FIFA 2010

Amazon got it to me yesterday and are refunding me the £10 they'd reduced the price by since shipping it, impressed (although they probably would have remained my lazy default option for everything anyway)

anyone plumping for the live season thing?

lol at kris boyd and aiden mcgeady being £14mil in my MM

I haven't got my own copy of this yet, but from what I've played the two things I've heard most have been The Lebanon and "Tevez, with his bulldog like approach"

This game is basically broken at the moment, right?

Bugs aside, it's basically a souped up PES5 in that it's terrifyingly hard to avoid being tackled and the computer gets wanky free kicks on the edge of the box that it always scores.

It's good but it makes me angry.

It's also PES-like in that it introduces the unloved concept of having your players' "form" randomly go to shit regardless of how many hat tricks they've scored recently

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-10-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/697121-manager-mode-questions-answers-178.html#post11539748

This is forehead slapping stuff.

If you loan players out, the team you loan them out to sells them.

Gotta say I do like the idea of Barnsley craftily flogging Scott Sinclair on for £10 million and nobody noticing though.

lol I just started a manager game last night but now i'm a bit frightened really.

i have noticed some other weird stuff, like for example you can't check post-game stats on subbed players. anyone knows how much of these things they will be able to correct with updates, how did it work on 09?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVEfk1GpM4

This game was the dog's wotsits till I ordered it, now it's turned into a bug ridden bunch of arse :(

Not really giving a shit about bugs in management mode though, there are proper buggy management sims for that.

The actual game of football it plays is fantastic, aside from:

a) the computer scoring 90% of its free kicks and hitting the post with the other 10%
b) Keepers rushing out of their six yard box screaming "lob me! loooob meeeeee!" when a striker gets anywhere near the penalty area

They both seem fairly patchable, but the list of things that are annoyingly wrong with the manager mode seems a lot longer than EA are gonna bother to fix - some dude got fired from the Sunderland job for losing to Arsenal in the league cup because he "should have beaten a lower league team", and people are buying players and then having them sign for other teams on a free transfer two weeks later.

Cozwn - you've played the clubs bit, right? Is it as monged as people are saying?

uh hoh
havent really played it seriously yet

hi dere
http://easw.easports.com:8096/avatar/15473889/avatar2_PAFim_210x210.png

Fuck this game

The constant rain in every match is depressing me and just thinking about all the stuff that's insanely, unplayably wrong with the manager mode sends me into the kind of rage I normally reserve for estate agents

Also fuck reviewers saying "the first four seasons of manager mode I played for the review didn't have any bugs! I guess EA were just lucky, or else I would have crushed them with my hefty journalistic integrity! I only wish I knew now what I knew then!"

then <----> now

I feel the very same way

so disillusioned that unless they patch the utter shit out of it, I'm considering picking up a cheap copy of PES

also it is impossible to score from crosses and defending in multiplayer is just jamming the a-button down all day long

I have switched to all manual and dynamic cam which has renewed my interest a bit; I still think it is great, amazing, all that but the bugs are bugging the shit out of me

Yeah, what was wrong with the outfield play on the demo build? The tackling seemed OK on that and you could score a one on one without playing a fucking one-two with the keeper

idiots

somewhere, Roberto Spiralli is chuckling quietly

I must say I don't understand the hatin' toward this game at all. so far I find it amazing. Maybe I'll find out some terrible stuff later on...

It is partially sort of not getting properly into the game because of all the stuff I know to be wrong with it from reading elsewhere

The only major manager mode problems I've had in the ten games I've played have been constant gloomy weather and goalkeepers getting credited with all the assists. I think. I didn't try to sign any players because y'know, there's already been a full real world transfer window at the start of that season

Also the only time I tried to play online it crashed my XBOX

PES 2010 demo plays like a piece of shit tbh. was almost ready to buy FIFA until fans started slamming it. we are all fucked. i'm going back to Gazza's Super Soccer. see y'all round.

I went back to play PES5 but I'm shit at it now, so I'll persevere w/FIFA. we shd play, mpx4a. you tried manual yet? I guess I cd just set the game to manual controls and just have you deal

I will try manual controls tonight, but when I tried them in the arena on the demo I literally couldn't score a goal

no real bugs so far except for excessively bold goalies - but yes the crosses are kinda shit in this version

Does this manual control thing mean I'm not, by default, controlling it manually?

Scored a couple of goals from crosses on noob level but I feel as if I've got no idea where a cross will land. Keepers doing too well in one-on-ones but I suppose that leads to fewer stupid scorelines.

I'm currently playing as Celtic and putting everything through the middle because the wing play is piss - so realistic :)
Just had 22 shots to Hibs' 3 and lost 2-1 lol

Favourite bit of commentary so far was Tyler and Gray being astonished that St Mirren were subbing Mo Camara on - giving it "What is the manager thinking?"

i don't get the sudden hate on this either. haven't delved that deep into manager mode yet, though i've been playing be a pro season which is kind of stupid but still addictive. most of all i've been playing this offline multiplayer and there it really delivers. of course then all you have to worry about is the actual gameplay which i guess we all agree is pretty amazing? haven't tried this out on live yet cuz i still kinda suck tbh

play me! I suck too!!!

Just getting around to downloading the demo now, the game doesn't come out in the US for a few more days. They're having the nat'l launch here in Chicago, though... Blanco will be on-hand for a FIFA tournament at Best Buy downtown (how's that for product/sponsor/superstar tie-ins) and the winner will get some kind of ginormous television.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/new-fifa-10-patch-this-week-ea-keen-to-address-remaining-issues

oh my, loooooooooooooool
http://www.videogameszone.de//screenshots/811x455/2009/10/PES_2010_Manchester_City_027_.jpg

PES10 Demo is some ancient draft of it. Guardian was claiming PES10 is better in terms of gameplay. I have Fifa now, got it free from work, but not played it yet.

played today...it's fucking hard. have hardly had a shot on target. let me know if anyone fancies a game, I'm localgarda on live...

I added you.

I've shunted it down to professional difficulty and stuck everything on semi-assisted except for manual crossing. It doesn't seem that much different, underhit passes aside; I guess the jump to full manual is the real gulf.

The headed set piece goals in this tend to look very good, when you manage to actually get one.

I've played fifa some more this week-end, at international level, and I don't see the problem with scoring on crosses. of course it doesn't work everytime (and thank god !) but I've scored some pretty cool goals (headers or volleys).

I can't score from crosses at all : / but I'm enjoying the game much more now I've switched short passing and crossing back up to semi, with everything else on manual

anyone else tried dynamic at full height and zoomed right out? the only way to play singleplayer imo; I only ever used to play with the wide camera in PES or the tele cam at full height and zoom in FIFA 09 but dynamic is great, u really get to appreciate all the little animation touches.

oh yeah ? I haven't really tried other cameras yet. the dynamic is the one for the be a pro mode, right ?

Birmingham 3 - 0 Arsenal.

^just needed to tell the world, tbh.

I think pro mode is pro camera, which I hate. the frame rate is really low on that one. I use tele for that mode because dynamic is too zoomed in for tht mode imo

single player manager mode I use dynamic all the way

hum. I'll have a look at that...
the "normal" cam is alright, though.

yeah, it is good def; I just think the game looks better on dynamic. I thought PES2010 was a better looking game till I made the switch, now I'm not so sure

EVERYONE PUT YOUR CROSSING TO SEMI I CAN'T STOP SCORING HEADED GOALS NOW

what are the differences btw the different settings?

manual is full manual: you control the direction and power of passes, shots, crosses, long passes and through balls.

semi is somewhere in-between. assisted the computer is basically playing the game for you and you're a grotesque ugly manbaby

patch details btw
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ea-sports-fifa-discussion/370009-list-changes-next-patch.html

so I've tried the dynamic cam.
it does look better since you can see the players very well and it's more intense and more individual but you lose the more strategic approach since you only see a very small part of the pitch.
I'm not sure which cam I prefer...

some of the text is infuriatingly small, kills my eyes.

so semi is the way to go cozen? I just played somebody with athletico and had about 30 shots on goal, should have win about 12-4 but lost 4-0. i was missing the most easy chances.

it's enjoyable alright but some things still v irritating eg the corners, they look and feel shit. nice passing moves tho, it's a good game for counter attacks.

another irritant is how hard it is to clear your lines, it seems whoever is on the attack is massively at an advantage all the time, as defenders keep passing the ball to stray returning attackers over and over.

i know. never, never try to pass when in your own penalty area.

just press shoot to clear your lines, unless you have enough space to charge up a long pass

I have all manual, w/semi on short pass and crossing; play around to find what fits u best obv :)

http://fifa.easports.com/earth