I've said this elsewhere (probably more than once) but what always appealed to me about Galaga and then good schmups afterward (anything Treasure made) is that the spectacle and pleasure come not only from gameplay and design but the thrill of excellent 'choreography'-- that is, that these landscapes and enemies might be designed to reveal themselves and respond to player input in an aesthetically appealing sense-- this particular neural network was activated when I was 8 and played Galaga 88 for the first time and literally saw the aliens dancing to waltzes and tangos
Starfox did the exact same thing but in a 3D environment and I tried to explain to friends what it was about Starfox (specifically) that differentiated its effect on my internal response from other space combat games (Wing Commander-derived free-combat) or other on-rails games (Crash Bandicoot) but I guess it just became a dry subject
But it's clear to me too that the very designers of Starfox themselves ~didn't get what made the game so great~ as they introduced all-range mode into Starfox 64 and other increasingly obnoxious addendums and footnotes to what I liked about the original SNES (and 64) games: being overwhelmed with enemies as you fly through the wreckage of a fleet, giant frigates appearing and the Arwing flying in closely to take out a few turrets, asteroid ballet, twisting internal corridors to reach the engine core, trench runs and so on
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
that's a great post. the all-range mode levels/bosses in starfox 64 are definitely a huge step down from the on-rails ones. but you still have so much great on-rails stuff. and the way enemies can pop up (and get blown up) in formation gets at least a little of that galaga choreography, no?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 February 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link
Yes! That's what I like about it. There's something about it that's like... an interactive ballet
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:14 (six years ago) link
Ok so what do you think of Starfox 2?
― Evan, Saturday, 10 February 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link
Unfortunately, Starfox 2 does not have a high enough frame rate to be an effective allegorical attack on the Trump administration— Gold medal in Olympic finger skating (@owenpallett) October 27, 2017
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 10 February 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
So I discovered that Tetris Attack two player is ridiculously addictive
Also started playing Chrono Trigger.
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 12 February 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
we had a tradition of spending all our downtime between studying/tests at the end of college semesters sitting around playing tetris attack! good times
― mh, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
Multiplayer Tetris attack is one of the most underrated games ever, imo
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
yeah, that and puzzle fighter on PS1 were prob the biggest games outside of tony hawk when I was in college. <3 gargantua blarg forever.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
i didn't know that game until the DS version of Puzzle League came out, but yeah it rules
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link
SNES Classic available just right now: https://www.gamestop.com/snes/consoles/super-nes-classic-edition/152771
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
By the time I forward that to someone who needs it it'll be too late I'm sure
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
they've been sticking around a bit longer; give it a try
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link
I jumped! Thanks ulysses.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
Anybody getting this thing? To me the downside of the classic is that it won't play cartridges, but this does.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/7/16934180/super-nt-review-super-nintendo-snes-analogue
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
not snes related but that review reminds me that my new tv doesn't have a vga input so the next time I want to hook up the ol' dreamcast I'm going to have to do some thinking
― mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
just snagged a snes mini off amazon, mainly to troll old lunch
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
Congrats on your successful troll!
So does anyone have the deets of the guy who's assembling these things by hand so I can ask him to text me once he finishes another one in two or three weeks time?
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
But seriously: this has to be the work of asshole speculators snatching up every extra unit the second they hit the streets. Grade-A BS!
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
fyi I’ll be happy to sell you mine with just a modest 150% finder’s fee
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link
i am willing to chip in my muscle and street smarts and keep watch on the edge of the alley, $200 + free snacks for my friends
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
I will weigh your offers carefully.
If my interest were based more on nostalgia than making up for missing out on a bunch of classic games (aside from the fifteen minutes or so I spent playing them on friends' Nintendo consoles, as we were more of a Sega/C64 family), I'd probably just bite the bullet and pay whatever extortionate rate someone wanted to charge for one.
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link
Like I'm pretty sure I've never played a Donkey Kong Country game, or any Zelda beyond the first. Probably played the first stage of Super Mario World at some point, and then nothing until one that was released for the Wii. You get the picture.
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
it's wild these days, I went from joking with a friend about Donkey Kong to playing a really well emulated Donkey Kong Country on my computer in about ten minutes not long ago. And my cheap-ass snes knockoff controller was good enough for DKC. I can still time those rolls over the pits pretty well.
― mh, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:19 (six years ago) link
Yeah, there are certain respects in which the future is kinda awesome. Like having a bunch of games I played the shit out of 20+ years ago loaded on my Vita, ready to play when/wherever.
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link
I largely want an excuse to finally play through Super Metroid
― Nhex, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
Ooh I played that for a second last night and got destroyed by the first Chozo Comes Alive! moment
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link
there's a shop down the street from me that has all the old snes games, i think they might also have some stuff that plays the old carts
the eye-opening moment for me re: emulation was when intellivision games became emulable, god those intellivision controllers were flat garbage
mostly i'm trying to convince the spouse to let me buy a vectrex but we keep wanting to, like, make house payments and stuff
to get it back on topic the snes rpgs are the best rpgs ever made
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link
Super Metroid is so great. Really looking forward to replaying that one. I still get the music from the Crateria Caverns stuck in my head.
Something I'm really enjoying with Chrono Trigger is how it manages to use the SNES's limited graphics as an advantage, in that it's not always clear whether a wall is a wall or more a staircase. You can be running around a maze for a while and then suddenly the way out will just pop out at you. Good for hidden passages and secrets too.
I'd love to read (or maybe write) a short ode to the top-down RPG genre. So many tropes to be discussed and dissected and I love how Earthbound played with a lot of those tropes. Also I have been having fun calling my characters things like 'Fucky' and 'Arses'
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:04 (six years ago) link
I am 12 btw
https://i.imgur.com/2FfIWPD.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/BN8jyc7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/MQ77Cuu.jpg
― Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:11 (six years ago) link
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― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 10:16 (six years ago) link
Ya my first exposure to any Final Fantasy game was FF2 at a friend's house
Protagonist's name was Lezbo
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
Never a bad time to revive this imo: What do you name your peepz in RPGs?
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
paging old lunchlook what the amazon delivery dude brought for me todayhttps://i.imgur.com/BqhqnDu.jpg
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
Such a weird coincidence, I was just about to post what my own delivery dude brought me:
https://d2gg9evh47fn9z.cloudfront.net/800px_COLOURBOX9228474.jpg
― You dishonor your ancestors with your emoji abstention (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
rude
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
keep it to the wdyll thread, buddy
― mh, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
kinda taken aback at how dinky this li’l snes actually is in personalso enjoying that i can power it from the usb port on the front of my ps4
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
Does that actually provide enough power to safely run it?
― Evan, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
it has so far!
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
kind of funny that the playstation started off as a snes add-on and now...here you are
the circle of life man
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
man punch-out was really the original dark souls huh - punishingly difficult opponents who require patience and keen observation to take apart i’d forgotten how hilariously weedy gabby jay’s little exclamations of ‘yay!’ are
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
ha yeah, you’re right! xp
punishingly difficult opponents
and yet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emfbB89ZquY
― Evan, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
okay that’s nuts
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link
YAY
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0w2lrn0a4QThis isn't a rom hack unfortunately. Just really good video editing.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 13 April 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link
I miss Chrono Trigger so much... This is ridiculous
― frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
lol
there was a snes console in my dreams last night. the one belonging to my brother and i broke many years back and is sitting uselessly in my parents' attic. in the dream it had came back to life and there were new titles to play on it
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
little nemo 2019: the post-apocalyptic dream master
― Karl Malone, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link