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First part of Chimera is pretty great.

― danski (danski), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

kevin lynch's the image of the city, which is on my summer reading list for school. i bought it today at the art/architecture bookstore on wilshire in santa monica.

― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 8 June 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

that looks like a good read. please give update when finished.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.curthoppe.com/Penthouse_letters.jpg

― Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

my dad reads those

― i shouldn't know this (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

that looks like a good read. please give update when finished.

the "image" he means is kind of a photographic image people mentally take of cities as they walk around them and navigate them -- a kind of moment-to-moment spatial analysis, or the way people are able to figure out/remember directions by recalling notable buildings and intersections and public spaces, and how dead areas and drab neighborhoods without any real nodes of activity make it easier for visitors to get lost. he looks at cities very systemically, by going into detail and then asking how those details function within the larger system. only problem from the reader's end is that it was written in 1960 and some of the places he's talked about have changed or are undergoing changes. what he writes about is still very relevant though.

― sometimes it takes an earthquake to know where the fault lies (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

jameson talks about that book in his postmodernism book. he draws kind of a tardish (like duh, but also wrong) conclusion from it though. i want to read books about cities/buildings but not that one. a different one.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link

JBR: THAT WAS FAST
CAITLIN: HUH? my favorite book about cities is Invisible Cities (Calvino). read that one.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I DON'T LIKE CALVINO, BARELY AT ALL. is it nonfiction though? the only thing i have read by him is the one about the winter night and the traveler and i got 2/3 done and i was like fuck, i don't even like this, so boring. then i quit. i like realism.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, you won't like invisible cities.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't know what kind of book about cities i want though. i want to know about architecture and poor people and politics. i don't mean like mike davis (is that his name i forgot), that guy that writes about slums and stuff, i mean like stuff about cities that is like, harder to read.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i liked this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0262024519/103-3321431-1142242?v=glance&n=283155

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

what about de Certeau's 'The Practice of Everyday Life'? or Henri Lefebvre's 'The Production of Space'? might be up your alley. I've never read 'em though. I just know they are supposed to be "the shit". and like hard and stuff.

I am reading the Peter Green biography (still). I bought Alan Lomax's 'Where the Blues Began' for cheap at the book fair on Sunday, and I hope to finish the Green and start the Lomax before the blues fest starts on Friday.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah! those were both on my mental list and i forgot them. i think i would really like lefebvre but i don't know very much about certeau. i think adamrl read that book.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i like pretty girls.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ok I like books AND pretty girls.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Its allaout the plightofconcering art verys love in humun bonage.philipcaresthe doctorsdaughterbecauceshepovide

I AM AN ASSHOLE.

duh.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

those were my drunk roommate.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

she's a funny one, she is.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Thursday, 8 June 2006 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

finished the frank kogan book. now onto THE UNB EARABLE LIGHTNESS OF BEING

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

a man without a country
david boring
ice haven
identity crisis
the metamorphosis (comic version)
.net gotchas
ajax hacks
c# cookbook
xpath
xslt 2.0

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 8 June 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Ball Four (in anticipation of meeting the author in 3 weeks)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf @ dissing barth & loving calvino

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i like italians.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

winters night is one f the worst books i ever read

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i said i like invisible cities brah. dunno about that other shit.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i have some issues with imagined cities. ones i've dreamt about while asleep, etc, so i'm partial to anything about Cities being Invisible.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

new george saunders

prometheus + seven against thebes - aesychlus

turn of the screw - henry james

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

henry james >>>> everybody else on this thread

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Calvino sucks a million dicks.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

thank u

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i always imagine him as the sleazy dude from the onion 'european men are so romantic' point-counterpoint

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I have this idea of him as a Eurotrash David Foster Wallace, which is pretty much the same thing.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

henry james is boring

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

actually the only guy i like is balzac

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

calvino's collection of italian folktales is great.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

what james have you read?

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

(i am only being contentious and really don't have that strong of an opinion on henry james). i have read 2 things by him (long time ago) but i forgot what they were. i think daisy miller? and something else. i don't like stuff from that period usually, though. i really do like balzac! and flaubert.

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

but what about invisible cities? do you hate that too (addressed to everyone who dissed calvino)? that's the only one i like.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i love balzac & flaubert

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

if you had to read james for jr high/high school, then i'm not surprised if you hate him (though you might hate him no matter what- who knows?) as he's one of the most badly-taught authors.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i read him on my own. i will try again someday

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

'On biting the tongue' is pretty great.

― danski (danski), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

'On Hashish' is pretty great. walter benjamin making up cutesy silly names for objects in his field of vision.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

if you love Balzac and Flaubert, you might like Portrait of a Lady better than Daisy Miller. if you don't like Portrait, the later James will just piss you off, though.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Calvino rules! F the haters.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Calvino rules! F the haters.

if on a winter's night a traveller makes my head spin. in the best possible way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

have any noize dudes read Henry Miller's Time of the Assassins? i'm about 40 pages into it, and so far it just seems like Mr. Miller is comparing himself to Rimbaud. i don't know whether to keep going or leave it on the shelf. does it go anywhere? or does he just keep describing all the little details of his life that correspond to Rimbaud's?

― killy (baby lenin pin), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't read that one. I'm not a huge Miller fan. His books, for me, seem to run together into a stream of bitter, lonely sexuality.

That said, I got (for free) a nice copy of his letters to Anais Nin this weekend. Guy at stoop sale gave it to me.

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i got a free copy of one of Ninny's diaries a few weeks ago. it's kind of boring.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

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