And a summary:
http://m.joystiq.com/2014/01/02/pax-separates-from-penny-arcade-in-co-founders-new-year-resolut/?post=1&icid=joystiq_home_latest_art
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
i'm sure the fact that it was impacting business was just a happy coincidence
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
bully for you
― am0n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link
http://hw1.pa-cdn.com/pa/assets/img/adfree/img_Gabe.png
― am0n, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link
all witedude posters on ilx should have to have some kind of icon next to their dn so we know who they are. like maybe a pale smiley face or something.
― Mordy , Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:32 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
At last, a back-pedalling non-apology done for business reasons that makes Microsoft's back-pedalling non-apology done for business reasons look almost saintly. What a way to start 2014.
― time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link
in reference to peter molyneux's stance on the pay-to-play dungeon keeper
He might want to consider the material that constitutes the bulk of his domicile, I’m just saying. Even a cursory assessment reveals that it’s brittle and optically transparent.
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 February 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link
dude has never met a metaphor he can't unpack further for less effect
why do you keep reading PA, lol
― Nhex, Monday, 10 February 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
i have a problem
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 February 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
even a cursory assessment reveals that it's brittle and optically transparent
i smiled
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-K4fk67g/0/1050x10000/i-K4fk67g-1050x10000.jpg
― Mordy, Monday, 12 May 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link
I just played through that first Penny Arcade game from back in 2008. It uses the Torque engine, looks a lot like indies of the time like the early Telltale games like Sam and Max Season 1 and Tales of Monkey Island. Paper Mario's a good RPG system to rip off, though.
I would pay money to watch Forks play this game and go into conniptions at how bad so much of it is. So much stuff in there that they clearly thought was funny just by sheer presence, like mimes, hobos and excessive swearing.
― Nhex, Sunday, 25 May 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
How much money are we talking here
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 May 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link
They have this weird thing about mimes being evil which is very 1987 comedy
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-7hMkQf3/0/1050x10000/i-7hMkQf3-1050x10000.jpghttp://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/06/13/gabbie-and-tychewhat this strip was really missing was the opportunity for these guys to explore being women because i think they've definitely shown the proper level of sophistication and empathy to pull that offHA PULL THAT OFF GET IT
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 June 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-z6pJHXF/0/1050x10000/i-z6pJHXF-1050x10000.jpg
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link
did these guys ever run a hashtag gamergate comic/op-ed
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
against all odds, they steered clear of the whole damn thing
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
too deep on the collusion side anyway
― Nhex, Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, given their prominence, saying nothing is very very conspicuous. I guess the best you could hope for is that maybe they wanted to say something non-asinine but figured they would only muddy the waters given their horrible and divisive track record. That same track record also suggests other possible interpretations though.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that seems fairly cretinous frankly
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/10/15/star-gourds
pretty badly worded (big surprise) but at least he's taking the sensible position of being against death threatsno #gamergate tag or mention explicitly
― Nhex, Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link
Ehhhhhhhh, yeah, that's something but it's also very clearly 'i side with the GG moderates and their legitimate gripes with the journalists' which is super fucking lame.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
Whatever is required for you to have done yesterday correctly, I hope you succeeded; if it required that you do something with a hat, I pray that the hat did not resist overmuch and that your effects upon the hat were profound and lasting. If you engaged in the standard predation-upon-birds or the various Unbirds they have on offer these days, I pray that your “gains” were not diminished overmuch by the revelry. If it was just Thursday, I hope that it was as noteworthy or nominal, dependent entirely on your aims.
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 November 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
What are the gg moderates like? Isn't the whole thing about demanding "transparency" vis a vis women's sexual history? Seems pretty irredeemable.
― Treeship, Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
"overmuch" is a pretty classic poetaster word
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link
Moderates demand transparency vis a vis literally who's sexual history.
― jmm, Sunday, 30 November 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link
xp lol did not realize "poetaster" was a real word
― Nhex, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda05/Walkthrough/09/9_Poe4_Large.jpg
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 05:41 (nine years ago) link
is that guy a poetaster? idk. poetasters are ppl gesturing to an ill-absorbed concept of literary value for an audience who also have a badly-defined concept of literary value. i think w tycho smth even worse is happening
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 1 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Jesse Thorn of "Jordan, Jesse, Go" finally tells the story of what happened when the PA guys came on their podcast and we're dicks to everybody, then complained about it at length online.
― (rocketcat) (kingfish), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link
I can't believe there are five PAX events a year.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link
I also have a hard time believing I ever stanned for these guys
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link
I went to a couple days of the "main" one my first year in Seattle. It was crowded, like all fan cons, with the added unpleasantness of being darkened, extra-loud, and a for-profit enterprise run by unpleasant jerks.
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link
It kind of seems like Child's Play was a calculated ploy by their business manager to give them a humanistic veneer. By kind of I mean I am totally convinced that's how it came about.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
I mean, great, it raises millions of dollars (that incidentally all pretty much go right into the game industry, and not, for the sake of argument, into medical research, or helping defray patients' hospital bills), but it also seems like it's there so they can pat themselves on the back whenever they and their fanbase act like total dicks to random people
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link
Could also just be that I'm even more cynical now and just don't have the energy for people who are too chickenshit to pick a side on anything that actually matters
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link
^
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 07:43 (seven years ago) link
I started getting emails, and forum trolls, and tweets - calling me every kind of awful name, talking about how shitty my work was, all kinds of awful stuff. It was literally the most unpleasant period of my online life. It went on for weeks. I was totally shocked that people wouldn’t look at a comic like the one they made and think, “Geez, what kind of unprofessional dick would do this?”
total Trump vibes
― stevie, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 10:41 (seven years ago) link
Also I find it hilarious that the guy who has himself drawn himself as
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/theinventory/images/8/82/Tycho-brahe.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101123073834
actually looks like
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Jerryholkins20090209.jpg
― stevie, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 10:48 (seven years ago) link
always avoided the strip as I thought the artwork was incredibly ugly, up there with Family Guy and Key in my least fav comic style aesthetics
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link
I sympathize w Jesse Thorn and have no time for PA but you have to admit that anybody who writes something like this could make a v v tempting target
http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/2006/02/manifesto-for-new-sincerity.html
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link
I don't want to live in a world where I can't hate both sides (though obv. 'lol fat nerd' is an interesting stance on ILX)
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link
My point isn't so much "lol fat nerd" as "guy who writes disgusting webcomic portraying himself as handsome gamer who is disdainful of women turns out to look like a pair of glasses glued to an egg". It's more a question of hypocrisy than flattering my own devilish good looks.
― stevie, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
or not so much hypocrisy as "your chosen avatar tells us so much about your self-loathing and how it drives your LOL RAPEWOLVES worldview"
― stevie, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
this comic used to make me laugh on occasion but man, I haven't heard of a single interaction with these dudes (especially since they started profiting off it) that didn't make me like them a lot less.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
Well, a) That's their house style, has been for a while and b) it's not his avatar and he's not portraying himself, he writes it and the other guy draws it.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
Yeah it's a small thing but telling - if they were different people with different motives/priorities, one could easily imagine the Gabe and Tycho drawings aging/evolving to go alongside the having-kids material or whatever. Thinking here of the Scott McClouds of the world, giving themselves increasingly graying hair etc. But Penny Arcade the cool-guy dgaf dckwolf internet hardman brand wouldn't permit that (though I guess it permits the gradual uglifiication of everything about the art), and the commitment to that particular brand and its profits tells you a lot about who these guys really are.
Child's Play is a fine thing, and IMHO not more harmful to other forms of aid than Toys For Tots etc. But it's interesting that its form and sales pitch are calibrated exactly to reach internet gamerbros with chips on their shoulders about proving a point (recall its origins in a public squabble with some ''games are violent and harmful'' establishment type) and who accept buying power as the final arbiter of right and wrong. The REAL FANS have spoken through their debit cards! (I also imagine that far, far more people have invoked CP in shouting down PA's critcs than have ever donated themselves.)
This characterization isn't meant to denigrate everyone who's given to the thing over the years, cause I expect it has actually done a lot to cheer up some very sick, bored and lonely kids. Just I think it reveals, in a small, nice way, some things about ''gamer'' mentality that elsewhere come through in a big, ugly way.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
Looks like Robert Khoo left the company this year. I got the sense that he was a big part of driving its expansion.
― jmm, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link