boca burgers is owned by philip morris
― and what, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Re frappucino: they're not that much like milkshakes in that they're made with crushed ice instead of blended ice cream. Which is why they're basically not creamy, it's just frozen water and not fat for that lovely lovely mouth-feel.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
they have a dairy mix as a base, i believe.
― lauren, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
certain foods being not as healthy as advertised is really not shocking at all! and honestly it probably is better for you to eat the all-natural cheetos just to avoid preservatives & dubious cheese color.
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmmm that could be. I think I've never had one...? But those blenders they put in are deffo made for ice, that shit is hardcore.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
O_o @ cosmos
― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
probably a good place to re-link to that NYT article that was discussed a while back
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t.html?ei=5088&en=7c85a1c254546157&ex=1327640400&pagewanted=all
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
SMARTFOOD
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
the thing is bocca burgers are just full of odd processed stuff and wheat gluten and so on...one occasionally is fine, but people that think theyre being healthy or ethical are deluding themselves. their junk food and poor substitute for meat...
turducken is fantastic...but really a bit much...its fun and tastey, but kind of a waste. you really would be better off with 4 seperate small portions of well cooked birds.
― bb, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
what's wrong with gluten? i mean, provided you don't have celiac disease
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
nothing really wrong there, just not "good" for you. our bodies don't love wheat to begin with but, (like anything) in moderation it won't come near hurting you..
i worked in a veggie freindly kitchen for a while...the problem with this stuff is that you get people that "want" to be "vegetarian" but dont do the work to find out how to eat that way or change their lifestyle....they think they can just eat these meat substitutes and its good for them....the same people wouldnt eat hotdogs for every meal, but when they see "morningstar farms" on the box they think theyre doing something different and/or decent.
― bb, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Isn't it generally bad for :
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
-- and what, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:58 PM (2 hours ago)
It's called Altria and they even own your poop.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, I forgot that the Kraft Foods division was spun off, so your poop may be under a separate corporate entity now.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
ben otm re: veggies. my sister and her fiance are very serious about eating well-balanced meals but for every couple like that, there are probably 10+ people who eat too many carbs/cheese/etc. on a daily basis just because they are easily accessible foods without meat. i definitely ran into this problem in college when my dorm offered a "vegetarian" choice at every meal, but that choice was usually cheese lasagna, eggplant parm, or something equally as unhealthy and lacking in balanced nutrition. they had a salad bar, too, but i think their veggies were coated in some kind of preservative or pesticide because i could not eat the lettuce without being ill afterwards :-\
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Those baked cheetos are actully pretty good but they seriously disappoint in the leave-your-fingers-covered-in-awesomeness department.
― nickalicious, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link
oh god food service salad bar.
I try to eat raw fruit or veggies now with ever meal
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link
of course i am drinking HFCS RIGHT NOW :(
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
According to Starbucks, a 16 oz Caramel Frappuccino with *whip*=
430 calories 16 g fat 10 g sat. fat 52 g sugar
Maybe not *quite* as bad as a milkshake, but pretty bad.
BTW a 16 oz BURGER KING shake is actually healthier, with about the same level of calories & fat but no saturated fat. (god knows what's in it)
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
bell labs, i am not but i am trying to cut down on animal fats (except bacon)-- elmo argonaut, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:47 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- elmo argonaut, Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:47 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
haha, me too. i've cut down on meat in a big way, mostly because it's expensive and a pain in the ass to prepare. basically i just buy bacon and eat it on the weekend, in burritos.
if i could afford the fish out here, though, i'd eat that shit 94/7
also: that michael pollan article is great.
― river wolf, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link
space age polymers, bro xpost
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah i do not understand frappacinos at all and how they are considered a beverage - i see women holding on to this hueg cup and i'm like that's food, that's practically a meal! i also have a thing about big take-out cups. they are weird.
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link
yoga told me to be a vegetarian and then it told me to eat some chicken the other day so i did and now i seem fine again with being sometime-veg whatever. i don't really believe in most packaged food in the first place <-- obv (also, not a yuppie)
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
see also: lattes. soooo much milk - surely that's enough protein and other stuff to tide you over for many hours, not to accompany a meal, right?! xpost
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Also lattes are pricy if you buy them a couple times a week.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link
also if you're putting caramel in something that something is a dessert
i am no fun :(
xpost people be liking to spend money on dumb stuff they think is cool cf headbands
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link
except for the cool headbands
and the cool coffee
i guess
iced coffee poured into a plastic bag and frozen into the shape of a headband
― river wolf, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link
dot jpeg
and getting r@ped by don cheney
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link
people in brazil eat a lot of stuff that's not great for you -- juice with every meal, cheese and meat like crazy, loads of starches, loads of sugar, big portions. but they're all in amazing shape because they all play soccer and volleyball and lift weights and go rollerblading.
― get bent, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link
i want to play soccer
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i've been drinking acai a lot -- it's very caloric, but a big one makes a filling lunch on a hot day.
― get bent, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link
acai?
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link
i want to be in brazil i think
rrrobyn i am playing soccer in exactly one hour! i just joined an "adult" league ("adult" -- i got randomly assigned to a team and i think i might be the only person who can buy beer)
― river wolf, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link
you would have a good time here, rrrobyn
― get bent, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link
not just a berry, a lifestyle! http://www.acairoots.com/
― get bent, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link
i was going to start a rooftop soccer league but it fell through.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link
since people got arrested on roof
omg that would have been awesome
― river wolf, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link
whoa the world of acai!
y'know i think there's an indie rock soccer scene here on wed nights (but usually i'm busy wed nights anyway) but you know my feelings on indie rock. and scenes.
i need to adopt a bunch of kids or something like in a movie and then have a soccer team
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link
we would live on a big rooftop
we would also be spies
some of us would be robots
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link
we would drink regular water and eat oranges not vitamin orange hydrasuperinfused water maybe we would have a dog
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
air bud: world pup
― river wolf, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
no not that dog
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link
a black one!
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link
https://casasanchezsf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/totopos-casa-sanchez-sf.jpg
― brimstead, Friday, 18 September 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
literally my entire diet belongs in this thread, i have put on like 30 pounds in the last couple of years, envy my life
― zoso def (m bison), Saturday, 19 September 2015 02:52 (nine years ago) link
“I don’t think much has changed in the energy bar landscape—just more crowded!” writes Eskin, who still works as a food writer for the Tribune and other outlets. “The culture of the time focused on athletes—who presumably ‘needed’ quick, portable nutrition—and everyone else who wanted to seem just as buff and busy.”
Long read on the rise of the power/protein bar:
https://www.topic.com/hard-to-swallow
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link
This thread has everything.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
https://thumbor.thedailymeal.com/Sk8bL8_na9rnPhp2b9yc_HivQtk=/870x565/https://www.thedailymeal.com/sites/default/files/story/2016/RX-Bar%20Title%20Image.jpg
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
https://i0.wp.com/www.eatthis.com/wp-content/uploads//media/images/ext/918357171/kind-bars.jpg?fit=500%2C366&ssl=1
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link
here's a good example I discovered recently
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51E71WaNp-L._SX522_.jpg
Just 10g of protein and 300 calories, with likely less than half of that protein even coming from "crickets." $36 for 12 on Amazon.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
Admittedly I am probably way too reliant on Kirkland protein bars, premier protein shakes, and various brands of vegetable protein powder for nutrition. Sometimes I wonder if it does me any good at all.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
I don't really think people eat Beyond burgers types of things to be healthier? I could be wrong. I still haven't been able to try them. Boca burgers have always sucked so bad otm all above.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
That piece on protein bars is depressing. It's Lunchables for adults. I thought the era for them ended in the early part of this decade. I was obv wrong. The last time I bought one was when I was going 5 day hiking/camping and needed to carry all my food in.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
Can you still get those Powerbars that were like a thin slabs of tar?
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link
I’m crazy about these, I don’t know if they count, they’re not made for scarfing/wolfinghttps://roweofvenice.com/collections/snacks/products/espresso
― brimstead, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link
um did you mean to post that on the Naked Juice thread
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 22 January 2021 03:27 (three years ago) link