Yeah Cook's Illustrated does that in their classic "American" potato salad recipe too. Sprinkle the white vinegar on before the other ingredients. They also recommend using Russet potatoes bc they apparently absorb flavors better/have more internal faultlines for the salted water & vinegar to get into.
In either case, hot potatoes soak that vinegar right up!
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 1 July 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
I love all mustards. THey all have a purpose.
― Yerac, Monday, 1 July 2019 21:47 (five years ago) link
discovered a local bakery that makes these amazing everything pretzels. feel like i ought to get some plain yella just to get to pretz heaven
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Monday, 1 July 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link
finally warm here so it's time to fire up the grill. mark bittman's chicken thighs are always a favorite: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/06/mark-bittmans-grilled-mediterranean-chicken-thighs-recipe.html
you can do anything you want with the flavors, but the core technique of 5 mins skin up cool side, 20 mins skin down cool side, 5 minutes skin down hot side is incredibly effective. i do this on a gas grill with a smoker box on the hot side and the results would make you think i have a much more impressive setup.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
I've been making my own lime pickle and now it's in individual jars and ready to eat. I also have a big jar that will now only be any good for making more lime pickle in, so it's just as well I'm going to start a new batch almost straight away because it's so good.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:45 (five years ago) link
Recipe, pls? I have never made a lime pickle.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:17 (five years ago) link
https://www.fermentationrecipes.com/indian-lime-pickle/500
I made this one because I'm quite happy with letting things ferment and break down that way - there are lots of others I'd seen that involves cooking the limes which just seems less authentic somehow.
NB Mustard oil is technically not food safe under EU regs because of erucic acid content. Despite this it's still pretty widely available - and Morrisons appear to do one specifically labelled as 'edible'.
Mine had 5 weeks initial ferment then 2 fully mixed and it needed both those later weeks for the oil to lose its harshness/combine flavours. I still think next time I might 50/50 it with mustard oil and olive oil.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:49 (five years ago) link
I have been trying to copy Pathak's lime pickle, since we apparently can't get it here any more at the 2 Indian grocers I can get to.
This was my first attempt:7 limes, cut into 8 pieces each1 tsp black saltbunch of kosher salt <- just winging it here!mix in non-reactive bowl, put into glass jarleave for 3-4 days, mixing a couple times a day
toast and grind:2 teaspoons cumin 1 tsp fenugreek1/2 tsp nigella
heat 2 tablespoons vegetable oil over medium heat, then add1 tablespoon mustard seeds pinch asafoetida 1 teaspoon dried coriander ½ teaspoon chilli powder <- this was from the Indian shop½ teaspoon ground turmeric and cumin, fenugreek, and nigella from above
After the mustard seeds begin to pop (about 30 seconds), add the limes 2 tablespoons water 1 tablespoon white vinegar1 tablespoon brown sugar
Bring the mixture to a boil, reduce the heat and let simmer for 10 minutes, stirring occasionally.
Take the mixture off the heat and let cool slightly. Spoon lime pickle into small, sterilized jars. Seal the jars and let the mixture sit in the refrigerator at least overnight, or up to 4 days before serving. If properly sealed and sterilized, lime pickle can last in the fridge for several months, if not longer.
I will add more brown sugar next time, and also make a smaller quantity more frequently. It has gotten more pungent since I made it last October.
I have had some success replicating Pathak's garlic pickle:about .25 cup veg oil50 grams garlic, sliced and slivered25 grams raisins, chopped25 grams dates, chopped1 tsp turmeric
1 tsp fenugreek roasted, ground1 tsp dried onion (not fried shallots)1 tsp cumin roasted, ground1 tsp coriander, roasted (already ground)1 tsp powdered mustardpinch of hingpinch of cinnamon pinch ground cloves 3 big pinches of kosher salt (Morton's).5 tsp crushed dried red pepper1 tsp ginger paste
1 heaping tbsp brown sugar1 tbsp cider vinegar
heat veg oil on low, add garlic, turmeric, raisins, dates, barely simmer until soft, about 30 minutes.
add spices, continue to simmer
take off heat, add sugar, vinegar. Allow to cool, spoon into sterilized jars.
― Das Leben ist klein Ponyhof (doo dah), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:54 (five years ago) link
That garlic one looks good.
I should also say the 'cut into 8' leaves them a bit big for my taste - each 1/8th wedge can easily get cut into 3 or 4.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I will definitely cut them much smaller next time. The limes were kind of big this time, too.
― Das Leben ist klein Ponyhof (doo dah), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link
i got 10 pickling cucumbers (i hate the word "cukes" i'm sorry) from farmers' market this am. they were too fat to fit into my jars whole so i am fermenting a half gallon of spears and a quart of slices. also making fridge pickles with a quart + a pint of spears. "we'll see what happens."
― forensic plumber (harbl), Sunday, 14 July 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link
yum! i've done this very lazily before by halving cukes and sticking them in empty pickle jars that still had juice. the liquid is totally reusable 2-3 times i found
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link
that's a good idea! no pickle juice wasted
― forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
How long in the pickle juice before they are pickled?
― nickn, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link
well, i was just going to say, i tried a fridge pickle just now after it had been in the liquid for 24 hours. the recipe i used said to wait that long. it's a good, solid pickle. i'll see what it's like in the next few days. i used this recipe https://www.aspicyperspective.com/best-homemade-refrigerator-pickles/ skipped the onion out of laziness
― forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link
also used white vinegar instead of apple cider
― forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link
i'd like to try this one, too. much longer process though https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2017/08/milwaukee-dill-pickles-cucmber-recipe.html
― forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 July 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
Thanks, I may try it when my current store-bought jar runs out.
― nickn, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link
this is literally what i wrote down from book (it's quite simple but the flavors REALLY married after about 24 hours and was the best beans i've ever made iirc):Simple Beans1# Black or pintos – cook. Separately carmelize large onion (i cut into thin half-moons), adding t oreg., t cumin, habanero, liquid smoke to finish― form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:45 (six months ago)
― form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:45 (six months ago)
I finally got liquid smoke and am going to make this tomorrow. IT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND.
― Yerac, Saturday, 20 July 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link
got the Zahav book. Making hummus, pita, israeli salad, and twice cooked eggplant salad for dinner. Hope those bad boys inflate correctly.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 20 July 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
How are you doing the pita? I really need to delve into eggplant one day. I love it, but I know most people don't.
Poké tonight but we do poké most saturdays. Saturdays suppers are that or thai noodles or scarpetta spaghetti without fail I realized.
― Yerac, Saturday, 20 July 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
the pita was a pretty easy dough recipe. It has sugar and a fair amount of yeast. You do a long rise, form little boules, second rise, flatten, and put on pizza stone at 500C. They inflate like balloons and are done in 3 minutes.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 July 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link
The Zahav hummus is v good, but the secret has been out for awhile. Think I've made a copy from the internet before. I kinda messed up the eggplant by leaving the skins on the disks and cutting too thin. I ended up blending it all with tahini sauce as a second dip, which everyone liked better than the hummus.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 July 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link
Do you use the soom tahini?
― Yerac, Sunday, 21 July 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
used a different achdut brand, pepperwood
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 July 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
I made the tahini sauce ahead of time and added ice water until it looked like the picture. But it thickened in the fridge. the ending hummus was prbly stiffer than I wanted. Would try to make it all same day in the future.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 July 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link
i usually just leave tahini sauce out @ room temp. when it's earmarked for same day use. have never thought abt making pita before. that all sounds freaking lovely!japanese eggplants are in the local farmers market so i made some stoopid eggplant pizza the other day that was (nearly) overloaded w/aubergine. also love that they cook in ~5 minutes in a cast iron and don't need salting.
hey, let us know how you like that smokey bean recipe, Yerac. made it a second time and wasn't convinced that i loved it as much as the first time. no idea why that would be the casexxposts
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 July 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
Hmmm I was wondering if getting the soom tahini is worth it.
Yeah I will report back. Maybe I will just do one can of black beans first to test it out.
― Yerac, Sunday, 21 July 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
made more pita, this time from a hot bread kitchen recipe. this was half wheat flour, which is different and good. Learned that one should flip the the pita at 2 minutes for maximum inflation. These have perfect pockets. Also listened to Southern Accents while baking. When petty said "hey spike, whaddaya like?" I said "pita" but very softly so nobody else would hear me. I think it helped.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 July 2019 02:48 (five years ago) link
Our garden is yielding cucumbers by the armful so I made tzatziki and refrigerator pickles this weekend! Will open pickles when I get home tonight and report back on results. All have dill seeds, dill flowers & greens, and garlic. Some have onion, some have red pepper flakes. If they turn out, I see a lot of vinegar usage in my future.
Any fave recipes for pickling? Actually wait lemme search thread.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link
Nm I found harbl's! Looks good--I did close to that but didn't have mustard seeds. Will try next time.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link
Next door neighbor surprised me the other day saying she has ghost pepper, habanero, and Thai chile plants! Am hoping to get armfuls!
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
A little late, but that Zahav hummus recipe was a game changer. Every other recipe I'd seen involved just blending everything together at once, whereas Zahav explains the tahini sauce and reasoning behind very, very well.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 22 July 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
yes, the book is great. and the base hummus is as good as any I've made. I think there is a limit to the enjoyment I derive from the basic hummus, though. I want to try the dressed up versions and the turkish hummus that uses butter instead of tehina. separating the tehina sauce and using it everywhere is a very useful idea. the nearby grocery outlet keeps stocking jars of fancy tehini at good prices, so I think I'll run through that whole first chapter, including the shortbread.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 July 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
really want to make that persian rice, too. we had a roommate that tried to make it many times with mixed results. it must be good, though, if she tried for so long.
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 July 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link
I don't typically like rice dishes but I looooove persian rice. In college I would go to my persian roommate's home a lot and her parents knew to have persian rice with chicken ready for me. I think I have mentioned how our regular snack there was feta and grapes on pita. So good.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
I want to try the dressed up versions and the turkish hummus that uses butter instead of tehina. separating the tehina sauce and using it everywhere is a very useful idea.
I’ve done the hummus with the lamb on top, which is great if you eat meat. Also, the one with the whole cooked chickpeas on top is a nice change and adds texture.
The tehina sauce is great on just about anything. You can dress just about any raw or cooked vegetables with it and they will rule.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link
the ottolenghi meatballs in tahini are incredible
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 07:51 (five years ago) link
I made those beans, outdoor miner. They were delicious but supposedly intense (I am a bit congested so I may have seasoned it to extremes). I made some alterations, I used a big spoonful of chipotles instead of habanero, and also added some balsamic and garlic. Ate it with brown rice, avocado, cilantro and watercress. Would definitely make again.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link
Chipotles and liquid smoke? That seems intense. Am not a Yucatecan but i like the chile choice. Mmm water cress is underrated imo. I think it's gonna be too effing hot to do much cooking for the next few months here in my apt. And next door neighbor with outdoor pizza oven is moving soon. Think I'll be well tired of salads, sandwiches, and gazpacho by October
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
I did't know how much liquid smoke to add since I have never used it so only added like a teaspoon? to 2 cans of black beans. There are no habaneros where I am so found a good can of chipotles instead that I am very happy I know I can get now. I figured since it was going on rice and not in a burrito it could be a little extreme. They sell a lot of berros/watercress here and it fills my desire for mache lettuce (which I can't get here).
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link
I have to figure out what to do with the rest of these chipotles though. Maybe with salmon? Could mix a little in with a batch of hummus.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
a teaspoon is a lot of liquid smoke. that stuff is powerful.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
I thought about just doing a couple of drops but figured they would've designed the bottle differently if that was what was supposed to happen. Next time I will know. I liked the way it smelled.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link
Was gonna say. I'd go with something like 8 drops for two cans. Guessing the bottle you have has no dropper dispensing top. I usu just puree chipotles upon opening. Either way they freeze well or can last *at least* a month in fridge. I useda make a really nice roasted warm potato salad that had a chipotle-lime dressing. I think you said you spend time in Chile? I wonder if it is potato-land there in the way I imagine Peru to be.
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
I'm in chile right now. Which is why the hot pepper situation is dire. I had to bring the liquid smoke here. eh, I probably used about 8 drops, I kind of just eyeballed what I poured in.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link
I assumed the chipotles wouldn't be hot either so ate a spoonful straight out of the can to test. They were hot!
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
https://www.pepperscale.com/chipotle-vs-jalapeno/
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link
I remember tracer had that ^^^ fact on the 'things I just learned thread' which I hadn't known at the time because I never buy chipotles so never considered the flavor. They just started having fresh jalapenos in the grocery store here and they are kind of hit or miss within the spicy range. But I guess that is true with any hot pepper. I always have to taste a little first because some end up being really mild and then something (like a banana pepper) will be shockingly spicier than expected. I have some dry ghost peppers in a grinder thing that I got at Trader Joes that I haven't opened yet.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link
yeah, tasting is always a good idea
― Cecil replies to your e-mails (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link