The best of Marc Loi : Facebook Feminist

http://community.feministing.com/2009/05/how-men-can-be-better-feminist.html

in fairness that could be all otm, did not read

Twelve: Feminism is not a dating service - if you think women should fall all over you just because you're feminist, you're in the wrong movement. If, in the course of doing feminism, you happen to meet someone and you both want to date, then fine. But if you think feminism is a dating service, it doesn't need you, and you don't need it - you need to learn social skills as to not have to use feminism to get closer to women.

Kinda falls into the "not that I'd ever want to see you nude because I respect you as a person" category.

But hey, dude's probably 95% walking the walk and defending Iraq to boot, so what do I care?

Loi-brand feminism has a perverse fascination with dudes being boneheaded neanderthal anti-feminists by nature. It's like listening to one of those evangelical preachers who focuses on sin & the Fall of Man etc. Of course my clowning him on this thread would probably just further confirm whatever beliefs he has that contributes to his distrust of males but I'm in it for the lols man

it seems like some ppl run into a particular explanation for the way the world is when they're young and stick with it, for some it's 'anti-semitism' or 'the matrix' so this doubtless a net plus for the ppl in marc loi's life

If, in the course of doing feminism,

Loi-brand feminism has a perverse fascination with dudes being boneheaded neanderthal anti-feminists by nature. It's like listening to one of those evangelical preachers who focuses on sin & the Fall of Man etc.

This is really, really on the money. He does appear to define himself as against what HE THINKS other people think like! Quite a bit part of what makes his spiel so annoying.

I think you mean "makes his spiel so lol-rrific"

quite a biG part, even.

It varies, I guess, NV? Sometimes, it's funny, sometimes JESUS STFU ALREADY.

I'm sure if I was sharing a tent with the guy it'd be JESUS STFU ALREADY but at this distance he's just some magnificent stuffed specimen of...something.

I guess to me, ppl who's steez is to tell you what you should be thinking reallky set my teeth on edge. Reminds me of radical veggie/huntsab guys who were on the periphery of my social circle back in the '80's. No fun to be w/.

Yeah, I guess "stuffed specimen of..something", I mean I haven't encoundered someone like that IRL since the '80's now I think about it.

lol University in the 80s....good times. I recently saw some photos of the Student Union in Hull circa 1990 and it was all NICARAGUA BENEFIT posters and debates about whether Blue Velvet shd be banned for misogyny. The same building today is all mobile phone ads and topless celebrity disco coke party nights. NB Am not saying the future is an improvement.

Yeah... I mean, a bunch of that shit was terribly over-analytical, prone to bossiness w/r/t the opinions you should have about a whole variety of shit, quite embarrassing in retrospect, but at the same time, preferable (as in: infinitely less depressing to contemplate) to adverts on bus shelters for the local spearmint rhino knockof peeler bar or ladmags or wtfe.

http://community.feministing.com/2008/11/bitch.html

But, me? I love bitches! I love each and everyone of them, and I don't care what society says. Of my relationships, only one was with a bitch. It was good. I didn't have to treat her like anything other than a human being. We respected each other, and loved each other, but knew we didn't need each other. She did her things to change the world, and I did mine. For Christmas, she donated $100 to Planned Parenthood for me; and I donated $100 to the Make-a-Wish Foundation for her. She kicked ass.

She's only one among many bitches out there.

Hillary Clinton = a total bitch.

Gloria Steinem = the bitch of bitches.

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch.

Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton = the foremothers of bitchery.

Angelina Jolie = the biggest bitch in Hollywood (although one would argue she's a privileged white bitch, which makes the complexities of class, race and gender the moreso interesting.)

My future wife = better be a bitch.

My future daughter = will be raised to be the biggest 5-year-old bitch in pre-school.

The next time I am on a date and decide the girl is good enough for a second date, I'll say with the utmost sincerity, "You're the biggest bitch I've ever met." I think I'd enjoy getting a black eye in a restaurant.

All of you who with whom I associate = total bitches - and if you're a male, you're an honorary bitch, and I love you all for it. In fact, I think there might be something wrong if, in the 21st Century, a woman isn't a bitch.

the guy "this guy" was made for

i've always argued that angelina jolie is a privileged white bitch

barf

this guy is the gift that keeps on giving.

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You haven't convinced me that men can reclaim the word.

It's honestly rather grating.

pwned

keep wanting to tell the dude where he's missing the point, but then I'd really be missing the point

Thoughts?!?!?

"Of my relationships, only one was with a bitch. It was good. I didn't have to treat her like anything other than a human being."

I don't get it. What have his other relationships been with?

here I was thinking I wouldn't be finding a new screen name this week

lisa seems pretty nice IMO not bitchy at all

that's because her bitchiness is fictional

you know, i'm beginning to suspect that marc loi doesn't know what he's talking about

My future wife = better be a bitch.

i think this might be the real deal here

For those who cannot see the video, a little boy, a 3rd-grader, is organizing a rally for gay marriage!

While I am against parents using their children as political tools, if this is something he wants to do on his own, more power to him!

Marc. Wants. Feminist. Babies. Now.

oh hell I'll explain it for him since he'll never come here, and therefore remain ignorant:

While misogynists very often call a woman a bitch as she is acting intelligently and s some self worth, a great deal of people use it to indicate negative aspects that all people feel are negative aspects, not just misogynists. If someone says "I am a bitch" then it's generally assumed they mean a positive, take-it-back connotation. The Loi saying "Lisa Simpson is a bitch" is about as acceptable as me saying... well, you fill it in

that's what she said.

i wish he would post here. if he really cared he would.

we should tell him we have a lot of bitches here

we should get him on a thread with kate

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haaaa

actual giggles out loud

The next time I am on a date and decide the girl is good enough for a second date

"Can't Rape the Willing"

This is a rant on the phrase "can't rape the willing," which, in recent days, I've heard many more people say.

About a week ago, I was telling some friends about a new hair salon in the Hampton Roads area (my hometown) in which attractive stylists are hired simply for that reason, as to attract more men. "Hot chicks cutting your hair," is their selling point, and you can sort of think of it as yet another Hooter's, except there are no wings and fried pickles, or the kick-ass roasted oysters, for that matter.

In response, one of my friends wrote me back: "But is anyone forcing those women? You can't rape the willing." This, for me, shows great lack of insight on the plights of women, as well as the challenges women face economically. For this, I'll try to frame the arguments through the lens of, firstly, economic choices, and secondly, as rape itself.

Firstly: there is a difference between "will" and "desire." That is, while I am willing to follow the law, I don't often necessarily "desire" to follow the law. But my choices are limited - either I follow the law or I go to jail.

The same applies for some women who enter into industries that use their bodies as a selling point. While those jobs may not seem "desirable," some women are "willing" to take those jobs based on the limited choices they have.

If you're given a choice, as a college student, between failing out of school or selling your body, in some instances, you do sell your body. What this speaks of, then, is the lack of choices women are given - and as well, that they lack the economic autonomies to make actual decisions. Limited choices, then, aren't truly choices, but rather, something forced upon women. In some cases, I do buy into the argument that porn, indeed, is rape.

Couple women's lack of choices with societal messages of what women are actually good for, it's no wonder why some women "choose" to enter into industries in which they have to sell their bodies. I am not saying these women are making these choices out of ignorance, I am merely saying these women make choices because they have no other choice.

Is a choice really a choice, then, when it's between a rock and a hard place? Did women pre- Roe v. Wade really have a choice then? Surely, they could have had the baby and ruin their careers, they could have spent thousands of dollars to go to states in which abortions were legal, or, they could induce their own abortions, risking deaths. If we understand choices in terms of reproductive justice, then why are we still blind when it comes to women's lack of economic autonomies?

On the subject of rape, framing through the same arguments, while no one "desires" to be raped, given the choices between getting your throat cut or being raped, for some, rape is a choice - albeit not much of a choice. Given society's victim-blaming mentalities, and the heteronormative attitudes about dating and sexuality, most certainly, some women would be willing to lay there while a date or boyfriend has sex with her when she doesn't want to have sex . This, most certainly, is the definition of rape, is it not? What does this mean then?

It means, for me, that in these situations in which women are faced with making tough choices, power as well as gender and economics come into play. It also means that the next time you are decide to say that some women are making choices out of their free will, check your privilege, because it may not always be what it seems.

in conclusion: hottttt ladies giving haircuts -----> rape -----> abortion ------> life is not what it seems

lol it is a mystery.

he knows the hooters menu pretty well for not being a rapist

okay so going into porn is like following the law? this shit is making my

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imma gonna stick my neck out and say that marc loi is kinda otm there

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lj, two hours ago

imma gonna stick my neck out and say that marc loi is kinda otm there

― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), 09 December 2009 03:54 (6 hours ago)

about the hooters menu, i hope you mean?

Dr. Chomsky said nearly the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlRoaFTHuE

think i posted this before on another similar thread, but economic pressures make just about everyone do stuff they'd rather not. mcdonald's isn't where the employees go to get their fix of daily dignity, y'know?

+99% of the people who went to work this work this morning. we all gonna get raped.

given the choices between getting your throat cut or being raped, for some, rape is a choice

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