rolling Jericho calls The New Day trap queens 2016

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I watched most of the New Day match (and promo), Jericho's promo and match, the NXT tag match, and the main event. I didn't bother with the bait and switch in the Brock match, not like I particularly want to see Wyatt vs Lesnar either, but what was the point of any of that?

Jericho doesn't get enough credit for what he does. He comes back when he feels like it and couldn't care less about where he is on the card or even whether he's on TV (during one comeback he only worked house shows). He has more than enough money to retire or to come back once a year for a WM payoff/ego boost, instead, he seems genuinely interested in going on the road and having feuds with guys he's never worked with before and putting them over.

Ambrose/HHH started slow, but really picked up by the end. The crowd reaction to the false pin was huge -- was anybody in WWE paying attention?

I'm all for more of these glorified house shows (Roadblock, Beast in the East) from WWE.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link

been reported that Bray's got a fucked-up back and wasn't up to working the match apparently, dunno how far ahead of time this was known

Windsor Davies, Monday, 14 March 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link

i suppose there's no reason to expect anything interesting to happen on a glorified house show but it would be nice if wwe could do something surprising ever. nevertheless it was a solid card, apart from sami-stardust mess. really enjoyed charlotte-natalya too, patented divas match finish aside.

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Well, Bray and Heyman both cut backstage promos about the match during the show itself, so ...

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 14 March 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

That Enzo/Cass vs. Revival match was fantastic. As earlier posts of mine in this thread will attest, I am a big Scott Dawson supporter. And I love Enzo's high-speed crossbody. That's a beautiful move.

JRN, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

yes ^ and they looked like they belonged on the big stage even enzo. cass looked great.

Mordy, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Taker vs Shane is really going to be the main event at Mania, isn't it? At least they won't have to worry about Reigns getting booed by 100K people to close the show.

Supposedly there's still backstage heat on HHH for appearing on NXT Takeover when he "should" have been selling the beating he got from Reigns on RAW in December. This stuff is baffling, even for WWE in 2016. They've got a network that airs 8293854 different kayfabe breaking shows, but HHH not staying off TV long enough to sell his fake injuries is what's killing Roman Reigns' push? IDGI.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 09:11 (eight years ago) link

hey so uhhhhhh NAKA-FUCKIN-MURA was on NXT last night. for real i don't think i actually care at all what they do with Mania at this point - actually this isn't quite true - i hope Dean Ambrose goes full CZW on Brock Lesnar and gets F-5ed through a titantron screen or sthing, I hope Shane O'Mac goes off the top of the cell through a table, i hope they fully follow through on Reigns/Triple H in the most obvious way possible and the fans vomit all over the whole thing from start to finish, i basically hope that it's an entertaining car crash of a show

BUT the point I'm making is that it doesn't really matter if WM is a busted flush bcuz this NXT special is gonna have me forgiving all their sins. which, as has been previously noted itt, is exactly what it's there for. 2 weeks man, I AM HYPED for this show and i am gonna be STAYING HYPED, believe dat

suicide commando, Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

is aztec warfare the same week as takeover dallas and wm32 and i guess the post wm raw? cos that could truly make it the best ever week in wrestling history (if wm isnt shit)

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 March 2016 07:11 (eight years ago) link

I notice the later start time for TakeOver, it's at 10pm eastern. Which means I think I'll be going to bed early that Saturday night and setting the alarm before 3am.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 18 March 2016 09:52 (eight years ago) link

I am tempted to finally get the network, how is it for people on laptops? How is live streaming in general, especially for bigger events?

Alternatively eh fuck it im poor and will spend that weekend trying to avoid spoilers and have a crazy wrestling monday off work.

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 March 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link

I've rarely had a problem live streaming, whether on my laptop or through the big TV on the PS3 or Xbox One (occasionally on the Nexus tablet I have issues streaming archive stuff but I think that's more down to the Android app being crap). I think it's only dropped requiring a refresh only once, and that was so long ago I don't even remember what event that was. In general the worst that'll happen is the HD feed will drop to lower def for less than a minute.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 18 March 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

yeah i never had problems with it

suicide commando, Friday, 18 March 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

i've been having streaming problems since i changed my billing info :/ main page streaming isn't working and whenever i click one of the links i get "Bad request

Your browser sent a query this server could not understand."

:/ :/ :/

sometimes some things work

qualx, Friday, 18 March 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

nvm clearing cookies and cache fixed it

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

anyway i have a basic laptop with integrated hd 4000 or whatever and streaming is fine, it's all capped at 720 and it doesn't frequently go below that. pre-hd vids look beautiful and play well.

the ui sucks however

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link

that fenix mil muertes match last week!

Mordy, Sunday, 20 March 2016 00:56 (eight years ago) link

got bored of trying to smash through an entire series of Lucha Underground so skipped right on to Ultima Lucha which was amazing as everyone had already said, am currently enjoying busting thu the 8 spidodes of LU Season 2 that have been broadcast so far in order to bring me up to date.
aside from that and NXT i've been watching a ton of Georgia Championship Wrestling 19880-1982 which has been incredibly fun so far.

BUT the most fun ive had with anything for months and momnths has been my rewatch of WMX7 which was one of the first shows i ever stayed up late on a school night and paid out cash monies to watch live as an 11 year old school boy and have always remembered fondly as a special and important event and here i am 15 yrs laters rewatching it in full for the first time and MY GOD but it is fucking unbelievable (a) how many of these guys would go on to become uberimportant within the world of professional grapple dudes and (b) how fucking awesome so many of these guys were at the whole grapplin thing in the first place

i mean it really has been probably been a full 15 years since i watched any of these matches but the TLC and it is all awesome and amazing and i honestly don't get how in the name of heaven a wrestling promoter could have a roster this stacked and contrive to fuck the whole thing up forever and ever man fuck vince mcmahon you hubristic chump, how the hell did you fuck this up??!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!????????????????

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 02:54 (eight years ago) link

and yet perhaps there is some kind of salient pro-wrestling lesson in all of this in so far as you can have an entire roster filled with p. much peak-era, never-this-good-again Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Hardy Boyz, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal, Edge and Christian etc. etc. etc.

and yet none of it meant a thing in the end bcuz all of that shit up there ^^^^^^ multiplied up together is not even close to equaing to ONE HOT STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN in the right place at the right time which all just shows what terrible taste yr mainstream wrestling fan has i guess

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

ONE HOT GUY in the right place at the right time is worth more than all the talent and deliberation and foresight in the world when it comes to rasslin is i guess what i am drunkenly and wordily trying to say. Roman Reigns is so boned

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 03:06 (eight years ago) link

It's interesting to look back at WM17 just to see how many people from that show are still active on the roster (i.e. wrestling several times per yer). I count seven: HHH, Undertaker, the Dudleys, Jericho, Kane, and the Big Show. Plus The Rock has come back to wrestle a handful of times over the past few years, and Shane McMahon is coming back for Mania this year. And a few more are still around in non-wrestling roles: Bradshaw, E&C, Regal, and Albert.

Meanwhile, the roster overlap between WM17 and WM2, fifteen years further back, is literally zero.

JRN, Sunday, 20 March 2016 03:42 (eight years ago) link

got bored of trying to smash through an entire series of Lucha Underground so skipped right on to Ultima Lucha

yikes

how much did you miss? UL was great but not better than grave consequences, all night long, the trios tourney. and maybe aztec warfare if you didn't get that far. and the build to pentagon/vampiro! that's so much to miss. lol i literally immediately rewatched the entire series before UL, which took a while but it didn't get any less exciting. the only time it lagged was the build to UL, because it was a build, and all weekly wrestling shows are probably a lot better when there aren't any PPV builds.

but until that point (last 6-7 episodes before UL) i'd totally fallen in love with the show and couldn't stop thinking "holy shit how does this keep getting better". i'm jealous of people who haven't seen the whole thing straight through.

i know i should want everyone to watch S2 and spread the word and i know it's still Just Wrestling but it's one of those things where i can't possibly suggest skipping around. i'm not comparing it to hbo/amc shows (it is way better!) but i will respond like every loserdork dude when they hear someone just started GoT at season 14. like how dare you skip that one shot of bengala licking himself clean. how dare you.

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link

that said i haven't seen the last uh SIX episodes because now i'm watching it with my partner and it's so fucking easy to get behind when you're watching with someone else

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 04:10 (eight years ago) link

It's interesting to look back at WM17 just to see how many people from that show are still active on the roster (i.e. wrestling several times per yer). I count seven: HHH, Undertaker, the Dudleys, Jericho, Kane, and the Big Show. Plus The Rock has come back to wrestle a handful of times over the past few years, and Shane McMahon is coming back for Mania this year. And a few more are still around in non-wrestling roles: Bradshaw, E&C, Regal, and Albert.

Meanwhile, the roster overlap between WM17 and WM2, fifteen years further back, is literally zero.

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the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 March 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

ok lol i looked it up and really didnt expect the answer to be 1 person nikolai volkoff

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 March 2016 05:17 (eight years ago) link

Wowzer, apologies for drunken over-enthusiasm earlier this morning but what can you do?

yikes

how much did you miss? UL was great but not better than grave consequences, all night long, the trios tourney. and maybe aztec warfare if you didn't get that far. and the build to pentagon/vampiro! that's so much to miss. lol i literally immediately rewatched the entire series before UL, which took a while but it didn't get any less exciting. the only time it lagged was the build to UL, because it was a build, and all weekly wrestling shows are probably a lot better when there aren't any PPV builds.

but until that point (last 6-7 episodes before UL) i'd totally fallen in love with the show and couldn't stop thinking "holy shit how does this keep getting better". i'm jealous of people who haven't seen the whole thing straight through.

i know i should want everyone to watch S2 and spread the word and i know it's still Just Wrestling but it's one of those things where i can't possibly suggest skipping around. i'm not comparing it to hbo/amc shows (it is way better!) but i will respond like every loserdork dude when they hear someone just started GoT at season 14. like how dare you skip that one shot of bengala licking himself clean. how dare you.

yeah i get this and I didn't express myself very well at all when i posted this morning (what a surprise!). it's definitely not that i was bored with the show that made me decide to jump ahead. i probably jumped about 12 episodes or so, a bunch of which I actually saw at the time of broadcast but without much of a frame of reference (Grave Consequences I saw when it aired without any prior knowledge of the competitors, for instance).

thing is, much as i might enjoy having loads of stuff to watch all lined up for me, it just doesn't compare to "live" or "fresh" stuff or whatever that i get to watch completely blind at the point of broadcast. i spoilered Ultima Lucha for myself such a long time ago that I've known when Season 1 has been headed the whole time.

i just wanna watch this amazing wrestling show develop on a week-to-week basis as the shows are broadcast rather than letting them build up again to the point where it becomes this thing i've gotta sit down and do all over again. i'll probably go back and fill-in some of the episodes i missed at some point, but right now i feel like i'm missing out by not following season 2 as it airs.

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:56 (eight years ago) link

eurgh that was supposed to be a quote, not italics

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 10:56 (eight years ago) link

All these posts made me go back, as i'd also kinda stopped watching season 1 and immediately i got drago v aerostar and cage v puma so i was happy as larry. The drago v aerostar match is one where full suspension of disbelief had to happen as they go ten thousands miles a minute and never sell but whatever, it was fun.

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:06 (eight years ago) link

Lucha Underground is one of the few wrestling shows where it's OK to be a bit behind what's 'fresh' because it's so self-contained. The closest comparison in 'conventional' pro wrestling is maybe CHIKARA with their season format.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

i know what you mean but i still prefer to be up to date with it, reduces the risk of accidental and minor spoilers from some of the websites i read. once you're caught up with a show the new episodes start feeling like a treat each week in a way that just doesn't happen for me when i've got them all queued up.

suicide commando, Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

Oh NEVER EVER READ LU WIKIS. I wanted to look up Rey Rey last week and i got burnt.

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 March 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, WMX7 is amazing. What's weird is that it was the peak of the Attitude era but also its "jump the shark" moment -- and both were evident at the time. You have a stacked card, killer payoffs to all the big storylines, and a huge main event that delivered and then some. You also have the Rock's career as a full time wrestler coming to an end (after RAW the next night he was off to film a movie for the next three months), Austin's WTF were they thinking heel turn (in Texas???), and the WCW C-team watching the show from the nosebleeds in a prelude to the botched WCW invasion.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 20 March 2016 14:19 (eight years ago) link

ok wtf the network just auto unsubscribed me? ugh

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link

apparently it can't handle changing cc info so it just cancels your account

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

anyway i discovered the greatest taker promo of all time

https://40.media.tumblr.com/30185813c9277736dce2d3a7bf3f5cad/tumblr_o4brmewujE1qzb8z0o1_540.png

qualx, Sunday, 20 March 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

Not bothered watching Raw this week, but I saw the news about the IC title ladder match at Mania, which is basically Money in the Bank with the belt instead of the briefcase, which is fine by me.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

idk, past time they abandoned thhe multi-man ladder match imo, money in the bank or otherwise. about a decade past time.

suicide commando, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Yeah considering zayn-owens was their chance at a legit 5 star amazing match also *mania moment* its a load of shite. Even if it was a ladder match, those steen-genrico ladder matches were insane.

Otoh well done zach ryder, you'll finally be in a mania match 6 years too late.

the internet's most cossetted petulant manbaby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Calm down peeps, this is WWE we're talking about! Things haven't got quite desperate enough for them to give what the IWC says they want.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

just read the recap for raw, boy am i glad there's a reason they stuck sin cara and ryder in that match... when i saw the booking w/o context i was like "holy shit, just how many people ARE injured?"

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I guess they wanted a car crash opening match like ... the exact same IC title ladder match they had last year. At least the champion isn't a lame duck this time. I still don't get they didn't do a fatal four way with Owens, Zayn, Miz, and Ziggler. Aren't there enough gimmick matches on the card already?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

i know it's the equivalent of saying "i' watching the super bowl for the commercials" but at this point i think i am watching wrestlemania for the entrances

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

aare there any arnold movies coming out this year for hhh to ape in his entrance?

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Oh man, I hadn't even thought to get excited for HHH's entrance this year. His last two were fantastic.

JRN, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

kinda hoping that kalisto comes to the ring riding a flying dragon and ryback comes out with tank treads stapled to each of his legs

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah tbf no matter what's happening on the card it's impossible not to be at least a little bit excited about the pageantry. Full brass band to provide musical accompaniment during the New Day match! or can someone at least dig out a couple of Naitch's old robes for him Charlotte to wear to the ring? Provided he didn't sell them all on eBay in 2010 or whatever.

Raw wasn't up to much last night but it was so good seeing the Funker on WWE tv again! Cautiously optimistic for the Ambrose / Lesnar match following the Funk / Foley appearances, though I still think they need to do something special to establish Ambrose as a truly dangerous lunatic rather than just a kooky am-dram oddball. really get some hype behind him heading into the match. The old Roddy Piper "beer bottle over the head" spot or similar would serve. like, if you ever needed lessons in how to convince a bunch of slack-jawed rassle-fan boobs that you were a legit crazy man....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzvNPq_5P2g

may the lord bless thee and keep thee, Hot Rod, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!

suicide commando, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

i like how 3/7 of the IC ladder match were literally introduced as a joke

qualx, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 05:11 (eight years ago) link

i guess you could handwave it as owens is a heel so he was just fucking with the real ("real") competitors but really it just came off as lol these guys suck

qualx, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

that said i would almost be into one of them winning over anyone else in that match (don't want ziggler/miz to win because zzzzzzz, kinda don't want don't want owens/zayn to win so they can feud without the belt)

thing is it can't be ryder because he's working nxt and it can't be sin cara because seriously are the lucha dragons going to hold the us and inter? but... fuck that leaves stardust. make the cody rhodes face turn now and give him the belt? idk wrestlemania is stupid

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

^ as if that's the only reason it sohudn't be sin cara lol

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link


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