you just have to stick it out until they start fighting each other, and pick off whoever's alone
Only one of the watchers is the actual boss of the first phase, damaging the others won't speed up the fight but the red-eyed "ally" can help by distracting the boss (and the damage he deals to the boss does count).
You can tell who's who by locking-on: the extras will display a regular enemy health bar over their model, the actual boss won't because his health bar is at the bottom.
― chihuahuau, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf3Wj_d-aOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7DmFUU1Ino
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
daaaaa deeeeedeeeee daaaaadeeeee daaaaaadeeeeedaaaaa
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
second phase is really tough. i like the fire sword though, very cool. he kind of reminds me of Artorias.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty sure there are *lore* reasons for that
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:00 (eight years ago) link
played some co-op helping with bosses and red phantoms. it is very fun! a whole new dimension of play from single player really. going through the level and seeing dead enemies and wondering where your host is, trying to keep them alive through the whole level.
back at the shrine i realized i had several unburned undead bone shards so now my estus is up to where it should be. about to try again. i love the forest you go through to get to this boss fight, it reminds me (as much of this game does) of the oolacile ancient forest DLC from the first Dark Souls.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 April 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link
bttf fire sword got me
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 29 April 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link
dang this is amazing like the DS2 sentinels but w DS1 Artorias and then a DS1 final boss battle but with a way cooler sword!
i'm guessing fire sword dodge has to be a hard R/L?
i love it when the fire trail is delayed, just like bttf, and you think you are safe and then WSSSSSHHHH YOU DIED
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 29 April 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link
Anyone know where the wolf ring is?
― chihuahuau, Friday, 29 April 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
apparently it's only a covenant reward or ng+ item, but i thought the jury was out on whether poise actually does anything in this game?
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link
http://kotaku.com/the-mystery-behind-dark-souls-3s-seemingly-useless-pois-1773373128
― ulysses, Friday, 29 April 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
Huh, didn't know that about poise, never tried heavy armour due to low vit.And also because I wanted complete the 4 knights ring set, it's the only one I'm missing.
― chihuahuau, Friday, 29 April 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
i've been grinding pvp and boss battles to get all my stats up to 20 across the board. it's a dumb way to play but it's what i always seem to do.
― ulysses, Friday, 29 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
i'm only leveling vigor, endurance, str, an dex.
so i had a duel yesterday against a guy who was spookily good at parrying. he didn't even have a weapon, just parried every attack i made without fail. even the katana.
also the new thing is apparently using the caestus for parries, because it's pretty much instantaneous (DS1 style). much easier than using a shield, unless you're already used to the shield timing.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
I also grind a lot of souls by co-oping, I finished NG at lv 99 but haven't started NG+ yet, I've been stocking up on upgrade materials and re-visiting some areas for loot that wasn't there the first time I went through, like Havel's set and Greirat's ashes.
― chihuahuau, Friday, 29 April 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
finally took down the Abyss Watchers. my strategy of trying to stay out of range for the 2nd phase wasn't working so I started attacking less w pyromancy and more w melee attacks, thrilled to discover that in the 2nd form he is susceptible to attack stun, letting me get 2-3 hits in. pyromancy is just too slow sometimes...
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:39 (eight years ago) link
hit a "what the hell do i do from here?" point until i fumbled into the ithyrill dungeon.
― ulysses, Sunday, 1 May 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
I was banging my head against Aldrich for awhile yesterday so I went back and did Smouldering Lake and the dungeon. Then got Aldrich, after one of those near misses where you're one light hit away. Cool fight, glad I stuck it out and didn't summon.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Sunday, 1 May 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbqTA1HbNqI
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
oh man, so dark souls
― ulysses, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYRsPEVNQU
― am0n, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 02:24 (eight years ago) link
i caved and summoned someone for the second Gundyr fight. he's just so aggressive, with so little margin for error that it's hard to learn counters. that whole area is really cool though.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
i think i'm maybe 2-3 zones out from the final boss but i've basically given up advancing in favor of invading/fight clubbing after pontiff bonfire, in anor londo, and with aldrich faithful. as much as people complain about pvp in 3, i'm really enjoying it. i love these games in the early days when summons are still basically instant despite advancement (and there's still a decent distribution level wise before everyone gravitates toward whatever the preferred pvp level shakes out to be)
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i am enjoying level building (up to 109, where the costs start bumping up against decreasing benefits) and getting into nonsensical free for alls. lack of voice support is so crucial for this game.
Just beat the giant guy with some help, which seems the best way to get him done. Gotta look around for next steps and explore the last few zones more closely.
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
same. i'm having so much fun with fight clubs and invasions (and my success rate has skyrocketed since switching to a sharp Exiled Greatsword!) that i'm reluctant to finish the game.
art, are you on PS4?
xp
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
giant guy = Yhorm?
yeah, think so.
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
but you used the, um, item in the room during the fight, right?
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link
no idea what you're talking about so no. did i fuck up?
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
ok either you're talking about a different fight or you did things the very hard way.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
xp to Jordan - i am indeed on ps4, psn: vrilr0
someday ilx fightclub? i'm going to roll an alt character to advance up to aldrich then basically just stop for fights in the usual arena. i've heard some suggestions elsewhere that fight clubs should move to ashen lake because of the optional boss, but for now the desirable locale is still pontiff bonfire
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
lack of voice support is so crucial for this game.
souls games are basically the only games i play online for this exact reason
― i do not sense the entity ted (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
cool i'll add you, let's definitely do some red soapstones if we happen to be on at the same time.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link
for sure. i need all the practice i can find if i ever hope to get gud
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
(i believe my psn name is Mr_Kitka btw)
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
i would love to fight with y'all; i'm on as forksclovetofu
jordan, the giant fight i did was in the cathedral with the divebombing gargoyles and the covens of fire priestesses. He had a huge machete and lunges at you. I spent about fifteen minutes rolling under his feet and hitting his ankles with no benefit. Called in some help with magic attacks and they killed him easily with head shots.
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
yeaaaah, so there's a sword in the arena (Demon's Souls callback) with a special attack that can kill him in about 5 hits. it did take me a long time to figure out how that attack works though.
i'm down for ilx fight club this Sunday during the day if anyone's around.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
oh tru? i had no idea
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
i wonder if your summons were actually using that weapon.
one of the guys was using something that i assumed was magic that looked like a big wave of power shooting through the room.
― ulysses, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
that's the one.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link
but for now the desirable locale is still pontiff bonfire
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:49
been sticking with the high wall fight clubs, i like the location better, nice little arena there w/ observation deck
― am0n, Monday, 9 May 2016 04:35 (eight years ago) link
I'll have to check back there, I imagine that's mostly people who have started NG+? This would also be a good spot for an ilx fight club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZESDHIRYpfA
Nameless King fight was nuts btw. I felt like I could have gotten through it on my own eventually, but a friend and I took turns summoning each other and it still felt challenging & fun.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 9 May 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtWC6Djtdw
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
I'm just arrived at the big Dark Souls 1 fanservice area and am loving the chance to farm regular and large titanite from these two knights at the base of this long stairway. But DAMN they are killing me over and over w this lightning sword.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
It's gotten to the point where it is extremely comical now. While I am dying I can see my ghost from the previous attempt ..... also dying!
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Just got there myself. that frostbite dog warrior thing can fuck off too.
― ulysses, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah that huge spidery thing w all the eyes?
I got a strategy that is starting to work w the 3 knights at the start. Rolling diagonally into their attacks is best then attacking from the side/behind. Two backstabs is easy. Once they bring out the lightning that's it. You better clear your calendar and get ready to roll.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 02:17 (eight years ago) link
ofc now that means i build up 70k souls before losing them
naw, that guy down the stairs on the left in the room with a pile of chests
― ulysses, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 13:02 (eight years ago) link