rolling enlightening music discussion thread

Just really solid classic-style rock guitar playing imo.

oh god, i'm afraid to google that but that is exactly the sort of terrible post that i am prone to making when i'm at a low mental ebb :(

― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this ends up being me 70% of the time i post about music, i just do it anyway but try make it as short as possible tbr

I am really terrible at having anything interesting to say about music tbh, I shouldn't even bother with ILM

isn't dying young an inextricable part of being a kurt cobain? or is a kurt cobain that didn't die young just a billy corgan?

― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1. Taylor Swift, 1989 - There's some good and some bad on this album.
2. Ariana Grande, My Everything - No.
3. Azealia Banks, Broke With Expensive Taste - Yes, absolutely! I had no idea it would be this good.
4. Miranda Lambert, Platinum - Whatever, she's alright.
5. First Aid Kit, Stay Gold - Strong first half, at least.
6. Tinashe, Aquarius - Great!
7. Lana Del Rey, Ultraviolence - People still like her. That doesn't bother me.
8. Kelis, Food - Jerk Ribs > everything else.
9. Lykke Li, I Never Learn - I love this one.
10. Beyoncé, BEYONCÉ Platinum Edition - This was my #1 album from 2013. Still love it.
11. One Direction, Four - I haven't listened to this, but I like some 1D songs.
12. Ex Hex, Rips - I actually wish I liked this more.
13. Jessie Ware, Tough Love - Better than her debut. There, I said it!
14. Various Artists, The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 - Is Lorde on this? No thanks.
15. Angel Olsen, Burn Your Fire for No Witness - I'm fine with this. Hardly ever listen to it.
16. Dolly Parton, Blue Smoke - Dolly, always.
17. Jenny Lewis, The Voyager - It's no Rabbit Fur Coat, but what is.
18. FKA twigs, LP1 - YES!
19. Perfume Genius, Too Bright - I have to be a mood, but when I am this is wonderful.
20. St. Vincent, St. Vincent - I like it more each time I play it (which isn't often).

So no, the whole list isn't shit. Maybe only a tiny little bit of it is.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:17

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFtb3EtjEic

There are 7 hiphop albums on the pitchfork list in a year where they only bnm'd 2. It was kinda the same last year. For some reason, rap consistently gets lower review-scores and less accolades compared to how much their writers like them. It's really weird. Or really, it's not.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:06 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hm

ilm is gonna be real enlightening for the next month and a half tbh

haha otm

i may as well just post my thoughts about 2014 albums in this thread instead of the other

attn: whiney

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lol

I don't know what the deal with Rock-A-Rolla is. Last year it came out Dec. 19. Last week I was updating my subscription and emailed them asking about it, and no answer.

― Fastnbulbous, Friday, December 26, 2014 12:59 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think I can guess at most of what would be in Rock-A-Rolla's top 20: YOB, Godflesh, Swans, Earth, Goat, Secret Chiefs 3, Electric Wizard, Wovenhand, Shellac, Aphex Twin, Einsturzende Neubauten, Floor, Boris, Bong, Alcest, Baptists, Helms Alee, SBTRKT, Liars, Ben Frost.

Maybe top 50: Crippled Black Phoenix, Tombs, Lantlos, Thou, Sólstafir, Melvins, Mogwai, Cynic, Ides Of Gemini, Indian, Obake, Gridlink, Giant Squid, Black Moth, The Atlas Moth, Nadja, Midnight Masses, Eyehategod, Nothing, Pallbearer, Opeth, Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band, Moab, John Garcia, Protomartyr, Gold Codes, Carla Bozulich, Have A Nice Life, Conan, Esben And The Witch, Horseback, Fucked Up, Woods Of Desolation, Comet Control, Motorpsycho, Syd Arthur, Messenger, The Soft Pink Truth, Trans Am, Flying Lotus, Maurice Louca, Fatima al Qadiri, The Skull, Serpent Venom, The Oath, Kikagaku Moyo, Total Control, Fu Manchu, Orange Goblin, Lo-Pan, Monster Magnet, Marmozets, Bracken, Pontiak, House Of Lightning, Gazpacho, Young Widows, Slomatics, The Flight Of Sleipnir, Dir En Grey, Oozing Wound, Ocean Chief.

― Fastnbulbous, Friday, December 26, 2014 2:13 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, and of course that Scott Walker + Sunn O))) album. Substitute for one in the first list, like SBTRKT.

― Fastnbulbous, Friday, December 26, 2014 2:15 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp Rock-A-Rolla doesn't publish new issue until Jan 10, so I guess that's when the list will be out.

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:42 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude you post on year end critics list threads

I don't email editors and write fan fiction though

the vanity of bulbous differences

in other news, whiney g. wengarten again holds that he is cooler than someone else on the internet

if not emailing the editor of a magazine about where their year-end list is makes me cool, then i'm miles davis

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Come To Your Senses is the best track here, but it took me some time to figure it out.

― nostormo, Saturday, 3 January 2015 09:39 (3 days ago)

Glad u cleared that one up for us. Can you tell us now what the best song ever in the whole world is?

― ..but is he a virtuoso? (Raccoon Tanuki), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 12:23 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just my opinion

― nostormo, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 12:36 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Could having a black president have anything to do with it? Or is that almost a reason as to why there should be more politically/socially concious rap?

― MarkoP, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:36 (8 minutes ago) Permalink

:D

Kanye - better producer than mccartney, better singer tHan mccartney, better lyricist than mccartney, better performer than mccartney, more interesting person than mccartney. Other than that I'm sure 72 year old person will add so much to this record

― the fuckin catalina wine mixer (sleepingbag), Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

his ham bean soup is better than mccartney's too.

lol at handwringing about misogyny in rap with the right hand and cheerleading indie rock (some of the most institutionalised misogy music going) with the left

― ||||||||, Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:54 PM (1 minute ago)

mi sogy life

were they talking about the Owen Pallett record!?

pussy

lol

is indie rock really that notable for its misogyny (compared to other genres)? most of the indie rock bands I listen to are female-fronted, so idk if |||||||| has a valid point.

lol fgti

:D at all of this

"in conflict" more like "problematic"

It seems that everytime when this subject is brought up here, the kneejerk reaction among people who like misogynic/sexist rap tunes to say "but other genres too it do!" (even with genres where sexism is clearly less prominent) instead of trying to honestly address why they are not bothered by the lyrics, or why they can get past them even if they are bothered.

Just to make sure, I've listened to a lot of misogynic/sexist rap myself, I know there are historical/cultural/sociological reasons why sexism is more prominent in some types of rap than in many other pop music genres, I know that I'm a white European and that the complexities of the lived experience of many of these rappers is something I can never fully understand, I know you have to contextualize sexism, I know that it doesn't make sense to directly compare genres with a wholly different approach to lyrics... So I can still listen to that kind of rap when the sexism isn't blatant, but when it become too gross you just get tired of trying to jump through so many contextualization hoops, so you're just like, fuck it, there's enough good rap music that doesn't do this shit, so why should I listen to one that does, why should I support musicians who help to reproduce the idea that one half of humankind is worth less than the other half?

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thanks for saying what I was too radged-up to say :)

there's no reason you should, which is why it's a good thing nobody is saying you have to listen to, enjoy or agree with misogynist rap

xp I think ppl got annoyed because you didn't give much indication that you are aware of all the things tuomas spent most of a paragraph assuring us he is

there's no reason you should, which is why it's a good thing nobody is saying you have to listen to, enjoy or agree with misogynist rap

Of course, but my main point was that I find it kinda weird that, with people here who apparently enjoy some sexist rap tunes (and vote for them in polls), when asked about how they're able to enjoy that stuff, their favourite response seems to be, "but there's sexism in other genres too!". Well of course there is, of course blatant sexism in any kind of music should be questioned, but I don't see how this is justification for tolerating it in these particular tunes. And I'm not saying there can't sometimes be good enough reasons for tolerating it, but this kind of "the other kids are doing it too!" rhetoric is just dodging the question instead of addressing it honestly.

maybe ppl aren't grading their tunes based on politics can u imagine

... or lyrics

we should lock contenderizer + tim f in a thread together and let them generate text for eternity

When we polling this muthafucka?....

― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, January 30, 2015 5:44 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am generator hear me text

Faust Arp is probably my favourite track now, although it was Weird Fishes for ages

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 6 March 2015 13:25 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nude makes this album. Everything else hangs around it.

― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 14:16 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rubbish, boring album, maybe their most boring album

― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Friday, 6 March 2015 14:29 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

skilfully eliding the next post

Kyuss pales in comparison to a lot of the bands listed here. Finding a groove, turning up to 11 then moving on to listen to rush Limbaugh or Sean hannity or whatever the fuck that idiot is into is not my idea of a great band.

― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, September 13, 2014 9:38 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Poliopolice
Posted: 9 April 2015 03:13:07
"Under My Thumb" by the Rolling Stones is pretty misogynistic.

Do you have eclectic taste in music?

i can only imagine

yeah, no one is making lists or arguing about ratings

lists of eclectic formats