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the rest of the young disc

three - radio introduction
four - Sunday Morning Blues (young, zazeela, mclise, conrad, cale)
five - B Flat Dorian Blues
six (no info, but I'm guessing young / zazeela / conrad / cale)

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

thx for the roedelius! i need to find thsoe somewhere. shit. the moebius stuff is good too

― amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

what is the name of the young disc? i've never been able to find his cds. "map of 49's dream yadda etcc." is blowing my mind

― amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a cdr bootleg I found in amoeba LA -- color xerox packaging with a picture of the log cabin Young was born in on the cover, surrounded by huge titles: TONY CONRAD -- THEATRE OF ETERNAL MUSIC

which is funny.

The original thing was two discs, each one track, I put in track divisions and removed two additional 'Blues' tracks to fit it on one disc.

I've never heard the Shandar double album if anyone has a good transfer of that -- it's got a 40 minute version of "Map", also with Hassell but no Rosenboom or Konitz.

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

wow so someone "liberated" more tapes from youngs archives heheh. awesome. this is way better than that bootleg table of the elements put out.

― amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

there were many Young radio marathons, I've got two tapes from a KPFA one & that german 4 CD set that made the rounds two years ago, and there's no overlap in any of them.

the table of the elements release is confusing, I know several musicians who say that many people had copies, if only taped off the air, but still with better fidelity & music than 'Day of Niagra'. it almost felt like a conscious smear job from Conrad, putting out something so subpar -- 'everyone says your precious, legendary unreleased archive is so great, well I'm going to shame you into releasing some of it by putting out the fuzziest piece of whatever I can find'

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I slsked some wicked young stuff, some from a 4 cd bootleg, like the 1957 excerpt of For Brass and other stuff that I have no idea where it's from. Worth searching for.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I found an original copy of the 2 LP Whatever Happens Next by Swell Maps a few weeks ago, near mint.. it's an official release of mostly demoes and live stuff. The live version of "Midget Submarines" KILLS! I'm digitizing that fucker and YSIing it for y'all once this weekend ends, and I can relax a bit.

― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

tony was not the person behind that release. that's quite offensive slander, and he's not like that.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I would be surprised if Mr. Conrad would take offense at that comment, and it's hardly slander when you bother to read the words 'almost felt'. No one's doubting Conrad's integrity here, if anyone's earned the right to give Young a tweak, it's him. And it's hardly that 'Day of Niagra' is bad -- it's just not as good as other readily available tapes.

Not surprised to learn it wasn't even Conrad behind the ToTE release, though.

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, perhaps you know -- did he not even have a few scattered bootleg copies of the Eternal Music tapes, excerpts from radio festivals, etc.? Friends out here say they were readily available, but I shouldn't assume Conrad had any of them.

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

no, anything he might have had was wiped out when his storage area flooded in the 80s.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

McRad - Weakness

Public Domain fans out there???...a SHREDDER.

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Milk - Knife Song
Blind Video Days Fans....Jason Lee Intro.....SICK BROS.

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Tar Babies - Rockhead

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i still have thrasher skate rock cassette w/ mcrad, steve caballero, cargo cult, etc..

― amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post

ouch

well I hope he's got copies of the bootlegs now, and I hope someone with half a sense of sanity starts managing Young's archives soon

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

NICE AMON.

I HAVE THE FIRST 6....THEY RULE.

― ddb (ddb), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.obule.com.br/fotos/thrasher_4.jpg

the cargo cult song is the highlight, biscuit from big boys on vocals

― amon (eman), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah that VOL. is probably the weakest one...skatemaster tate and all....

― ddb (ddb), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

used to have a skatemaster tate tape... i think "skateboard shuffle" is the only song i can remotely remember tho and that's more cause it was in sfac.
m.

― msp (mspa), Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Just ordered Vent de Guitares. Thanks very much for that. Do you know how they tuned the guitar strings?

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to love this. I still think it's a great piece of music on it's own terms. Now I wonder, however, if there's something problematic about how prominent the guitars and electronics are next to the gamelan. Definitely worth a listen though, I think - Evan Ziporyn's "Tire Fire" with Gamelan Galak Tika:

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YKKLDVW0H6FZ275Z4EWJURTJ4
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IQ9CJFNJXSWM3UKGHNKK4Z913
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1M4E21ONNW2260LI4LS8KT7JW9
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0X2QM6LVJTPD02Q8ARIRBUK2KN
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=206B9K4651E8Z1TRKX6DS3S5RI

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Dominique: That may be the case. I'd wondered if JC stood for John Coltrane, given the sax (-like?) sounds. I haven't read the notes to the set.

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Milton, thanks for all the great music. Did you still need Baby Sex?

*pause*

Er ...

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link

This guy in Iraq is making glitch stuff using war sound samples. Poor guy is from New Orleans, too, so getting home might be difficult. His site has MP3s but for a buck apiece. Seeing as how he's getting shot at I don't feel like posting them here, but I thought I'd point you there if it interests you.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post you have no idea how badly I need Baby Sex

Sundar: each track on the CD is composed with a different open tuning, the tunings are provided in the liner notes along with some incredible pictures of the installation.

Francois Bayle - Toupie dans le ciel from Erosphere, composed 1979 (excerpt from 25 minute piece)

― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

that Albert Marcoeur is fantastic. the only other thing I have by him is Album A Colorier, I need to order more...

― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The Residents - Baby Sex (one of three zip files containing three mp3s)
http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U49PF1SRVDAO24HVWKB1EH0OB

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

the TOE/ La Monte Young alb is an nth generation copy of a recording once archived by Arnold Dreyblatt, tho again Dreyblatt did not have anything to do w/ its release

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://kill.artfags.org/~allen/why%20do%20you%20love%20birdys.mp3

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Sunday, 25 September 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Part two of Baby Sex
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=112ZQHTZ0AV7A3508KFML1Q0T4

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

finally found an mp3 of kagel's staatstheater! -- i think this was the very first "anti-opera". the "plot" is the absence of one -- apparently the characters dress up for a perf of figaro/siegfried. The point though is that they've nothing to sing or do. Instead, they make noises on household items or do vocal exercises (this theme of damaged expression is one thing he keeps hitting on).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby Sex part three (final)
http://s56.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2K5WQN2LXOP3C01RRSNBY8B3Y2

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Julio, any performer information on the Kagel?

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

all i know is that the mp3 is a cut taken from the deustche gramophon 2LP set and it ws perf by the hamburg state opera.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool, I did find out that it was on DG but nothing else. Thanks!

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, here we go.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

wow that's a great box - thanks for the info!

hopefully there'll be a DVD of this one someday.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

http://wizardishungry.com/mp3z/NEXMIX.mp3

BY ALLEN RILEY

― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J5LUKVYJ7LI30TAZPGMJU9LOR

anonymous - up to you

― brock (brock), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank You Brakhage

This is fantastic

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Well this is all I'm listening to today.

The original packaging (at RzWeb) has track times for each track, and they all check out with these mp3's, except for the title track, which is a different edit of bits of 'Wean' & four minutes longer than the time on the box

I wasn't sure if the WB Album actually existed in full, because the only tape I've been able to find is a fragmented transfer and I'd heard a rumor that was all there really was... but this is interesting:

http://yuccatree.org/red/mu12_wba_cd.html

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

There's another Residential oddity called 19 Mysterious Tracks which is demos, etc. You might want to slsk that up; I don't have the whole thing.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

You have Santa Dog, right?

― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I have the 72 & 78 versions. I remember not liking the '88 version. curious about http://www.rzweb.net/uweb/santa92.html

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Ack, I forgot there are a bunch of different ones. I think I have the earliest one, the tracks are called something like 'Die in Flames' or something.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

it was their first release, and still one of the best

Arf: Do you ever?
Omega: Do you ever
Arf & Omega: Wonder who you are?
Omega: Well, Kick a cat --
Arf: Kick a cat --
Arf & Omega: Kick a cat today!
Omega: Fish are dumb --
Arf: Pluck an eye from one
Arf & Omega: Kick a cat, Kick a cat, Kick a cat today; Fish are dumb, pluck an eye from one!
[Repeat, slowly joined by The Singing Lawnchairs]
The Singing Lawnchairs: Weescoosa Knows The Way...

― eyes are big for what they weigh (Jon L), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Sainkho Namtchylak - "Ach So (Dedicated to Women)". There's a minor glitch at the start of the track.

― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Katamari On The Rock performed by DOKAKA (ripped from the game -- We Love Katamari official OST still pending)

26 minutes long, tons of subsections, this is epic

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

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