FIFA 2010

so my brother got me this (on PS2, admittedly, he ain't that much of a pimp) and i tried to play it last night.

The last PES (on PS2, admittedly, I ain't that much of a pimp) is a steaming pile, but this was just fucking horrible. Hateful weightless feel, shots just go at random directions, passes go to random players, camera frequently lags behind the ball and there is slowdown (fucking SLOWDOWN people it's 2010 ffs) at corners/set plays.

Why the fuck can't EA make a decent football game? Why have Konami forgotten how to?

on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly on PS2, admittedly

Is that really all there is to it?

If PES on PS3 is that much of an improvement then I'll be investing in the Summer.

PS2 and PC FIFA are still the same old same old; only PS3 and 360 have the new engine/are developed by david rutter's team

wait, they still make games for ps2???????????

PES on PS3 is just an HD version of the PS2 engine lol

there are still games coming out on PS2 even to this day; also PS2 has only just launched in some markets

crazy

yup, there are still half dece games coming out too; there's some (understandable) overlap betw the wii and the PS2 on current releases

well u have given me hope for the future, and for that i thank you.

srsly PS360 FIFA altho not to everyone's tastes is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS2 FIFA

my eyes ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hKNyb52Hz0

anyway timely bump, the world cup FIFA is out next month

they're almost always shitty ripoff halfway-developed games ime.

i think i'm gonna cop the world cup one if it's anywhere near as good as 10 for ps3

The demo of WC2010 is pretty good, but it's so short it's difficult to get a real handle on it. It's a bit tighter and the goalkeepers aren't morons. Physics of keepers making saves seems a bit more varied. Commentary from Townsend and Tyldsley appropriately infernal but seems to benefit from a less-is-more approach compared to FIFA 2010's misguided ramblings.

It's a risible cash grab obviously, but I'm assuming there'll be hundreds of them available used by the time World Cup Fever is properly gripping mah throat.

ah, yeah, discovered that in the 360 live shop last week end. the thing is, by the time it's in the used bins (july/august), it will be only couple of months until 2011 is released, no ?

I got FIFA10 for $40, sold it last week for $30; had a $20 off coupon I put toward WC2010, as I figured for $40 it'll be enough of a change to tide me over until FIFA11. Based on the demo, it'll be worth it just for the goalies.

hum. good deal ! the thing is, here (france), a new 2010 is worth like 20€ so it's useless to sell it...

Yeah, I wouldn't have done it without the deal I got on the trade-in.

http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/media/play/video/18884847

This seemed easier than it would be on FIFA 10.

headers not being quite so crap would be a major selling point for me.

does anyone have opinions on how the 2010 versions of FIFA and PES stack up on the... PS2?

I think the consensus is that PS2 users should stick with PES. Or at least that was the consensus up until the 2010 releases.

There's no 10vs10 mode in WC2010, strangely.

I've been playing online BAP in FIFA over the last few days. If you play ranked pro matches you get people who are trying to get scouted so most of them pass the ball to you. You also get four voice messages a day from five year old kids asking if you want to join their team; I am waiting for the right offer, possibly from some seven or eight year olds.

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I've played a few games of World Cup and am happy with the purchase. Nothing radically different - looks a bit better, seems slightly more responsive and less twitchy (I feel like I have better control over power of shots and crosses, but I traded in FIFA so can't directly compare). The Captaincy mode (Be A Pro replacement) is a big step up - good feedback, more info and nicer interfaces and menus.

If this is £25 anywhere I will have to fight the temptation to buy it new, even though I only reallyplay FIFA on 10vs10 mode, which this doesn't have. It would certainly appeal to mah aspie-like obsession with penalty kicks.

does WC2010 exist for PS2?

This game is much better than FIFA 10.

how so?

The ball physics are better, the keepers are better, and the matches seem to have an actual realistic flow instead of just being you having five one-on-ones saved and then getting fucked over by a wanky free kick in the 85th minute. I played Andorra and they stuck ten men behind the ball and fouled me a lot, I played Germany and they beat me 3-1 with ruthless Teutonic efficiency; I didn't feel remotely cheated. Shootouts also great.

It's going to be annoyingly impossible to go back to FIFA 10 for club matches, and knowing these fucks they'll probably take half this stuff back out of FIFA 11.

the keepers are better

As in, they stay on their line until it's smart to come out, but they can also let shots squirm under their body or fail to get any height on a backpass clearance if they're under pressure. Pretty sure I've also seen the "flapping at a cross and punching it straight down into the ground" spot, but that may have been weird deflections

Also the John Terry Falling On His Arse Penalty Animation is in

alright so i bought the world cup version of this cuz lol american who doesn't care about regular soccer etc etc anyway when i'm in "team management" there are two columns, one that says OVR and one that says FRM. they are different numbers and i'm wonder what FRM is signifying? i'm assuming it means their rating for this particular match, but i'm not positive

form

what does that mean

how well they are playing right now, as opposed to how well they can play.

right okay

liking this new versions - better keepers are the most obvious change but players seem overall much more responsive. Also liking the new online modes

I've picked up the World Cup edition (for ps3) as I wanted an easy way to play some online games. So far I've kind of just been griefing/trolling people by playing 2 star teams and it has been an amazing lot of fun. I actually got a guy to rage quit tonight when at the 80 minute mark I still led 2-0 vs his Mexican side, when I was playing New Zealand (LOL). I also almost beat Brazil with Uzbekistan after getting an early 2-0 lead, which unfortunately I wasn't able to maintain as Brazil managed to come back to win 3-2 (scoring their third goal in the 87th minute to break my heart). It also cracks me up that even after seeing me pick a crappy 2 star team, so far all my opponents still go on to pick 4 1/2 to 5 star teams like Italy / Brazil / Ivory Coast etc... good times.

Suffered a semi-shameful 0-7 online defeat when I picked half star New Caledonia vs. five star France (though I don't quite understand a rating system that gives France five stars, tbh). I did manage to hold France scoreless until the 45 minute mark, but in the second half they were just unstoppable. Guess my poor guys were tuckered out :(

burned out on fifa 2010 pretty quickly; now I have a PS3 I'm much more interested in PES this time round. I'm tempted to pick up a cheap copy of PES2010 in the interim, did anyone pick that up? I guess you can probably download option files from gfaqs w/updated teams etc, which is pretty handy

pretty much despised FIFA10 as much as any other FIFA. So much hype over the last few FIFA iterations about how they're really overtaken PES and that the games have really changed but i swear the FIFA i used to play on the gamecube is more or less the same as 10 just with worse graphics and slightly less control (obviously loads of extra features like where you play as one player in the game and all that pish that i will never care about but whatevs). Not that it's not better than the new PES games on the xbox, they've just totally gone backwards, so sad.

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thought FIFA10 did lots of things right (the 360 control was an amazing innovation) but the physicality was fundamentally flawed and prone to some illogical rubber banding; I do wish some developer would take the lead and let you pay for roster updates to a game instead of having to fork out for a new game entirely. this way if you liked a particular game's engine you could keep playing it for as long as you want. it wouldn't be that hard to do surely with xbl and PSN these days... they'd likely lose out on too much money though

I still playing FIFA 09 now and again; it's really a great game, don't agree that it's just your mother's FIFA, though it does share some of the 'feeling' (the 'slidiness'?) of old FIFA

iunno, I'm hopeful for PES2011 and it certainly looks very nice from the screens (PES2010 was gorgeous I thought) but I can't help thinking about pesfandevcycle.jpg every time I get my hopes up

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I almost picked up PES2010 earlier this week since it's so cheap, but I kept thinking with the new game coming out in just a few more months and maybe better (we will see), I might as well wait (and picked up the Wolrd Cup game instead). Some of what's missing in FIFA for me (not compared to current PES, but just in general) is that it doesn't feel crisp enough, that the game seems to move at only two speeds (slow or medium) and you don't get a nice gradiation of speed of movement the leads to variety, sometimes it feels like you're swimming on the pitch instead of running, that annoying draggy animation when you're close to a goal keeper holding the ball that amazingly wasn't fixed for the world cup version, and probbaly most importantly that close play feels totally random and like nothing. Also with the World Cup game the online has been disappointing as it seems to dump you into a match only based on if somebody is looking for a match too and it doesn't take connection quality into account as about half my games so far have been laggy and one unplayable due to running at less than half speed. Wish it looked for connection quality even if I had to wait a minute or two for a game. Problem is probably worse since the WC game probably sold 1/10th as much as FIFA 10.

I do wish some developer would take the lead and let you pay for roster updates to a game instead of having to fork out for a new game entirely. this way if you liked a particular game's engine you could keep playing it for as long as you want. it wouldn't be that hard to do surely with xbl and PSN these days...

yeah - I don't think this is ever going to happen officially. On the other hand, people are still doing this with PES 6, I think - you can download option files for the current season with players and kits (haven't tried to update yet myself as I rather like the "classic" feel).

So I've picked up the Wii version of the World Cup game (only $40 - shrug), and well, I like it, actually I really like it. So far, definitely having more fun with this than the HD version. It's cartoony, yes, and exaggerated, but both in a good way - feels more game like. It's also less glitchy than the HD versions and runs much more smoothly (which is what was starting to really bug me with the ps3 game). It's not as simplified as something like Sensible Soccer, but it has that fun, less serious feeling and style. Actually I think the graphics look pretty good, definitely better than the semi-realistic Wii games like PES. There's also some depth - in particular, passing feels like it takes more skill than in the HD versions (you definitely can't ping pong pass). Shooting with a shake feels good too. Defense, I still haven't really figured out - it feels the least good (so far) - kinda like PES on Wii actually - just sort of a vague feeling. I only tried two online games so far and it seemed to work smoothly and pretty much lag free, I was impressed. Games could be a little longer and I'm not sure the balance between what you can do on offense vs. defense is exactly there, but I really have to play more to say for sure. Fun is good!

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