Yeah, I guess so. Haven't really played any before.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
Splatoon is better than most since it has very short games and it is possible to win practically on your own if you're really locked in. The worst experiences are still way better than getting stuck in a 30 minute MOBA game with a teammate who's not trying to win
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
oh I guess you have to play turf war for your first several hours though where the 'win on your own' bit doesn't apply as much. the ranked modes are a better experience imo, I haven't touched turf war since I got to level 10 except for splatfests
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
apart from some wacky interference which seems to fuck up everything bluetooth (and i have nfi where it's coming fromit was coming from my leg
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 23 December 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link
Games I am tempted to check out:
YōdanjiBlossom Tales: The Sleeping KingDragonFangZ - The Rose & Dungeon of Time
― cwkiii, Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
I need clarification from AA re: leg interference
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
yeah wtf does he have a cyborg leg or what
― dipso inferno (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
I was thinking x-powers
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 December 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
the switch has been living on the floor surrounded by wifi/bluetooth devices and 30cm from a load of cables, and there’s a big wooden box full of linen between the switch and the sofa. holding the right joycon in my lap was apparently the final straw. if I hold the joycons even a tiny bit away from my legs everything seems to be fine.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 23 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
i mean that’s not technically a denial of cyborgleggery
― dipso inferno (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
i don't wish to comment on cyborgleggery at this time
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
i fuckin knew it
― dipso inferno (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 December 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
blossom tales looks like a nice little link to the past clone, will try it out at some point
― ciderpress, Sunday, 24 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
Genuinely looking forward to your review
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 24 December 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link
Still loving Steamworld Dig 2. It's been sort of easy so far, but then one level is this inescapable Terminator/Matrix like cyber world that is intense!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
yeah it's certainly not a hard or long game but i found it really satisfying. the movement is really fun once you get the hookshot
― ciderpress, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Finished Steamworld Dig 2 and was a bit bummed it was so short - as I (pretty easily) beat the final challenge, I half hoped it wasn't really the end - but I actually kind of look forward to playing it again and figuring out more tricks and secret rooms and stuff. In fact, there were puzzles I never solved and things I never found and I sort of worried that without them I couldn't win, but it turns out they were just there to, go figure, enrich the game.
On the plus side, this may be the first game I've actually finished since Luigi's Haunted Mansion on Gamecube.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
if you liked the general style of dig, steamworld heist is on switch now too, it's a 2d tactics game that's sort of a cross between xcom and worms
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
oxenfree worth $5?
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link
Huh, that looks awesome! I'd buy for $5.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link
haven't played it yet but it's got a good rep among story heavy gameplay light ("walking simulator") indie games
― ciderpress, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link
okay i'm in. my backlog is like twenty deep anyway, what's one more.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 7 January 2018 05:25 (six years ago) link
I bought it and also Shovel Knight, which everyone seems to love and which seems like a bargain, considering it bundles together, well, everything, including new/future releases. I've been curious about Doom (which I've never played) but I've heard different things about the quality on the Switch. I mean I'm sure it's fine, but there were rumors of needing software updates. Likewise the Sexy Brutale, which seems cool but has so many known problems the developers admitted it and said they were working on fixes, but there's been no new news on that front so far.
Being relatively new to actually caring about a system, I really like how Switch operates. There are big, immersive, expensive games like SMO and BotW and whatever, but then there are all these little indies that are sometimes just a few dollars, and when there are more, there's often a ton of content. What I don't like is what sometimes feels like price gouging to me. Like Snipperclips, it's cute but should not be more than $15-$20, imo. A bigger complaint seems to be something like Doom, which is over $50 on the Switch, despite being a few years old, a problematic (or at least controversial) port, and like half the price or less on other systems. I get that $50 is historically actually not that bad, but it's a price point high enough that I'm less likely to go for unless it's a must-have (like proprietary Nintendo titles like Mario Kart, Zelda, etc.). On the other hand, I will happily pay $5-$15 for a lot of these indies and take a risk.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
school vacations ending tomorrow, I'm happy that my boy already beat Ganon. now I can take my turn!
we have been playing a lot of Jackbox Party Pack 2, to which Switch brings nothing new but an easier interface than beaming from my laptop from steam. (yes, I bought a steam link too for cheap but I've been too lazy to bother plugging it in, also who has that many hdmi ports?) I wish I could stream our Jackbox sessions directly from the switch by like twitch or whatever bc it would be rad to play with the grandparents / my brother / etc who all live on other continents, but I think switch'll get that stuff eventually
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 7 January 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link
I should also note that I have Homebrew running on our old-school (at this point) Wii and have it stuffed with stuff I copied from the library, so that mitigates prices I pay for new Switch titles. Plus me and my kids still like playing the Wii titles. My younger one, for example, greatly prefers Animal Crossing to Stardew Valley, which she thinks it's just too much/hard/boring. And I still like Super Mario Galaxy.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link
Can't remember who said it now but s/o to whoever mentioned overlooked, I bought it ahead of my family xmas and it was an overwhelming success. Four player on the go for hours, first time in my life that my aunt / female cousins have not only taken an interest but have actively demanded to be inclusion, was amazing fun. A bargain at £15 or whatever it was
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 7 January 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
Overcooked*
+ *included, obv, always forget to proofread on phone
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 7 January 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link
I'm the one who mentioned it, it was the reason I bought a Switch this year! But we haven't started it yet, been too cooked with Jackbox (the bomb defusing game is super great)
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 7 January 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link
Overcooked is great, but the skill level of my family is all over the place (I'm best, wife is the worst, kids in between) so it leads to so much yelling it toes the dangerous line between fun yell and angry yell.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link
don't recommend the bomb game in Jackbox 2 then, it's a coop logic game that requires a lot of communication. funnnnnn though
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
xp you probably have the same situation we do which is basically the team is as good as you're able to accomplish mostly solo while everyone else runs around ruining meals
― Mordy, Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
the anti-tombots
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
Time to call a family meeting
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 January 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
Shovel Knight is tons of fun. Just the right degree of frustrating and challenging. Like, it's so easy to mess up - is this what they mean by a permadeath game? - but each time I try something again I learn a new skill or trick and eventually get through, which is what a good game is supposed to be like.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link
permadeath means if you die once you start the game over from the beginning. mostly used in rpgs/dungeon crawlers. iirc shovel knight is not that, it's just a NES era platformer pastiche
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link
I think it was accidentally that for me, because I kept mistakenly destroying the checkpoints and harvesting big gems instead of actually activating them (the checkpoints), so every time I died it sent me back to the beginning of the level!
I absolutely love (having been out of the game - so to speak - for so long) that the stuff I grew up with as a first generation Nintendo user has become design touchpoints. The whole lexicon of roguelike, permadeth, platformer, dungeon crawler, bullet hell, etc. - it's like I locked my copies of Contra and Mega Man and Castlevania and Legend of Zelda in some vault and opened it up decades later to see that they've mutated and given birth to hundreds of babies.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 05:35 (six years ago) link
I like Shovel Knight a lot! but didn't feel compelled to return to it
My favourite old game is Starfox and it's really annoying that the series has been de-prioritized, and the most recent entry got it all so wrong.
I got Skyrim for my Switch and it's insane how much I'm enjoying replaying it. The experience of exploring that games' 100s of dungeons that are fairly rote-by-design is much, much more enjoyable than Zelda's 120 shrines
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 8 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link
and the shrines are so much better than the divine beasts* and labyrinths*** only through gerudo beast. maybe the last one saves it.** labyrinth music is still great.
want very badly to get skyrim (never played), but will prioritize a game I can play online with niece and nephews over it.
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
i like the puzzle shrines a lot! could do without so many test of strength ones
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
and the divine beasts are basically just big puzzle shrines so I like those too. certainly not as good as the better traditional Zelda dungeons though
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
yeah, the puzzle aspect is good. the shrines are generally so much prettier than the divine beasts, though.
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link
Are the Skyrim game ending bugs in the Switch version too?
― Jeff, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
my wishlist for the next zelda is to keep the open overworld design and the new physics/interactions engine but bring back the GameCube era dungeons and have some bigger-feeling towns
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
that wishlist otm. forgot about the yiga hideout. I actually enjoyed that one very much because I wasn't stuck in a small beige animal.
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
really I think the biggest lesson is not that dungeon items e.g. the hookshot are lame, it's that gating overworld exploration behind having them is lame. outside of their dungeon they should just be tools, not keys.
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
^Absolute heresy, tools have always been overworld keys, right back to the first Zelda, Alundra.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
first zelda had nintendo power subscription gating overworld lost woods exploration
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
To be more precise: I enjoy the whole Zelda/Metroid thing of showing you an item or entrance you can't get to and making you think 'oh I can come back here when I have the hookshot'. I don't enjoy as much when I can't explore an entire quadrant of the map until the second half of the game because it's behind a ravine you can only get across with the hookshot.
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
botw got rid of both these things by giving you every tool up front, I think you can still have a open world feeling game without getting rid of the first but you always have to get rid of the second
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link