those "natural" cheetos mentioned way upthread are really really tasty
― latebloomer, Thursday, 14 June 2007 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Nick Tosches research in that VF article is as sketchy as the research for his Jerry Lee Lewis bio.
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Nick Tosches scares me.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
He's totally compelling in an evil-M White I-am-getting-v-sleepy/I-must-do-his-bidding kind of way.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmm alto looking at GIS mebbe not so much -- but was thinking of this photo:
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/pimages/writers/images/ToschesNick_1l.jpg
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link
the same people wouldnt eat hotdogs for every meal,
wait is this bad
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
what if they're kosher
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
he has TH EBEST AUTHOR PHOTO EVER..
but hes creepy. he used to hang out at the lakeside and date one of the bartenders...
shasta's correct on the research end..but i dont xpect an experts view outta that guy...its a fun little piece that gives you somewhere to go and think...and definately provides an angle to reconsider what you think you know.
lips and asso's, pal...but tastey
― bb, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link
I prefer to believe that kosher hot dogs are not made out of lips & assholes.
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Don't stop believing.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Only the forequarters of the animal are used for kosher processing, including the chuck, rib, navel, brisket and shank. From these pieces, specialists carefully remove the veins, arteries and certain non-acceptable fats. Best Kosher Foods products are made with pure kosher beef from the finest cuts of cattle and use no fillers, extenders or MSG. One can be assured that only the highest quality meat is used in the kosher manufacturing process.
(Jewish propaganda?!)
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link
i like veggie burgers. But I like just grilling a portabello more
― deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost Yeah I just found that myself via google. I nevah knew.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.hebrewnational.com/images/pages/kosher/kosher_nonkosher.gif
Even flank and sirloin aren't kosher. Weird.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah man kosher hot dogs are the bomb for quality but suffer in taste b/c no pork products were harmed in the eating of this dog.
I too wd date Tosches if he were less than thirty years older than me -- but then I wdln't have a choice after the Power of Stare was applied, obv.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I cannot believe that kosher butchering wastes a WHOLE HALF A COW god talk about bad stewardship of resources, but okay go ahead and starve in the desert you legendary dumbasses. At least part of that is because when Jacob wrestled the angel, he was struck in the err thigh and lamed for life...so the part of the cow that corresponds to that tendon and the surrounding human musculature is TREYFE.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
According to something else I just read, it's not actually unkosher to eat the hindquarters, it's just really fucking hard to properly kosher the hindquarters so it's usually not done. I do hope they sell the halves to the non-kosher meat plant down the street or something.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link
but suffer in taste b/c no pork products were harmed in the eating of this dog.
RONG
xpost, Laurel your honorary Jewishness is getting out of hand
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link
My beef with Tosches' VF article:
1) His incorrect presumption that edomae (Tokyo style, nigiri-style) sushi is something with centuries of history (esp. with the middle classes) when edomae sushi is probably 60 years of history with the middle classes in Tokyo, def. post WW2.
2) Therefore spending 1,000 words tracing the roots of sushi in English language publications (wow a Library Of Congress keyword search!).
3) His incorrect presumption that sushi means = raw fish. Sushi = su + shi = su + meishi = vinegar and rice. The kanji (chinese character) for sushi is more like "rice snack" which he does actually find reference to in his Library of Congress search for earliest reference, but he somewhat dismisses because the reference predates edomae sushi and was historically correct, but he's taken an unconsciously ahistorical revisionist angle.
Then there's little matters of cultural translation such as him mistaking someone's politeness as an affirmation of fact, or another's frugalness and value as a wholescale declaration of preference. Including a kaiseki restaurant (one of my faves) as one of the keystones in an article on sushi is a completely ill-advised miss.
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Some of that stuff is totally amateurish
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm gonna read it anyway
― river wolf, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
It's def. readable, just need to keep some things in mind when he's digging deep in his research googlebar.
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Jordan: I have no idea what yr talking about. U meshugga.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway the part about Jake wrestling the angel is pure Old Testament stuff, I learned about that as a good little evangelical long before I got my Honorary Jewess card.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway that's why you can't get a real filet mignon at a kosher steakhouse.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
i have been eating a lot more sort of sugary food than usual lately. had this berry + granola + skyr yogurt parfait for lunch, which is basically like having dessert and made me really tired - i should know better!
scott my favorite good food disguised as dessert is fage greek yogurt 0% or 2% with like a little bit of honey and a banana sliced in, maybe some walnuts too. that stuff is great. super rich but low fat, low calorie, high protein.
i like veggie burgers that are made of soy and actual vegetables, though i'm not a fan of those boca vegan fake meat texture things.
i went vegetarian again lately for the most part (other than eating up some frozen fish i already had so as not to waste it) and trying to figure out what to cook that isn't high carb is a challenge - i already make tofu, seitan, tempeh.. what else? i had some natto at a sushi place in georgetown & it was pretty good but i can't seem to find any to buy in the stores
― daria-g, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Laurel I just mean you know more about it than I do, cio
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Of course I know more about it than you do, I think it's fascinating and has nothing to do with my life and you think it's a plague visited upon you for your mother's sins.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
i have never been to a kosher steakhouse! i don't even know if i've ever been to a steakhouse? (not counting the keg in highschool)
for lunch today i ate a salad of organic mixed greens and some org tofu that i cut up and poured soy sauce, wasibi and sesame oil over and then put in the salad. then i ate half a banana and a few almonds. this is kinda nothing new but it is not junk food health food. now i am writing about anatomy of teh gut.
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Sigh. Stewed lentils and an apple. Lunch.
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
power bars are not candy bars
― deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link
how much protein is in a snickers
― deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
i had a roast beef sandwich for lunch but it was on MULTI-GRAIN bread.
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link
i had fatty roast pork stuffed into a fried sesame pancake with cucumber, carrot, and cilantro. i win!
― lauren, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
cilantro = U LOSE
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
i had some trader joes peanut satay noodles and sauce. 21% of my daily allowance of sodium
― deej, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
excuse me, waiter i prefer guacamole sans leafy dish soap
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrobyn, et al
recently ive just been buying a thing of the fresh tofu, pressing the little cakes between some clean towels with one of my bros hueg architecture books, then marinading in tamari, some sort of chili sauce, sesame oil and whatever makes sense for a few hours, then cubing and baking at 400 for 40 minutes. i then toss that over whatever greens for salads for lunches all week...4 bucks total cost, at best...and solidly filling, low fat, low simple carbs, et...
of course, now i just want lauren's lunch...
i did just have two cookies...goddamn this office and its constant supply of baked goods at oppurtune moments
course you could just buy the preped stuff at any asian market, but..
― bb, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
laurel why u hate tasty??
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
less than $4, i think! tofu=$2, green=$5 for giant tub thing that last several meals!
i also want lauren's lunch
i totally forgot to put cilantro in my salad and i even have it :/
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
"Initially medical practitioners viewed the stomach as an active, almost thinking agent in the body. Galen saw the stomach as an animate being that could feel its own emptiness and generate the sensation of hunger, writing: 'Nature has granted to the stomach alone and particularly to the parts of it near its mouth the ability to feel a lack which rouses the animal and stimulates it to seek food.'"
O soapy green leaves once again I extract you from my burrito
― Laurel, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
apropos of nothing much, i am in love with the head chef at vanessa's (the dumpling shop). he has long elvis sideburns and wears his paper hat at a jaunty angle. and he makes a mean sesame pancake sandwich.
― lauren, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Not how I would put it exactly, but OTM :(
Cilantro rulez.
― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
haiku form! xpost oh man sesame pancakes and dudes
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
tall asian vaguely rockabilly dudes + fried sesame pancakes = yay
― lauren, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm out of food and still out of money. i'm going to raid my laundry bag in hopes of finding some change then i'll hike down to the produce mart and get some fruit. tomorrow can't come soon enough.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
laurel not liking cilantro braek herat.
― ian, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
ha i just googled vanessa's dumpling shop and momus' blog came up!
i must go there regardless.
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 June 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link