I Feel Bad For Charlize Theron

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Y'know, she must have thought it would only have to be some kind of badassed thing to do to portray AEon Flux in a movie. (That's what I would have thought - what in fact I myself did think soon as I heard anything about it, from the very beginning.)

And I feel kind of crummy for something I said about her in here somewhere because when I finally got to see MONSTER on DVD last month she was sexy but nothing pretty at all about it; she was a fkn masterpiece and I thoroughly loved the film.

Mark Mars, Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too, Mark. I remember making a remark and being happy when she fell and got hurt while making the movie, can you imagine that? I wasn't even going to go to it and then I saw the movie and felt she really captured Aeon. She worked at that role. Really, it was a compliment to the series at how well she played her.

I would love to hear what Denise Poirier thought of her portrayal, but something tells me she has never been here.

Barb e (Barb e), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt bad about how many people threw a ridiculous fit for her at comiccon last year. she was all geeking out about aeon and everyone was being silly.. ;)

skye, Wednesday, 14 June 2006 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlize did the best with what she was given. The writing was pretty bad, especially setting up her modivations...What was with the whole sister dying scene? But she was too beautiful...or presented too beautiful. Aeon is hard rock and Charlize is pop contemporary. To her credit, she managed to pull off the physical stuff with a kind of athletic grace that is straight from the animated series. I wish she had been allowed to bring some of the grit of Monster to the Aeon movie. In all this I do not blame Miss Theron...she is operating in the world that was constucted by others. Jennifer.

jennifer barclay, Wednesday, 14 June 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Aileen Wuornos vs Aeon
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monster mash, Saturday, 17 June 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, come on

Mark Mars, Saturday, 17 June 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

You really got the knack here don't you for just how to drop some hoary hundred dollar name right off the Jersey turnpike like a led balloon huh. I could feel just barely safe enough to assume you really had you half a hope of railroading any inventive invective or insinuations of stuff of some strain so sinister or at least as insalubrious as to warrant the wearing out of any shoe you can find at all fit to be tied to a trace of intentional undergrad velvet!?

For example, say you'd went and gone, "Camille Paglia Fatally Fingered by AEon Flux In Finking Faux-Feminist Farce!" Or, I dunno, or just a good, "Mary Woronov Invokes Ironic Distancing Vis-a-Vis AEon Flux Furor - Alleged intrigues Amid Myriad Cognoscenti Incognito And Vagaries Averring Vapid Voguedom," there, but NOOOOOOOOO!

Mark Mars, Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What a great name for a punk rock band. Finking Faux Feminists.

Barb e (Barb e), Monday, 26 June 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, whenever I get around to grabbing up a copy of the live action feature I want to see what happens with a couple of dumb editing experiments for me to try...the first one I'm looking forward to, of course, is the one where you just cut out all of the horrible Austin Powers-style one-liners ("'Good boys...'", or "'I'd keep off the grass.'" Etc., etc.)

Then of course the other totally obvious one where you rewrite/rerecord like half the fkn dialogue and do a crappy mixdown with the original music CD and so you just tell everybody you know when you show it to 'em that it's a crappy English overdub version of this real period foreign film from Fassbinder's Germany or something. I can't even WAIT to get going on THAT ONE !! But 1st I still got to finish up on a couple of uh some um (sure) Original Projects I still got laying around the floor here somewhere...let me see here - gimme a minute while I try to

Mark Mars, Saturday, 1 July 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No but seriously I just really have got to see how the damn thing plays without those horrible one-liners for once.

Shit - I mean, you can just tell in Charlize's general disposition throughout the movie, how she just KNOWS this is a fkn railroad contract deal from hell already or wtf my god. You know, I mean, god damn it!! I thought I got a total raw deal with MTV. I don't have a clue about what defines a case of abject professional career humiliation compared to what happened to Theron, here, for gods' sake, I mean I have no idea at all. I hope I get an opportunity someday to let her know that as far as I'm concerned, at least, my heart goes out to her for her own good faith and effort in trying to contribute what under other circumstances should have been a righteous piece of work. I understand, too, that as action movies go one must concede the movie is an outstanding, egregious demonstration of gross overambitiousness - a hand played way, way out of hand and so losing itself all over te fkn floor like I always used to do at every downtown L.A. art opening I could every chance I could manage to horn my way in on way, way fkn back there a million years ago back in the Loft Era there & blahblahyaddayadda so don't even let me make like I'm unacquainted with at least some such sort of likely hubris.

I suppose the lesson to be taken from this for anyone in Charlize's unfortunate position should be: If you're going to do something like Theron attempted to do in AEon Flux, make certain you only get into it with its original creative team being directly, fundamentally involved. Don't take chances with the chances you're taking! Bet on the known quantity.

I know it sounds awfully self-serving of me to come off so I-told-you-so about it.

But bear in mind I really did wish Paramount all the best back a couple years back when we were all of us on this forum still just discussing and conjecturing on what we at the time were all of us still looking forward to, with all thebaited breat in the world, then, as The AEon Flux Movie They wre finally going to go ahead and make!

Mark Mars, Saturday, 1 July 2006 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I'd love to see a re-edit of the movie.

Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Saturday, 1 July 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I might just do it, too, sometime. Or how about, "we?" This message board could settle in one fine weekend for a Mad Libs dialog-replacement exercise, scene by scene. Ala, say, "A Funny Thing Happened To Me On The Way To The SixPlex" or some crazy kind of shit

Mark Mars, Sunday, 2 July 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like great fun, though I don't know the first thing about editing. Maybe the professionals among us could take care of that, though...

Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Monday, 3 July 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Shouldn't be too hard to just do screencaps with new subtitles for each step of the movie.

skye, Wednesday, 5 July 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, that's basically what what Paramount did to MTV's AEon Flux amounts to: They just took it and ran away from home with it. That movie's the first full-on clone of itself!

And, wait a minute. I don't mean, here, to take it (discussion) away from the subject, here: Charlize Theron, I mean.

You know, I hope she still gets to make the kind of movies she seems to have meant to make, up to this point, at at least.

Mark Mars, Saturday, 8 July 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I have often wondered if Charlize, in studying the series, ever wondered what those plots meant. Or what they meant to her, and what she thought of the series. I'd love to know that.

For my money she could do the voice of Aeons clone, if that episode is ever expounded upon in the remaking of the series. That would not be a lesser position, even for her, a star, in my opinion. I still consider Denise Poirier to be the real Aeon Flux. I think Charlize, doing the voice of the clone, would be fantastic. Fun. She's in the club, for my money.

Barb e (Barb e), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn it Barb!! Why you always got to have all the good ideas! That's a great idea!!

Mark Mars, Sunday, 9 July 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I LOVE THAT fkn idea !!

Mark Mars, Sunday, 9 July 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow! I'm proud to be complimented by you, Mark - writer of my fav series of all time. Really, wow!

(God I miss that show).

Barb e (Barb e), Sunday, 9 July 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw, Barb!

You make me so bashful! How you doing, hon.

Mark Mars, Sunday, 9 July 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark, how am I doing? All I can say to that is 'you can pick your friends but not your relatives', sigh.

Barb e (Barb e), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

or in Aeon's case, you can pick your nemesis but not your clone.

skye, Wednesday, 12 July 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

or in Aeon's case, you can pick your nemesis but not your clone.


(Pretty fkn good, there skye! Thanks)

Mark Mars, Wednesday, 12 July 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
Check this out. Hehe.

Matt Rebholz (Matt Rebholz), Thursday, 25 January 2007 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link


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