FIFA 2010

Apparently you can already upload your picture and make your guy?

Def up for doing a league, only real problem last year was that they had all this online stuff you could do but I ended up just playing it against random terrible mongs and getting frustrated.

not kidding about the HDTV. i'm still playing on a standard 21", which is "okay" with most games if i sit close enough, but managing the squad and formations in FIFA is hella hard

btw now PES claims to have 360 dribbling too. when did they think of this?

xps i'm up for a league, if i get some time to work on my skills first

hmmm, seems I'm on my own on the ps3 here...

After further play:

+ Overhead kick clearances
+ Seems more possible for good penalties to go in even if the keeper goes the right way

- Saved penalties still ridiculous one handed supersaves that go out for a throw

I stopped playing the demo cos i. I hate demos and ii. I want to savour the wait cos I'm all calvinist or protestant (or whatever faction) like that

waiting for finished video games was actually one of the major points of disagreements between the calvinists and the lutherans, ironically.

I always mix up who was into waiting and who was into torrenting in those wars

leaving a passive-aggressive note for whichever housemate didn't charge the Wii remotes:

http://www.flutterbyewings.com/nunoftheabove/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/martin-luther.jpg

:)

srsly, if u haven't already, wack the game down a difficulty notch and try playing on full manual... so good

but very hard; getting a shot on target in the arena is a herculean task

Demo still doesn't seem to be out in the US - I thought it was out today :(

too lazy to download and burn

are we talking fifa 2010 on a next generation console? i wish.

ha just heard the in-stadium tannoy announced "congratulations to jeremy x who was married in the stadium on the 11th of the month"

!!!

hahaha, I heard a mid-game "could so and so please contact a steward" announcement but couldn't make out the details.

The full manual shooting just seems masochistic and pointless - you press forward and it goes straight at the keeper, anything infinitessimally to the left or right of that and it goes well wide.

http://fifa.easports.com/enGB/_img/features/featurephotos/14-authentic-transfers.jpg

I like that their screenshot demonstrating FIFA's newfound transfer realism has Chelsea with a budget of £64 million having already spent £22 million, and Teemu Tainio playing for Man City.

The rumours and confirmed deals lists are a good idea though, and the actual figures seem a bit more realistic.

64 million should say "86 million".

why isn't this out yet

casillas going for £14m also pretty dumb

Marlon Harewood is the most £2.5 million player imaginable though, to be fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvFyq0uXwLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcutlKrJ7lA

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTS35fA4NU&feature=channel

i like the idea of a sweaty fifa fanboy locked in his room for hours with the pes demo trying to score a rubbish goal. the second one would obviously make the most reasonable man power off in rage, but the first and third aren't that bad at all, so if this is the worst the sweaty dude can come up with, it speaks in pes' favor

dudes - FIFA 10 feels 99.5% the same as FIFA 09. Not worth a $60 US upgrade, imo. Still a great game though. Crosses felt slightly better (sharper & more variety)?

I disagree

sweaty fifa fanboy at it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM0SNWGi1Lc

sorry tht was flip, this is how I think it's different:

- technical players are as good as the outright fast players now; so xavi can be as effective henry; pace is far less effective.
- each goal is more important, if you score you can hold out much easier;
- animation is more realistic, huge improvement in this regard; it just makes the game far better; animation is gameplay imo
- through balls are far less effective.
- you have to mix up your game more, passes with crosses, instead of pass, and then through ball before shooting and you have to look for players in space
- ball travels quicker and at a lower trajectory when you cross or spray the ball the around
- defenders make last ditch attempts at clearances, including some nice new animations
- ball reacts more realistic in play, totally physics based gameplay
- defending is much more tactical instead of pressing all over the place
- they've including a 'jockeying' animation this time round, which makes it easier to discern when you're doing it and helps you figure out if you're doing it right
- long distance shots are worth taking on more often; long distance passing is now viable
- AI controlled players are better, they track opposition players very well, which just makes opening defenses more difficult and requires player creativity and more patient attacks
- skilled dribble is fantastic

this is just from the demo, which is a few builds behind the current build, which will probably be a few builds again behind the retail game; full game has virtual pro, free kick editor etc

game controls feels so different to me, coming from playing tonnes of 09; the 360 dribble is subtle but fantastic and the player urgency is brilliant

let me rephrase that then - as a more casual player, the games feel so similar I can't see myself spending $60 dollars for some play tweaks that could have easily been a patch. Still feel satisfied with FIFA 09 (still satisfied with Winning Eleven 8 / PES 4 tbh)

360 dribbling closer to next level innovation really than a little play tweak you find in a patch. which brings me to PES, i guess they intend to include the 360 in the retail version because i found very little of it in the demo? felt pretty clunky and oddly paced compared to FIFA.

Last I heard Pro Evolution had more directions you could go in, but not 360 like FIFA.

some play tweaks that could have easily been a patch

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

huh - why not? Look how much, for instance, Valve has patched Team Fortress 2...

PES has 360 degree dribbling in the demo but it is so poorly implemented (ie the animations are rubbish) that you'd be forgiven for asking wha'happen

- animation is more realistic, huge improvement in this regard; it just makes the game far better; animation is gameplay imo

this is engine stuff, jeff; it'd have to have been some patch. 360 degree dribbling is engine stuff too, I don't know much about game development but I'd be impressed if they could patch this kind of stuff in. it's taken them however many years to get to the point where they've even attempted to put it, that's how much 'effort' it's taken

"For the most part these refinements are minute, the sort of details that only serious players will understand, let alone become excited by. The AI’s understanding of trapping the ball has been improved, for instance. Now, rather than positioning themselves to control the ball as early as possible – which often results in unrealistic mid-air chest-downs – players will look for the easiest way to bring the ball under control, perhaps by taking a step backwards and waiting for it to drop to the floor. Through balls are now played into the space in front of runners rather than directly to their feet, and those runners can now make curved runs, bending along the offside line to spring defences or arcing between opposition players to collect an angled ball.

There are dozens of such tweaks, making the game more authentic, more complicated, more contextual. But perhaps the alteration that will make the biggest difference to how FIFA actually feels is the removal of the standard eight-directional player axis and the introduction of full 360-degree turning and movement. It’s the perfect illustration of Paterson’s drive to open up scripted and limited areas of FIFA’s engine with lifelike mechanisms offering a far greater number of gameplay variations. “I find it very satisfying,” Rutter says of the new system. “The fact that you couldn’t do that with a player like Cristiano Ronaldo just seemed pretty wrong… It’s one thing people saying, ‘We want more kits, boots and balls’, but when you can’t actually do something as simple as go: ‘There’s two players – I want to run between them…’”"

anyone else tried the PES demo yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpmCNgodzSU

PES has 360 degree dribbling in the demo but it is so poorly implemented (ie the animations are rubbish) that you'd be forgiven for asking wha'happen

― cozwn, den 17 september 2009 21:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i tried it again and could feel it, it's just that the the players oddly enough still prefer to move in the old, usual directions.

I just downloaded the PES demo then played both back to back & it's a real embarrassment for Konami. PES just feels really archaic and broken now compared to FIFA - there's really no comparison. It's a real testament to just how far the FIFA team has come and overall how much effort they've put into making a better game the last few years. It seems like Konami are trying some stuff with PES, but that none of it is working or mixing together smoothly? They need to stop tweaking and really start over from scratch, I think.

I did notice a couple other improvement with FIFA 10 that I didn't notice in my first game this morning. Most notably (for me) was getting the ball out of the air from a goal kick is no longer simply a matter of the guy in front always getting it, but there's more realistic jostling and a real chance for both players. Also, as I think Cozwn wrote above, the L2 jockeying seems improved and looks more natural.

They need to stop tweaking and really start over from scratch, I think.

^This for sure. I feel like all they do is develop a new engine (or port the old one) when a new generation of consoles comes out, then it's just minor tweaks (break something in one iteration, fix it next year) for 5, or 6, or however many years til there's a new generation. Fifa 10, much like the first PES on the Wii did, looks to be trying to break that mould, but I expect it'll end up how PES on the Wii did again; minor tweaks, another £40 game. But at least the changes in Fifa 10 look significant compared to 09.

I guess the same 'tweak' criticism is true of most games where sequel(s) appear in the same generation, but it's far less noticeable due to most games having much more of a narrative than sports titles do; new story & levels = new game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m789zBO47XY

replays of other ppls' goals are more boring thn their retold dreams imo but the passing in tht video is sick

No Lampard pointing to his Mum in the sky no credibility.

dutch national team licensed this time round

http://fifasoccerblog.com/files/2009/09/New-Manager-Mode-screenshot-500x281.jpg

If you pre-order this from shopto.net you get entered into a draw to win a Premier League season ticket. They don't actually have any, they just buy one for you, if there are any left at the club you want. Maybe some guy with Blackburn as a second team will get lucky, I'unno.

asda £24 on launch day, apparently; that'll do me

9.3 on ign uk; 9 on eg

If last year saw FIFA knocking PES off its perch, this year it's chasing it around the birdcage with a plank of wood and a sledgehammer.

Video game representations of Wayne Rooney always neaten up his facial irregularities so much he ends up just looking like a slightly balder Danny Murphy.

if you pay all that money to get ign to write you a press release, you would hope they would at least proof it first. "pretentions".

http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/media/play/video/9624829

Full game needs to come out just to rid me of fucken botched demo goalkeeper AI

switched to dynamic cam for a laugh, actually feels quite nice
http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/media/play/video/9626365

"The biggest thing we did this year is we stopped giving [the commentators] a script – they get no scripted lines from us. Everything you hear them say in the game comes straight from them. We create the scenario, give them a context and they look at the situation and play off each other, using their own words."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/6219427/FIFA-10-The-sound-and-soul-of-football.html