LJ

do you think your empathy for political radical liberation resistances are due to a) your other feelings of impotence within your own nominally democratic political structure, such that identification with these separatist/nationalist/socialist movements creates a sense of catharsis, b) symptomatic of your own freedom in a real democracy which you feel ethically compelled to extend to all ppl everywhere (nb this is the opposite of choice a), or c) some third unidentified reason? i'm specifically interested in the correlation (if any) between living in an ostensibly liberal western democracy and yet rooting for the basques, or ya know, body modification proponents. plz make statements as sweeping as possible - try to speak for all western leftists in the world if you can.

Absolutely a), absolutely not b). Oppression is everywhere, and community is under threat from forces that would atomise it into consumer demographics or worse. Democracy is a sham. Self-expression is a political fight against the reductive machinations of the exploiter, except when it's co-opted by the exploiter as a means to slyly force a consumer identity. Communities abstracting themselves from direct servitude in any cultural, financial or aesthetic sense is imperative

how does the Innocent Smoothies aesthetic factor into this?

Self-expression is a political fight against the reductive machinations of the exploiter, except when it's co-opted by the exploiter as a means to slyly force a consumer identity.

wd argue that this "except" approaches 100 percent in cultures exposed to capitalist economics. there are possible resistances/subversions that don't rely on ideas of authenticity.

why did you quit facebook? we are having a very important british ornithological discussion that would benefit greatly from yr input

what bird is on this label

http://cdn.gauntleys.com/productimages/800/wine/st-cosme-cote-rotie-2004.jpg

why don't you just make a fake profile and say you're Leon Britton?

A stonechat, so named because its call sounds like two stones in percussion. Cute li'l thing

I quit Facebook because I was getting nothing out of it and because it creeper me out. Maybe returning under an assumed name is feasible

creeped, e'en

is there seriously a bird called a stonechat?

look it up! I've seen one, on some windy heath somewhere

was it standing athwart

Yes. Athwart a stout shrub.

misread that as snrub

don't all birds rest athwart shrub or tree branches, it's difficult to see how or why a bird would sit parallel to the course of a branch

have you ever seen an owl in the wild?

Yes. Barn in flight, Little at rest, Tawny a silhouetted outline against the Tuscan gloam

owls ✓

illuminatus!

lux aeternam tulerit

did you just agree 'lux' with 'aeternam'? it's either 'lucem' or 'aeterna' depending on object/subject. 'he/she/it will have borne eternal light' vs 'eternal light will have borne'. sort it out nakhers

you guys are adorable.

as it is, your quip means 'light will have borne the eternal thing', which perhaps works

I'm gonna make it work, in fact

wait, are you nultifying latin?

we've entered the aetherial realm of ilx posting

clearly i didn't decline lux separately because it's all the same entity, there can be no lux without aeterna

believe this is the first time nakhers has been punked on ilx. will accept a hi-5, sarahell

and you haven't responded to jenx just jenxing it in a way kyle walker wouldn't have managed

lev++

I'll say it here: Arcade Fire produced by James Murphy is probably the aligning of planets that will get me permabanned, so I'll just grit my teeth and avoid

is that the LCD Sucksystem dude?

yes

seriously dude make a fake fb profile for some obscure football player

Het liep weer storm. Ja, in onze lijstjes uit het:

Schaduwkabinet

We luisterden naar: Autechre, Sylvain Chauveau, Matt Elliott, Mendelson, Pinkish Black, Max Richter (3x), Swans, Talvihorros, Zrní, Adje, Daz n WC en Eliane Radigue. En keken naar: Reality.

― Jan Willem Broek, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:26

have you considered learning dutch?

it seems tantalisingly easy if impractical. dutch colonies not places i especially want to spend much time in

Dutch is the realest language

we found an attractive cardiacs fan 4 u from bosnia herzogovina btw

she seemed like she would be :D one crazy customer as well

oh you guys

lol

she was v v cute!

maybe i'll go exit festival next year (with wins, natch) and serendipitously bump into her

imago, I meant to ask this on the Hero and Leander thread but I forgot: What do you think of the band Dogs Die in Hot Cars? I ask because I think this track of theirs sounds like Cardiacs being covered by Hero and Leander and I wanted to see if you agreed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klzQKWKGgs8

an okc search for "cardiacs" yielded 4 ppl i know irl before I got to yours fyi

Oh wow, this is VERY Cardiacs at points, melodically speaking! Obviously with a great big indie-rock sheen & dull songwriting. I mean, it doesn't have the magic but it's got something of the spirit.

I always liked them, there seemed to be something very confused in the way they were conceived and marketed- like, on the one hand some of the stuff they did seemed to be trying to position them as 00's equivalent to Squeeze something and then they did press shots like this (NSFW).

good lord

yeah they were put across as 'another indie band' but there's maybe more to them

picked up Joe Jackson, Squeeze too makes sense. for me the 70's/80's synthpop band that nobody's tried to follow up at all is foxx-era Ultravox! and I think that's telling (that Ultravox! were fucking amazing)