only way this really measures up is if they find out that eurogamer's "gamer community correspondent" who was supposedly sympathetic to the 'gamers' was participating on this list
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Brietbart and Gamergaters is such a natural alliance, excited for Jim Hoft's future involvement
― anonanon, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
so the angle is that anyone who was not actively defaming zoe quinn was "supporting" her, awesome
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
I really don't think "like-minded journalists have a mailing list" is scandal-worthy
This is rather blatantly "our side got caught out in IRC chats so let's rail on something innocuous and make soft-thinking people believe they're the same thing #gamergate #btwiamafuckstick"
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 6mIncontrovertible proof of behind-the-scenes collusion, co-ordination and collaboration, for political ends, by game journalists. #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 3mIf you have more information about GameJournoPros, contact me. m✧✧✧@yiannopou✧✧✧.n✧✧ #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 3mSupposed journalistic "competitors" are colluding behind the scenes to influence the news agenda. Readers are in the dark. #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 48sHere's what happened the last time high-level journalists secretly colluded with one another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList #GamerGate
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link
all of the quotes he pulled sound totally reasonable and humane and his language is totally stretched out and panicky
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link
it's as if dude has never heard of trade associations or anything of the sort
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Apart from anything else, this will inflate the egos of the GGs who can be convinced that this thing they're involved in is actually something important, like the talk that's been going around of calling in the FBI to investigate Anita Sarkeesian under RICO, because they heard of RICO once.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me31aq3Mjr1qacv60o1_1280.jpg
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
I accidentally clicked into this thread and have no idea wtf is going on, I think it's best for my sanity to keep it that way.
― Hakeem Olajuwon Howard (Leee), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
off-topic kinda, but this story is pretty great and tangentially relates to abuse of RICO charges
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
did any post the video where the #gamergate dude lost his shit at weird twitter ppl?
― Lamp, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
(lol, also kinda related for a reason i didn't notice until this second - weigel wrote it) xp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
I hope GamerGate lasts forever. I hope there's some unrecognizable descendant of it still trending a year from now.
― jmm, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Now that I think about it, I wonder if this is going to end up with this bullshit crossing over into the other bullshit that is politics - I can kind of imagine Rick Perry going for this (I can definitely imagine Herman Cain going for it).
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
I recently discovered that music journalists have been colluding on a message board
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah i wonder if the real effect of this won't be conservative media outlets setting up game zones
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link
oh shiiiiiiit xp
― ⌘-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
daer god i think i'm gonna tweet that lil insight of mine. wish me luck!
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
as always it's interesting to see how these things branch out into other lines of discourse
looks like one of my "fave" weirdo RWers picked it up
https://twitter.com/johndurant/status/512356851363491840
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/b8qIsrQ.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
so exciting to see the boy nero back in the game. his own journalistic ethics didn't extend to paying people who wrote for his shitty online mag last year http://maxdunbar.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/milo-yiannopoulous-and-the-kernel/
― oppet, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
hilarious the disparity betweem the degree to which the 4channers were actually and specifically and consciously and maliciously conspiring to defame zoe quinn et al and ruin their careers and break the law in doing so, and the piddling degree to which the games journalists were conspiring to do, well, anything really. i mean, i know this is obvious. there seems a much clearer comparison between the #gamergaters and that terrible breitbart spawn who took down Acorn and did all that crepey stuff with that girl, than games journalists and journolist. but there's little value in pointing that out when wingers see nothing wrong in what the bleepblorper got up to.
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link
I am a member of the game writers google group. 70% of the emails are about sharing PR contact info, asking for help when stumped on pre-release review games or setting up online sessions for those review games. The other 30% are about cats or pro wrestling. It's incredibly boring, which is why I only subscribe to the digest now.
― GM, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
what aren't you telling us? hmm? hmm?
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
attn #gamergate weve got a live one!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link
once on GameJournoPros I made a possum joke because somebody mentioned an editor named George Jones
― GM, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
I KNEW IT
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
u shd do an ama and be extremely boring plz
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
(counts on fingers) That's 10% unaccounted for!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
i think i got invited to this? can't remember never joined (thank god as it now turns out) cuz i basically hate talking shop
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
#GAMERGSATESECRETS
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 September 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link
so, i have been ignoring this for the most part, is there something i should be mad about?
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
UMS i saw someone retweet you yesterday and you seem mad about something
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
it's a lot of territorial pissing from basement dwellers
― bnw, Thursday, 18 September 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
that's what it looks like at a glance but i didn't want to dismiss it out of hand
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
ya might as well, it's the same tripe repeated over and over again
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Actually today was interesting, which means I have been spending too much time paying attention to this. But GamerGate appears to have been.. chased off.. 4chan?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
oughtn't click to 4chan at work
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/death-to-the-gamer/
this been posted yet?
― Treeship, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
yes and then we killed the gamer
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
death to jennifer garner
― polyphonic, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Does @Nero get paid for this? Is this someone's actual job?
― jmm, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link
jacobin piece undercooked
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:17 (ten years ago) link
it's just lag00n's in thread strong take (gaming = consumerism) + unpacked into verbosity
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:19 (ten years ago) link
took a quick look at the tag on twitter, came away with this gem
https://twitter.com/Bendilin/status/512708381186854912
― goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk i thought it was pretty good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link
idk i expect more from jacobin i guess
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
but tbf consumerism is pretty much ubiquitous on our culture so maybe its unfair to pick on teh poor gamers, in the preceding piece he does spell out how everyone is a geek now https://www.jacobinmag.com/2013/08/on-geek-culture
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:33 (ten years ago) link
this is good:
There are a few small issues with this analysis. One is the notion that the slights imagined by gamers are just that: imaginary. But they aren’t, and gamers must be taken at face value when they claim to feel threatened. Gamer culture is under threat, though the notion that it’s dead or dying is both overstated and premature.
When your identity has been manufactured by corporations urging you to consume certain things in prescribed ways, then any change, no matter how small, is an existential threat. When women challenge decades of almost exclusively male fantasies of sex and power, this alters the content the gamer consumes. And when that content is altered, gamer identity itself under threat. The vitriol isn’t contrived or artificially manufactured. It has a source.
― goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link