THUG was sort of supposed to be like a revolution for the series, it was the first non-"pro skater" and instead there was like an actual story. It was a pretty stupid story to be fair, but there was something to it and I think it's different enough from THPS3 to warrant its own nom.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Some people are talking abt a 6-gen battle royale for best game (DC and PS2 and GC and XBOX) so that games like Rez and Killer7 can get their dues. I am still okay with this even though this thread is started-- Would you all prefer this stay PS2-only? The problem, I think, with opening it up is that we already have so few voters vs. the number of games that the more we open it up the more it's going to be 42-WAY TIE FOR 99TH!
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
if we're going to poll the last generation, I think we could probably just do polls for the PS2, Dreamcast, GBA, and then a catch-all one "Everything Else", and then do a final poll for the whole generation based on the top 20 results from each of those.
not that that wouldn't be a shitton of work but hey.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Did anybody ever play that shitty-lookin' Warriors game they put out on XBLA? I'm sorely tempted even today, remembering how much I loved that game. Oh! So violent! So visceral! So satisfying!
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I don't know about anybody else but I like the fact that there's going to be some consensus this time-- especially since realistically there's not going to be a lot of hidden gem seeky-outage stemming from this poll. I think as well that you should be able to vote for a cross-platform game that you consider in your nerdy mind has its definitive iteration on another same-gen console. You should NOT be allowed to vote for a game ported down from the next gen just bc you like it a lot, though.
ps i loved the fuck out of some of the tony hawk games on this console but I can't remember which now, and they've been effaced by subsequent suckage... maybe it was THPS4?
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i used to watch my mate play the one with the bull ring, for hours it might've been on the dreamcast though.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought those were called cock rings
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost that was THPS2, still my favorite entry in the series. I remember 3 being pretty good but I never even got around to finishing it, whereas I 100% beat 2 on both PC and DC.
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
3 was the first THPS I played, and I seem to be alone in thinking that 4 was an improvement on 3.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?
― antexit, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I think that was the one after 4.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Everybody's Golf 4 aka Hot Shots Golf Fore!
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
^I'm sure no one will vote for this but so, so addictive.
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
This is gonna be good and i may be able to help on the final poll.
NBA Street 2Kingdom Hearts and KH 2OnimushaTwisted Metal Black
... drawing a blank; will add more as i think of them.God, this poll made me break out my old games folder. So many dreamcast discs. Why did i ever get rid of that console.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, Forks, a year or two ago you managed to get some pretty awesome non-ilx folx voting (mitch k, for instance)-- did you mail them and ask them to contribute? Or did they find it somewhere else or are they secret lurkers?
I contacted them. Just pick out yer fave eukyarotes and email em!
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Do we have to have all the different versions of games like MGS3 or can we all agree that Subsistence is the best one?
― antexit, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I dare not open up my old games cabinet, I'd just end up dusting of the DC and playing Toy Commander all night.
oh go on then
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to combine votes for MGS3 and Subsistence, I only played the former but assume I would have loved the latter jsut as much. They're not really different games, one's just an improvement of the other really
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link
can i request a "list thus far" in the thread, plz?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
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That was THUG2. THUG1 was slightly better ubt very full of non-skating things to do (in the bad way).
xpost list coming in under 2 mins. Just making sure I have no doubles.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Ape Escape 2Ape Escape 3Beyond Good & EvilBreath Of Fire: Dragon QuarterBullyBurnout RevengeCapcom vs SNK 2Contra: Shattered Soldierdark cloud 2Def Jam Fight For NYDef Jam VendettaDisgaea: Hour of DarknessDoDonPachi Dai Ou JouDragon Quest VIIIEverybody's Golf 4 / Hot Shots Golf ForeFahrenheit / Indigo ProphecyFinal Fantasy XFinal Fantasy XIIFire Pro Wrestling ReturnsGod HandGod of WarGod of War IIGradius VGran Turismo 3Gran Turismo 4Grand Theft Auto: San AndreasGrand Theft Auto: Vice CityGrimGrimoireGrowlanser V: Generations Guitar Hero 2Half-LifeHulk: Ultimate DestructionIcoJak and DaxterKatamari DamacyKiller7Kingdom HeartsKingdom Hearts 2Klonoa 2: Lunatea's VeilLego Star Wars II: The Original TrilogyLord Of The Rings: Return Of The KingMadden 08ManhuntMarvel vs. Capcom 2Mega Man Anniversary CollectionMercenaries: Playground of DestructionMetal Gear Solid 2/ MGS2 SubstanceMetal Gear Solid 3/ MGS3 SusbistenceMicro Machines V4NBA StreetNBA Street 2NHL Hitz ProOdin SphereOkamiOnimushaOutrun 2006 Coast2CoastPersona 3Persona 4Prince of Persia - Sands of TimePro Evolution Soccer 2005PsychonautsRatchet & ClankRatchet & Clank: Going CommandoRE2 (?)Resident Evil 4Resident Evil Code: Veronica XRing of RedRogue GalaxyR-Type FinalShadow HeartsShadow of the ColossusSilent Hill 2SingstarSly 2: Band Of ThievesShin Megami Tensei III: NocturneShin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil SagaShin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2SOS: The Final EscapeSoulCalibur IISpider-Man 2SSX SSX TrickyStar Ocean: Til The End Of TimeStreet Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)StuntmanSuikoden IIISuikoden VTekken 4Tekken 5Tekken Tag TournamentThe WarriorsTony Hawk Pro Skater 3Tony Hawk UndergroundTransformersTwisted Metal BlackValkyrie Profile 2: SilmeriaViewtiful JoeVirtua Fighter 4: EvolutionWe Love KatamariWip3outWorms 3DYakuza 2Zone Of The Enders 2: 2nd Runner
That's 103 entries.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
notes: RE2 and Wip3out are PS1 titles, if the original nominators meant something else let me know or I will cut them (RE4 was PS2, and some other RE titles; Wipeout Fusion and Pulse were PS2, but not W3).
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
0 story (2000) ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007) atelier iris: eternal mama (2004)bombastic (2003)ddrmax dance dance revolution (2002) devil may cry 3: dante's awakening (2005) la pucelle tactics (2002) maximo: ghosts to glory (2001)ring of red (2000) xenosaga (2002)
probably need more sports games? only sports game i really play is madden tho + i guess its hard 2 nominate 1 specific year/game? mb it makes sense just to nom series?
also also imo digital devil saga 1/2 is basic the same game for voting purposes
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Xenogears I/II/IIITaiko Drum MasterStretch PanicPaRappa 2Max PayneMister MosquitoThe Mark of KriGrandia IIGet on Da Mic (I have some good stories on this one)Fatal FrameFF X-2Dance Dance Revolution: DDRMAX
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
good catch on maximo
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess? I'm not necessarily repping everything I'm nomming as top fifty even, but we might as well have an extensive working list.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link
hey I was serious about State of Emergency!
The other PS2 game I watched a fair bit of, though never played much of, was Smuggler's Run. I'll nom that too?
haha evidently these were both Rockstar games...had no idea
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
lamp read the OP u big loser
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link
also you forgot mana khemia
― a passing heavy daftie (cozen), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link
um wtf u h8ful jerk u no i cant read
― F → F−F++F−F (Lamp), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link
AmplitudeCrazy TaxiDevil May CryESPN NFL 2K5FrequencyMedal of Honor: FrontlineRezStreet Fighter EX3Tom Clancy's Splinter CellMLB The Show 2006Madden 2002
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link
omg thank you for nba street 2. so so so so so addictive.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link
and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess?
don't bother, even i'm not gonna vote for that sack o' crap.
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Sorry I missed that one-- I may have missed some others that were not in handy list format due to my hasty excel copying, let me know if you see anything missing everyone!
ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007)
"metalfalica" sounds like it is about a great steel dick
I will combine these two, as iirc they are pretty much continuations-- I'll also do tihs for Xenosaga, any other recommendations peopel for games that shjould be lumped together? Obv not GTA or MGS, but maybe Madden 2002 and 2008?
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
possible lumps together:- god of war 1 & 2 (leaning no on this one)- gran turismo 3 & 4 (also leaning no)
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, it totally posted for me before i was ready.- kingdom hearts 1 & 2 (never played them, no idea)- lego star wars 1 & 2, if anyone even noms 1- nba street 1 & 2- ssx & ssx tricky (again, never played, so i dunno if they're reskins or actually quite different games)
xenosagas, digital devil sagas, and MGSes with their remakes (substance/subsistence) are already lumped together.
― Paradise can't mean straddling felled treetrunks in dentalfloss thongs (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i say: do not lump the god of war games together.
― abanana, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
miss the point that clubs are best-placed to decide what debt they take on
don't matter, i'll just vote for whichever makes it on to the poll, it'd be easier.
i aim to have a ps2 or 3 ONLINE (for the first time) in the next 6 months btw, and will be looking for beatches to school. fair warning.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
GOW II is much better than I, they're very diff games.same for street, ssx, kh. Dunno about the rest.forgot about amplitude; good catch.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
My understanding was that SSX Tricky was way better than the first SSX, just like NBA Street 1 vs. 2. SSX3/SSX On Tour were also considered different degrees of quality, though I didn't play them. Personally I would go with Tricky.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Mr. Cobo -- can I send you the latest list of nominated games for PS2 and have you out them up on the blog? I want to start sending the blog link to people instead of this thread, as I'm expecting to do some pretty serious flogging of the poll tonight. magacid at gmail if you want to hit me there, and I can forward you the list so far!
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
holla
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
playing san andreas right now, on completion you get infinite ammo - and with the mini gun its something of an absolute riot.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, put a call for nominations for this poll up on the blog including the most current version of the ballot. if you want to recruit people but don't want to send them to this thread, here's the link to send them instead:
http://cointandplick.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/coint-plick-ps2-call-for-nominations/
― /no cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Alien HominidDarkwatchEvil Dead: RegenerationMDK2: ArmageddonRed FactionThe Suffering
ugh a bunch more i am not remembering
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Final Ballots will have the following:
- Top 1 to 15 games for the PS2, with optional commentary on why they are the best (a sentence to a paragraph ideal, or a link to something you've previously written about the game in question)
- Biggest disappointment
- Worst game
- Best cover art.
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
any off thread interest?
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Cargo Barge Driver Reloaded - The Canal Diaries
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 27 February 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, I have heard from a few of the people I've emailed, and I wrote myself an email of others I am going to bug. Speaking of which, a couple of nominations I received by email that weren't ITT:
- Burnout 3: Takedown - Yakuza 1
― I'm not fat - I'm a macrogastronomist (Will M.), Monday, 1 March 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link