My original character is undetectable in broad daylight if he's crouching and not moving much (and also has the armor that casually poisons enemies when he's in stealth mode). Thanks, sneak skill!
― Skin Boherts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
when i was playing this the character system was such that you had to do a little bit of advance planning to get the build you wanted in terms of perk selection. i never played after that patch that allowed you to roll skills over and cash in your perks (gameyest shit ever btw) so i guess that's sort of moot
― goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
i guess my only advice is to only pick up stuff that has at least a 10:1 cost:weight ratio (or any magic item you haven't disenchanted yet).
― goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
The skill point cash-in is tough to use, I've found. The first time I hit level 100 on a skill and opted to make it legendary, I didn't realize that that particular skill got knocked back down to 15. It wasn't worth the skill points that I got to redistribute in that instance. But if you figure out how to game it (my trick has been to grind away at and use skill points on skills I don't particularly care about and then redistribute them to the skills you want to hone), it's a cool option.
― Skin Boherts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Or, wait, no, I just rapidly levelled up on non-essential skills and used the points I accrued on, like, becoming Master Sneaksmith.
― Skin Boherts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
But if you figure out how to game it
once you've hit smith and enchant 100 and churned out all your maxed out gear you don't really need them anymore. alchemy too maybe if you brew up a huge enough inventory
― goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
100 pickpocket lets u turn entire towns into nudist colonies
― am0n, Friday, 9 October 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link
still like playing this just to hear the soundtrack
― am0n, Friday, 9 October 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
I got cocky after doing so well in Oblivion and finally fired up Skyrim a couple weeks back. After doing the first parts and killing the first dragon easily, I got overconfident and went "MAGE TIEMS" and walked on foot all the way up the mountain to the college.
...only to get sucked into a questline that forced me into a dungeon with the guild to hunt for some relics, that apparently is basically impossible to complete at my level (lol I'm only L4). Aaaaand I cant back out of the dungeon without beatnig the boss (wtf, Bethesda). Aaaaaand of course I have no saves from pre-dungeon, do I.
&*^&^$%^ I dont want to have to start all over again ;_;
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link
Also what the hell did they do to alchemy, it seems all kind of dumbed down now.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
I'm trying to remember what quest/boss you're referring to. But try knocking the difficulty level down temporarily. I had to that a couple of times early on when I kept getting the shit kicked out of me (by dudes who are an easy one-hit kill nowadays).
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 06:31 (eight years ago) link
Under Saarthal. It took an hour, and so much anger and swearing I thought I'd genuinely cracked, just to beat the sub-boss dragur. Apparently the end boss one has changing elemental protection, I'm short on good spells, and I think i already have the game on easy :( wah.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
I'm having a hard time remembering that place myself, but a quick Google search reveals a lever to a door out of that place somewhere near a blue orb? If that rings a bell? I remember one or two places in the game that I couldn't figure out how to get the fuck out of, and that might've been one of them.
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Oh god if I can back out of that quest I totally will. I really need a prima guide for this damn thing.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 26 November 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
I would highly encourage multiple manual saves. They are literally and figuratively a lifesaver. Especially since your game will freeze up on you at some point. It's apparently inevitable. But the journey really is worth all of the little headaches.
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link
I enjoyed Saarthal quite a bit. Because it's an early quest I usually find these less buggy. The one that fucking killed me is the dwarven ruins thing that turns into a giant fungal underdark thing, Difficult, problematic, and impossible to enjoy in one sitting, although it's such an amazing idea. Recently got all the DLC and started a new playthrough before discovering that the vampire storyline intersects with that same ridiculous dungeon. Ugh.
― fields of salmon, Friday, 27 November 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
I'm gonna hunt down a copy of the Prima guide and read the shit out of that, then start again I think :(
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 27 November 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
temple of xrib was so good! no bosses tho iirc
― ogmor, Friday, 27 November 2015 09:11 (eight years ago) link
Temple of Xrib? I was thinking of Blackreach (re: fields of salmon's post), which was one of the best bits of the game!
― ledge, Friday, 27 November 2015 09:14 (eight years ago) link
Can't even remember if I came across the temple of xrib or not...
― ledge, Friday, 27 November 2015 09:42 (eight years ago) link
oh wait yes blackreach is the bigger more mushroomy one... that is one of the better bits. xrib is a smaller cave full of falmer. been a while since I played this
― ogmor, Friday, 27 November 2015 09:52 (eight years ago) link
always felt it was hard to build up a sense of identity w/ yr characters in this game bc despite it's hugeness it didn't feel like yr actions had much impact on how people reacted to you. i was happy to come up w/ ridiculous names & cycle through a variety of ridiculous hats tho.
― ogmor, Friday, 27 November 2015 10:15 (eight years ago) link
interesting revival. i was thinking of maybe going back to Skyrim. i am much more a fan of swords/sorcery than Fallout-style.
does it hold up? my favorite thing ever was levelling up the bow and arrow so i could do bullet-time shooting a dozen enemies at once
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 November 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
I favored leveling up Illusion, sniper casting Fury/Frenzy/Mayhem is super entertaining, and generally just left a handful of maimed mooks to deal with.
Secondary leveling up Archery and Conjuration, a leveled up Bound Bow is available fairly early, and is pretty much the strongest weapon available til endgame.
Someday, I'll travel the Robbaz path to unarmed badassery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Above should read:
Bound Bow is available fairly early, and levelled up is pretty much the strongest weapon available til endgame.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Sunday, 29 November 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
I started from scratch, and it was a wise move! I'm already way more levelled up than I was when I got stuck, because I've been careful to just venture out on small raids, wander about, talk to a lot of ppl to get quests, etc.
Could stil really use the bloody prima guide, mind.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 30 November 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
i used this a lot when i got stuck - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Skyrimand yeah all the dwarven/blackreach stuff is awesome
― am0n, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
I played something like 120 or 160 hours of Skyrim. Great game but I wish the world was different. I don't like winter at all in real life and I hate the sight of snow. Also the towns and cultures are kind of a drag. Nords suck, the architecture sucks, and I don't care about the main storylines. But I have soooooooo much fun doing some of the smaller stuff and doing the dungeons.
― fields of salmon, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 10:40 (eight years ago) link
I love snow. Imagine if Skyrim had a snowboarding element - carving clean lines down from the top of High Hrothgar \m/
― ledge, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link
They sorta do, informally, if you force shout your companion off a mountain. Which is a thing I don't think I could ever get enough of.
I have no real affinity for sword 'n' sorcery stuff, generally. I love this game for the mechanics and the expansiveness and the granularity. Fallout appeals to me more conceptually but, to the relatively shallow extent I've played it, I haven't really gotten into it much. Whereas I've spent a truly obscene number of hours playing Skyrim.
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 13:14 (eight years ago) link
i'd still like to try elder scrolls online, need to find a used copy
― am0n, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
Also the towns and cultures are kind of a drag. Nords suck, the architecture sucks― fields of salmon, Tuesday, December 1, 2015 5:40 AM
lol the towns are like 5 houses with 10 people roaming around waiting for you to trigger their fake interaction dialogue. witcher 3 works similar but somehow feels more real, the villages and cities in that are done almost perfectly. i do remember the skyrim dlc that adds the island to the map looking way cooler than everything in the mainland. even the winter snow people there seemed more interesting.
― am0n, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I have to admit the sparseness of Skyrim vs Cyrodill is bothering me a bit. And the bleeeaaaakkkk snow. I want the quality and play of Skyrim but with Oblivion's maps included! I dunno I guess I just liked wandering in sunny verdant meadows picking flowers and fighting off spriggans and hangin' at Daedric shrines.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
Those spaces are certainly out there. The map is huuuuuuuge.
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
Riften is pretty. Lots of trees and canals and stuff. Shame about the locals.
A few of the most glorious places are below ground.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
Yeah some of the caverns have been rather nice, with waterfalls and moss and things. I encountered my first trolls too, in a tower thing on the way round the mountain? I assume if I just pass that by they wont come after me - they were impossible to beat.
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
You should be able to beat a frost troll pretty early in the game. The first one I recall was during the Seven Thousand Steps ascent. Not necessarily easy, but doable. Especially if you have a companion.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link
If you come up against hard blocks, there's always back to the last save and more side quests. For my first playthrough, when I quick travelled everywhere and pushed through the main quest line, I'd do this often. For my second playthrough, I abstained from quick travel (making for a more interesting game, and forcing more strategic quest sequencing), and had levelled up to killing giants before I met Paarthurnax. Once I was silent casting Fury/Frenzy/Mayhem it was pretty much over for mobs, and I'd use Lydia or another companion as a HP sponge against bosses.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
san are u playing fallout 4?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link
I've decided to abstain from all addictive behaviors and compounds for the time being. To be honest, what I've seen of FO4 hasn't inspired much interest, but I may watch a few hours of a playthrough to see if its less of a wooden rehash than I fear.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link
Trolls gave me the fear early on but after I leveled up some I'd saunter through Labyrinthian with nothing but a bow and some swagger. Hang in there!
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link
I just wish I had more time to dedicate to playing it!
― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
There's a fun easter egg of a sort in Blackreach: go to the main temple. climb one of the towers, use your Force Push Shout (or whatever it's called, the one that allows to you push people away) on the big disco ball that hangs from the ceiling, and see what happens.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 December 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link
Another fun easter egg that I discovered all by myself: go to Lost Valley Redoubt, and climb to the highest manmade ledge there. From up there you can see the lake way down below you. Jump straight to the lake so the massive fall won't kill you, and something interesting will happen.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 December 2015 12:45 (eight years ago) link
Also, there's a loophole that allows you to create ridiculously powerful equipment via enchanting and smithing, but I wouldn't recommend using it. (If you want to know how it goes: use alchemy to create a potion that enhances enchanting, then drink that potion to create clothes that enhance alchemy. Then wear those clothes to create more powerful "enhance enchanting" potions, drink those potions to create more powerful "enhance alchemy" clothes, etc etc. Once you've done this enough times, you can create potions that enhance smithing and enchanting so much that you'll weapons will do 10 times more damage and your armor will protect you 10 times more.) After I figured this out, I used it to make my weapons and armor super tough, but because of this the battles became increasingly boring, only on the highest difficulty level did they pose any challenge.
On the plus side, this allows you to use all those cool-looking clothes and weapons that are otherwise too weak, because pretty much any weapon or piece of cloth is strong enough after this treatment. Personally I used the smithing and enchantment potions to make a pair wooden swords (you know, the ones you normally give to your kids as a gift) into killer weapons, then went around slaughtering dragons and giants as a dual-wielding wooden-sword elf-woman. I've read from somewhere that someone else did the same to a fork (you can't enhance a fork's damage by smithing, but you can put damage-dealing enhancements to it) and became the Great Fork Killer.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 December 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link
"damage-dealing enchantments"
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 December 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link
Just played this again last night after having an out-of-commission PS3 for months. It looks amazing when you've been away from it for awhile!
I'm now remembering a few things that it took me waaaaaaaaaay too long to figure out during my first playthrough:-That iridescent substance you occasionally see on floors? Yeah, that's flammable and something you can use to your advantage.-The stone doors that open with the claw keys? Yeah, you'll notice that the combination is on the key if you examine it close up. You don't actually have to dodge an endless barrage of poison darts while trying every possible combination.
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 December 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link
Figuring out the flammable liquid thing was cool, but the stone door key thing is ridiculous! What's the point of those puzzles then, and why would anyone make a code key that has the code in the key itself? It's ridiculous!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 3 December 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 December 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
I knew I'd eventually stumble upon something in this game that didn't make sense.
Any opinions on whether Oblivion is worth playing if one hasn't already? I mean, is there anything I'd likely get out of it that I wouldn't get out of Skyrim?
― The Featureless Mash That Was Once My Face (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 December 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link