty long run (120 issues?!). I have fond memories of the storylines with his dog, who was even stupider than he was.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:00 (four years ago) Permalink

yo man, Hama GI Joe was dope can't argue with that
i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:12 (four years ago) Permalink

these numbers are from may 85... groo's first marvel issue was march that year.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:22 (four years ago) Permalink

ah that explains it

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (four years ago) Permalink

and yeah, groo was excellent.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 19:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

It's hard to imagine Marvel making so much of their bread off of adaptated properties nowadays. Everybody but them seems to have cornered that particular market of late.

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 July 2014 20:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:34 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Marvel (copying 2000 AD and other sort of indie lines) was ahead of DC with Epic and OGNS and whatnot

Nhex, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Kirby's Fourth World?

mh, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:36 (four years ago) Permalink

that included Superman/Jimmy Olsen

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:40 (four years ago) Permalink

Epic and OGNS titles weren't related to each other tho. What I mean is something like Ultimates or New Universe, where there was a series of titles that were related to one another, but totally separate from the "regular" continuity.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:41 (four years ago) Permalink

like, DC didn't have a bunch of Earth-2 titles (right?)

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:42 (four years ago) Permalink

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:47 (four years ago) Permalink

It was the first line produced by Marvel Comics utilizing a pre-conceived shared universe concept.

fit and working again, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:49 (four years ago) Permalink

I have a whole short box of nothing but groo. Can't even get at it rn (lol nyc) but I'm gonna wallow in them again someday.

how will the milf survive? (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 July 2014 23:04 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, groo was awesome

Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 05:25 (four years ago) Permalink

i loved groo as a kid. a bit sad that the collections available on amazon are a tad pricey.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 06:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Those figures are for postal subscriptions only, rather than newstand or comic book store sales

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Collections were only ever four issues too iirc, they could have gotten the whole series out if Evanier had switched to fat 12-issue tomes

sales must have turned around at some point

subscription figures aren't necessarily exactly proportionate with newstand and direct sales anyway

i remember picking up Groo into the late 80s, it went forever

it's still going, the last series was in 2010 (and there's a Groo Vs Conan that was due in 2011, but Sergio's illness knocked it off track [and Sakai's family troubles probably aren't helping him speed through it rn])

Looks as if Groo was the second-highest selling Epic title after the flagship anthology. That's not too shabby, really.

can't possibly believe the Heavy Metal knockoff magazine sold more than Elektra

Was the New Universe the first time Marvel attempted the alternate, self-contained universe of titles gambit...? Was there any precedent of a similar approach from DC? (DC was pretty explicit about the separate universes, but they didn't have entire titles devoted to alternate universes, did they? At least not until Vertigo?)

Vertigo wasn't an alternate universe, it was a bunch of DCU and otherwise self-contained books

boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Essential-style, phonebook Groo volumes wld be a winner, no?

Think Conan v Groo is finally coming out this year.

There was All-Star Squadron and that's about it for Earth-2 ongoings.

Before that there was an All Star Comics, also featuring the Earth-2 heroes, but since 'Flash of Two Worlds' DC have never exactly resisted crossovers between the two universes.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 07:54 (four years ago) Permalink

Groo was the first American-style comic I read after a childhood of Tintin and Asterix and The Beano. Anecdotally - it felt like Mad and Groo were much more widely read than the superhero books - maybe a UK thing? There were copies in every newsagent - plus (anecdotally again) it was never just boys who read them.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Groo was always tough to find in my area (NY), never seemed that popular around here. Probably because of the times (late 80s/early 90s). I was often surprised when I was able to find a copy

Nhex, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:48 (four years ago) Permalink

I think I got into Mad magazine as a kid before most comics but never saw Groo on a newsstand and hardly ever in a comics shop.

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 13:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Groo was dead easy to find in the UK, but I always suspected we mainly got the leftover comics that hadn't sold in the US

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:02 (four years ago) Permalink

Nah. For quite a while, Marvel US would swap a 15 cent (or whatever) front cover price plate for a 10p cover price place at the end of a run of 'colour' comics, so the Marvel titles in newsagents etc were produced specifically for the UK market, although certain titles (eg The Avengers) that had British Marvel equivalents were 'non-distributed' (ie you could only get them as imports.)

http://www.comics.org/issue/1057795/cover/4/

By the time that the cover price included both a US and UK price, comics were distributed to UK specialist shops just a couple of days after they went on sale in America, so not 'leftovers' either.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:12 (four years ago) Permalink

paper is heavy, I would imagine shipping comics overseas was at the bottom of their list of strategies

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:13 (four years ago) Permalink

really? woah, I always imagined when I was reading Marvel obsessively (86-88) that they were imports... thanks for clearing that up, Ward.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:27 (four years ago) Permalink

As a kid, I was always fascinated with Marvel comics from the UK whenever some neighborhood kids got their hands on one (usually Action Force, IIRC). Those larger comics with the different paper stock felt like alien artifacts. Even later, non-tabloid stuff like Knights of Pendragon looked so much different from what I was used to (which was largely due to what I think might've been a completely different color process than what was standard in most US Marvel books at the time).

The She's The Sheriff Mystery Hour (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:38 (four years ago) Permalink

I have mixed feelings on Kieron Gillen's recent Iron Man run, but using a couple Marvel UK characters (Death's Head and Dark Angel) was kind of entertaining

mh, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 14:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Stevie, I hope you won't mind if I make things a little clearer, still

The small, colour Marvel comics were always technically 'imports', in that they were printed and published in America. When Marvel comics were first imported to the UK, they would have a cents price on them and over that t UK price stamp, normally bearing a T&P insignia, which stood for the British distributors Thorpe and Porter Lrd. The comics were brought over to this country by sea mail.

At some point in the early 1970s, Marvel in America began to print a certain amount of their color comics with a UK pence price, rather than a cents price. This was done at the end of the printing process, a simple matter of swapping a printing plate, but it meant that UK pence copies traditionally have had shittier printing, more colour mis-alignment etc, which may have contributed to your impression that these comics were somehow 'leftovers'. They are generally deemed less collectible than the 'real' cents comics. But they were American Marvels, printed and published in the US and imported here.

Not every American Marvel title was officially distributed in the UK (these comics are known in British collector circles as 'ND' - not distributed - comics.) When the British Marvel titles kicked off in the 1970s, reprinting the American comics in larger size, black and white (or two colour) weekly editions, lots of the series featured in these UK Marvel titles - Spider-Man, Hulk, Avengers etc - were removed from UK distribution, so as not to distract from the UK sales, or confuse readers with stories from vastly different time periods. The only way for a UK reader to acquire these ND comics would be to subscribe, visit America, order them via a mail order dealer either at home or in America, or buy them from one a dedicated comic book store, like Dark They Were and Golden Eyed in London. Distribution of the Marvel Comics with British prices was always extremely patchy, but there's no evidence that any particular titles were 'dumped' on the UK market.

Again, at some point in the 1980s, Marvel began to print only one version of their American colour comics, with both an American and British (and Canadian) price on the front. These titles would be imported in large quantities by air to UK comic shops, typically going on sale just a couple of days after they went on sale in America. Or you could wait a month or so and buy pretty much every Marvel or DC as a slightly cheaper (cover) price, sea-freighted and officially distributed to newsagents and even comic shops.

Looking at a gallery of Groo covers, it seems that the first one with a joint US/UK price was issue 16, cover dated June 1986:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/groo-the-wanderer/16-1.jpg

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 20:18 (four years ago) Permalink

the "best defense" five parter? yeah, i have no idea what order to read those in. it's five #1s!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Picked up a recent issue of SPIDER-GWEN: GHOST SPIDER... Not sure why she's going as "Ghost Spider"; but apparently her identity has become public in her own universe, which I assume is partly a way for her to transition to simply using "Spider-Gwen" as her superhero name? She also seems to have gained a symbiote costume, though not much of note appears to be happening.

It is cool to see Takeshi Miyazawa's artwork; I'm familiar w/him from SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

mentioned elsewhere i think but i can strongly recommend the Avengers: No Road Home with Conan xover; it's well written and fun. The interaction with Hawkeye and Hulk in particular is fun to watch.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:49 (one month ago) Permalink

would love to read it but afraid to get on any weekly series as my LCS can be ass (yet i keep throwing money at them out of princple). i'll wait for trade

Nhex, Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:56 (one month ago) Permalink

so immortal hulk kinda absolutely fuckin rules huh

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 April 2019 22:09 (one month ago) Permalink

welcome

mh, Saturday, 6 April 2019 22:26 (one month ago) Permalink

it's so good! this al ewing guy is going places, lemme tell ya

the horror vibe works so well with the hulk, it's weird that it's been so rarely explored. it feels a lot like moore's swamp thing to me, which is about as high a praise as i can offer a book like this. lots of high weirdness and unexpected, unnerving twists on old tropes - it's a great example of a writer playing in new ways in the the marvel sandbox

i was definitely not expecting it to be emotionally affecting, but the moment in issue #13 where the hulk outlines his true relationship with banner (trying v hard not to spoil here) really got to me!

a photographer, satanist and ukip voter (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 10:35 (one month ago) Permalink

the devil hulk!

mh, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:57 (one month ago) Permalink

one could say immortal hulk has given me

sympathy for the devil

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Another unexpected consequence: some actually pretty awesome, non-boring Alex Ross covers

https://i.redd.it/5x3syd9anls11.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 April 2019 14:14 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, he's been doing really good work! and i say that as an avowed alex ross hater

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:16 (one month ago) Permalink

emaciated hulk vs eviscerated absorbing man was a v cool visual

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:16 (one month ago) Permalink

for sure
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/myfgjWIzTd4/hqdefault.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Moore's Swamp Thing is the exact comparison I've seen in glowing reviews that I've only glanced at for fear of spoilers. I look forward to reading it sometime in 2024 when I'm caught up with stuff being currently released (starting Secret Empire soon, can't wait for two years ago!).

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:35 (one month ago) Permalink

If it'll help, Immortal Hulk seems pretty much entirely removed from other continuity.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 April 2019 15:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm enthusiastic but also worried about the idea someone will pitch and actually get to write a Puck (mini)series after he's been a great character in several books, Immortal Hulk included

mh, Monday, 8 April 2019 15:58 (one month ago) Permalink

i feel like ewing is def angling for a puck-led book at some point

TV presenter and animal lover, Matt Baker (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 April 2019 16:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Puck's the next John Constantine.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Got to say, I was pretty underwhelmed by the usually great John Cassaday's cover to the recently released Conan Omnibus.

That said, editorial actually did some work on this one and it is packed with some really good bonus stuff if you are a fan of the original Barry Windsor Smith era of the title. They redid the colors more to the original 4 color and they don't look bad, always going to look different as the paper stock is so much brighter white in the first place.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51zK4pwlXqL.jpg

earlnash, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:42 (one month ago) Permalink

This one is better. Don't get what happened to Conan's head on the omnibus, I guess that is volcano head or something.

https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL106693?type=1

I kinda like modern artists doing interpretations of the original covers, if they have to use one not from the original series.

earlnash, Monday, 8 April 2019 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

I know this is a nerdy, late-night-at-summer-camp discussion topic, but has Marvel ever offered a cosmological explanation for how its different “universes” were created* & how they exist in relation to each other; why so many details across the various Earth-xxx’s are the same, but then timelines/characters diverge at certain points; how warping between them is so easily achieved; etc.? Or is it just “comic book logic”?

*notwithstanding their re-creation by Franklin Richards in the wake of Secret Wars, or whatever went on there.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 11 April 2019 04:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't know, and looking at DC, I don't want to know.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 11 April 2019 07:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Ahem, I believe you'll find that, while Franklin Richards created the Heroes Reborn universe in the wake of Onslaught, that it was actually Franklin's father who was instrumental in the creation of Prime Earth after the end of Secret Wars. (pushes up glasses, brushes nacho crumbs from stained Wlzards of the Coast t-shirt)

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Morrison actually did a decent job of putting the multiversal shit in order over at DC (even if DC ultimately took a shit all over his attempts). Marvel hasn't made quite as sweeping an attempt afaik.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 April 2019 10:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Al Ewing's Ultimates series (two of them when you count a mid-run renumbering, iirc) get into the cosmic entities pushing the buttons outside of the multiverse in a fun way

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:53 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, i'm working my way through those at the moment and there's some v fun cosmic creation/destruction stuff in there

this al ewing guy is going places, lemme tell ya

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:54 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean, I like other writers but he's good at what he's doing.

I'm kind of making the uncharitable assumption (well, uncharitable for the other writers) that he's responsible for most of the good character beats in the Avengers crossover fiasco title, too.

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 13:59 (one month ago) Permalink

i've only just started catching up with his stuff on marvel unlimited and his morrison / moore / ellis influences are worn maybe a little too obviously on his sleeve sometimes but the stories themselves are always fun and creative

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Mighty Avengers had a lot of heart and he salvaged about half the character team for the Ultimates gig

the actual series was screwed over by a relaunch that was immediately jacked up by that Axis event, and then ended relatively early due to another

mh, Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:20 (one month ago) Permalink

man, i HATE these
https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/ut-graphic-tees/marvel-x-jason-polan

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:05 (one month ago) Permalink

not feeling those

mh, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 16:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Draftsmanship on the buildings is p tight, everything Marvel-related looks like hot trash.

Joan Lunden just stole your laptop and I didn't even try to stop her (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Guess those decades of IP really panned out, huh?

It’s wild to see this marginal-seeming stuff I grew up with turn into a zillion-dollar cultural juggernaut. Excelsior, I guess...

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:29 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i hear you with that. The entire world is obsessed with a Darkseid knock-off!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 April 2019 00:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Would legit have liked to see Thanos taken down by Hawkeye and Ant-Man.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 29 April 2019 05:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I lost track of Jason Aaron's Thor as it got a bit dithery towards the middle of the Jane Foster run. The last book, though, "The Death of..." is a real return to form.

Not sure about the crossover stuff right now, as I haven't got that far...

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm wondering if there's a maximum number of big crossovers per year and they've been pushing the "war of the realms" that Aaron's been writing across Thors down the road for quite a while

mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

War of the Realms is typical Marvel insanity with regards to their publishing - a million tie-in minis. I'll wait until they're all collected and hope they end up at the library.

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 22:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

So how y'all feel about Hickman's (apparently long-planned) major overhaul of everything X-related? I know his Avengers run is divisive but I'll be damned if I know why. Dude's pretty much torn it up with all his Marvel work so I'm psyched to see what's in store.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:20 (six days ago) Permalink

I'm down for the two weekly miniseries, will see how it continues from there. I'm guessing everything they've done this year in Uncanny (Disassembled/Age of X) is some kind of set-up/filler for whatever he has in store.

Nhex, Monday, 20 May 2019 21:30 (six days ago) Permalink

I know his Avengers run is divisive but I'll be damned if I know why.
He excels at writing intricate long-term plots, but often the smaller details and character moments get overwhelmed by those grandiose arcs. I liked the massive Avengers megastory culminating with Secret Wars, but the fact remains that he failed to give most of the characters an individual voice, and wrote some of them (such a Thanos) in a way that contradicts how they'd been portrayed before. His FF run was somewhat better in this regard, because he had a smaller to cast to work with, so he did manage to do some nice characterisation too, especially with Reed.

But yeah, given that the X-franchise is kinda defined by its large cast of quirky and unique characters, I'm not sure if Hickman is necessarily the best fit for it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 07:29 (five days ago) Permalink

I think Hickman's on record about having Thanos foisted upon him. He did seem rather shoehorned into the saga.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:57 (five days ago) Permalink

I guess I do understand the qualms re: characterization, although I think he did all right given the scope of the story he was juggling. In the case of the impending X books, I think he's only committed to the two minis so I'd assume he's just engaged more with the worldbuilding, which I'm cool with.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:19 (five days ago) Permalink

I think Hickman's on record about having Thanos foisted upon him. He did seem rather shoehorned into the saga.
Even if a character is foisted upon you, that doesn't mean you don't have to respect the character's history. The way Thanos acts in Infinity and Secret Wars is as if The Infinity Gauntlet and his subsequent character development never happened. Though I guess we can blame Bendis for that too, but there was no need for Hickman to go down the same road. Given that his Avengers/SW arc ended in a complete reboot, he probably could've written Thanos any way wanted to.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:35 (five days ago) Permalink

"any way HE wanted to"

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:36 (five days ago) Permalink

Nah I geddit. There's probably an argument to be made that Thanos should only be written by or in consultation with Starlin (an edict which Marvel clearly doesn't respect inasmuch as Starlin has said the next Thanos hardcover is his last work for them).

FWIW, Thanos is one of the very small handful of characters who actually survived the destruction and recreation of the universe in Secret Wars so he is, in theory at least, the same Thanos he's always been.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:51 (five days ago) Permalink

Excited by this! There hasn’t been a big-ticket, over-complex long-ass run on something at Marvel or DC that I’ve enjoyed for a while - probably since GMo’s Batman and Hickman’s Avengers runs, really. Everything Hickmsn’s done for Marvel has been great or at least interesting - unusually, it’s his indie work where he’s more variable.

(Tbh I don’t really care about Thanos or his character consistency)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:18 (five days ago) Permalink

In the case of the impending X books, I think he's only committed to the two minis so I'd assume he's just engaged more with the worldbuilding, which I'm cool with.

He’s writing an ongoing after the minis too!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:22 (five days ago) Permalink

Didn't know that! Cool.

Yeah the two storylines you mention and maybe like Annihilation et al are probably my favorite mainstream epics of the century. Would love to think this might reach those heights but I'm tempering my expectations.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:25 (five days ago) Permalink

They’re doing a Marvel Age reprint series; I picked up the Black Widow volume... it reprints six old stories (going back to Mystic Comics #4), and has a long introduction by Ralph Macchio.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:20 (yesterday) Permalink


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