kk brb, heading to Best Buy
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
combat is fun but frustrating at times. I really like the brawling.as mentioned before, enemies often get confused by the parameters in which they can explore and will often stand ten feet in front of you gnashing their teeth and you can fire spell/bow and arrow them to death. On the other hand, sabretooth tigers are monsters that fly all over the goddamn plain after you. it's inconsistent.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
I have a friend who does AI for games and according to him there haven't been major advances in pathing for like forty years.
― lukas, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
that sounds about right.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty neat:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/224985/heres-how-to-make-morrowind-look-almost-as-good-as-skyrim/
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
so wait: if i buy oblivion on steam, can i modify it?
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey, should I get this y/n
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:59 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
okay I thought Oblivion was a dull trudge through samey countryside with tedious missions, and after only 6-7 hrs I am confident that Skyrim shits it into a cocked hat.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
i like that this game is happy at any time to kill you. idk if i am just pushing forward too hard for my level, but i got killed a bunch of times on the thousand steps. fucking troll asshole. i am level 5 btw.
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:35 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah, the frost trolls are hell to kill without a companion, and those giant things will take you out in one hit. Fortunately they can be avoided by just talking a different route to wherever it was you were going. I had no trouble whatsoever on the 7,000 steps though for some reason.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh and I have just hit level 6
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Did you run into a frost troll about 3/4ths of the way up? He gave me a little trouble xp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
without a companion
wait...do you mean without a follower in general, or without a Companion? i was thinking of tackling that quest tonight.
also, my first follower died in pretty much the first big battle i had with her in tow. in the heat of battle i just lost my shit and started spewing fire at everything in the surrounding area, toasting friend and foe alike. then i stole her shit
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
if i could have, i would have cooked her and eaten her as well. my name is valdiev, creep of skyrim
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
btw "those giant things" are not the same as "the frost trolls" (just read back my own post)
Mordy: I never saw a front troll on the 7,000 steps iirc
Z S: 'Follower' and 'companion' are distinct things? Some woman called Lydia has been following me around and getting stuck against rocks, I just assumed she was my companion.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
my follower WILL NOT DIE; she's been killed at least a half dozen times.Maybe they're just beating her to the last inch of life and then abandoning her and coming after me as a main target? Can't tell? She's the Ulgrid the Unbeatable or whatever; the red sonja character in the bar who claims no one can beat her in a fight. Well i brawled the hell out of her and now she won't leave me alone. Dating in Skyrim is complicated.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
The Companions seem hella lame to me btw. Gonna join their group and then ditch them for the Empire first chance i get.
― Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
ahh Companions are a Blades-like society thingo, right
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
I think u can join the Blades too tho. Companions are like the warriors guild.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yep, ta, I just didn't know the Companions were a thing until just now.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
Man, I really want to play this tonight. I haven't played since the weekend. I was all set to play last night but then water went out all day in our building and we ended up staying somewhere else so alas. but tonight. tonight i will play.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
im pretty sure that the only way one of your followers can actually die is if you kill them, ie spraying the area they are stupidly standing in with fire etc.
i am envious of not running into that frost troll on the 7000 steps, are you playing on normal difficulty?
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
lol i always wonder how there is even a functioning society at all with all these monsters roaming around.
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
racist
― Princess Nancy (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
really can't wait to play this now
can't wait to gloriously murder companions
― sex-poodle Al Gore (DJP), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
might've been slightly higher level tho
re racism, i remember in Morrowind they were all severely racist against Argonians/Lizardman and I swear that someone once either made this joke in the game, or we made the joke so many times about the game that I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was actually in the game: "two lizardmen in the back of a wagon, who is driving? the constable!"
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
i'm playing argonian and people keep basically making vaguely racist lizardman comments and i keep having to remind myself they're talking about me!
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
I swear that someone once either made this joke in the game, or we made the joke so many times about the game that I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was actually in the game
ease up on the ganj bro
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait, I forgot to mention I'm in novice, disregard everything I said or ever will say again
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
i should clarify that there were for sure a plethora of racist jokes about argonians in Morrowind, I just don't remember if that was actually one of them -- but i think it was.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
this game is fucking awesome and I hated oblivion fwiw (despite dropping probably 150 hours into it)
― Clay, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
It's funny how there's not necessarily anything that's easily identifiable about how boring Oblivion was. There was the really really stupid way they implemented the invisible walls (which was 80% of my dissatisfaction) but other than that it was just vaguely boring. Skyrim (and Morrowind for that matter) has the X factor that Oblivion completely lacked.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
the main quest was kind of incomprehensible/not compelling and had fuck all to do with the player character (you were pretty much an errand boy for the empire iirc). At least for me. So I would go vast amounts of time avoiding it because who cares. And all the writing was kind of shit.
― Clay, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i was really turned off by the gross mystical royalism of the whole thing. and every single person looked fucking deformed.
― goole, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
Also, Oblivion took place in a really generic gameworld. Nordic stuff + weird mushroom dark elf world are not played out in RPGs at all, but like every RPG over the last 30 years has been vaguely Arthurian Western Europe
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that's true. And the side-quests were dull and (iirc) involved loads of waiting for something to happen. It's a shame, because that first view you get in the game (of the big white citadel thingo in the centre of a verdant Cyrodiil) is gorgeous, but then you realise that the entire game looks exactly the same.
AND, while I'm railing against Oblivion, the aforementioned invisible walls actually chopped paths in half (so rather than facing a precipitous mountain face or deep water you just got a dumb message saying you couldn't go any further). Bloody stupid. So far I've not come across anything like that in Skyrim.
xxp Oh god yeah, very weird character modelling.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 10:27 (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I want to say it was full of hideous Eddings-style tropes but that's probably not the writer I'm looking for. So annoying. Both Morrowind and Skyrim have proper grit.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
climbed a little ways up a mountain today and stopped by a river that fed into a waterfall. i paid some guy wandering along the path a few gold to sing me a song while i just looked around and enjoyed the pretty scenery. was really feeling the *~IMMERSION~*. the ambient nature sounds are beautiful coming through in surround sound. and i love how deeply time of day, weather, and season affect the general mood of the moment and character of the landscape. anyway, when the guy was done with his song and i was finished with the little moment of reverie i got back on the path and a sabretooth tiger immediately jumped out of a bush and mauled me to death. it was a funny moment.
― circa1916, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
so whenever i'm in a tight tunnel trying to back up away from a fight (to get a few more arrows in before we go into melee) i keep bumping into lydia who doesn't know well enough to move back herself. so i've taken to screaming "lydia!" in annoyance and frustration every so often. finally my wife was like, "why do u keep yelling at lydia???"
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
I left Lydia guarding my house. If it was Lydia the Tattooed Lady I'd cart her around but no such luck.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
also, she is always disappearing on me and then i wonder -- lydia, are you dead? but then, no, a few minutes later she is there again.
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
She gets stuck behind things.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
i get worried bc she's carrying all my dragon scales
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
If you lose her completely, save & reload or sleep/wait for one hour and she'll just appear.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
which reminds me, i really need a house or something to stash all my gear
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
Wait what? You can give her stuff? I've been selling all my dragon scales.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
one of the options when you talk with them is "i need to trade some equipment". They're basically pack mules with crossbows.
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
what are the popular options in this thread for housing/storage?
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 November 2011 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
xp omg awesome
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 November 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link
Storage, I'm going nomad atm. Dumping stuff or selling it.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 November 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link