FIFA 2010

"He's heeled it backwards."

"A heel pass."

"They're stroking it around looking for an opening."

"And he smacks one!"

"It's a ding dong battle between these two teams."

"Put in!"

anyone agree w/stephen ireland being a 78 when gareth barry is an 84?
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1056/imag0027c.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5969/imag0028m.jpg

No, can't agree with Tevez being equal to x1 Gareth Barry either. Go four across the middle and get Petrov in there (based on tonight's irl performance).

so fellow nerds, you excited yet? If anyone's playing this on ps3, hit me up.

I AM VERY EXCITED

Shops (Game in Islington, at least) opening at midnight. Had no idea this happened for games. Well done thread, I think I've been convinced to get this for the Wii.

don't get it for the wii!!! get PES if u have a wii

this is crucial - if u own a ps2, PC or wii get PES; if u own a PS3/360 get FIFA

Oh ok!

I might just get last year's PES then, at least I won't have to move Alonso back.

(but why's it no good on the wii? Obviously it's not as powerful as PS3/360, but why do they even bother making games that aren't as good as they want them to be? Naive casual gamer asking big questions.)

well actually I thought the wii version was still running the ps2 code (fifa on PC runs the PS2 game iirc and so did last year's wii version). the 360/PS3 versions have a full new physics-based engine... but reading around seems the wii version is difft. this time out so maybe I spoke too soon...

I'd maybe wait for a review or two of the wii version before deciding? I know for a fact tht PES2009 on the wii is great tho, and can probably be had for pennies now

Re: Ireland/Barry - Are the overalls an average of all the other stats? Cos a bunch of em probably aren't important depending on your position, could just be that Barry is high because of his versatility and insane penalty-taking chops, Ireland could still be more stacked in terms of likelihood of scoring goals and having a major impact on a game

here's an early hands-on for the wii vn.
http://uk.gamespot.com/wii/sports/fifasoccer10/news.html?sid=6213397&mode=previews

I mean like it didn't matter what yr overall was in FIFA 09, if you were a central midfielder you weren't gonna do fuck-all unless you're fast

they really need to work on player individuality next yr

this post from the fsb forums is on point:

"I think nearly everyone here grew up on PES or around it, but today's PES fans seem to think we know nothing about it or that we're missing out on some incredible gaming experience by not sticking by the franchise through hell or high water. Fact of the matter is, I personally know A LOT about PES and what made it so popular.

I used to buy every magazine in the build up to PES3/4/5/6 (not including every ISS, yes, every one) and even imported the sole release of the Gamecube PES (Winning Eleven 6 final evolution).

I'm prepared for the backlash/angry emails because of this next sentence, but I feel I'm correct.

The main "feel" of PES and the "individuality" comes from 4 main running/dribbling animations. Yep. Remember? You could choose them for any player in the game in the edit mode (from PE6). I remember it being one of the main factors that elevated PES beyond the rest at the time cause Freddie Ljungberg had his own style of run with little nuances on how he controlled the ball.

The second point is the player faces. They've always, ALWAYS looked better in PES. It's what defined the ISS series (You know? international Superstar Soccer. Emphasis on the SUPERSTAR). Koppers actually LOOKED like Kluivert and Allejo actually LOOKED like Romario even way back in the SNES days.

The third part is presentation. Konami have always had the best goal replays and game intros. They've been using the same camera's for the replays and celebrations for years now. The sequence of banging in a goal into a water-ripple-like net and having the game cut to a TV-Style camera angle to watch (in realtime) your players celebrate and then going over the goal from 2 other angles and then coming back to the goal celebration in slow motion, and then giving you control of the replay, has been around in the ISS/PES franchise for yonks. From PES6 they've given us over 70 different real life celebrations you can do and you could always choose them in edit mode.

Lets also not forget the league/cup celebrations that last for ages with the ceremony of medal presenting and running around the pitch with the cup.

All of this adds to the personality of the game. I called it "mystic" cause no one ever bothers trying to explain it. Above is the truth and I feel it can be bettered. Maybe that's the reason for the hostility i normally receive for posts like this?

For me, all it would take would be for EA to add 4-5 new dribbling animations that could be assigned in edit mode as well. One for each kind of player:

- Burley/Strong but skillful player dribbling (rooney/podolski/ibrahimmovic/Drogba/Ferdidand/etc)
- Light/fast player/skillful (lennon/robben/walcott)
- Strong/Less skilled (Terry/Puyol/Cannacaro/etc)
- Average skill.

That's pretty much how the 4 skilled lined up in PES6. (go check it out). Each has their own reaction to kicking/running/turning/trapping. Pretty revolutionary for it's time and they use the same formula to this day. If EA mimicked this for Fifa11 with that next gen animation and physics engine powering these new Fifa's (using inverse kinetics) I feel that would be enough for individuality (AI is a whole other issue ).

Next though, for individuality, is seeing your players lift a trophy at the end of the season. It would add tonnes to the game. It's so underrated. Imagine lifting the ACTUAL Premier League title with the Barclays banners and fireworks etc? EA have the licence so we haven't even seen a 3D model of any of the trophies being presented in any footy game. Sad isn't it?

ha, secret achievement:

Bad loser 0G
select to quit & forfeit 5 xboxlive matches when losing

But aren't all games reviews paid-for guaranteed-at-least 8/10 PR nonsense. Is there actually a good/reliable games site? I don't know who to trust.

Anyway, no mention of 360dribbling on the EA wii site, and this:

“Strike it System” set pieces
The new set piece system will utilise the Wii Remote™ creating tense head to head battles on penalties, free-kicks and corners. Each player must time the shaking of their Wii Remote™ perfectly in order to either score or defend free-kicks, penalties and corners adding to the excitement.

hmmm I don't think all reviews are moneyhatted but a lot are. u can normally guage by the metacritic score but yeah word of mouth is the best review imo. from tht gamespot hands-on it seems like EA have abandoned any notion tht FIFA10 on the wii is actually a football sim, it's apparently arcadey as all hell. probably more in common w/mario strikers then than PES

PES on wii is still a sim; and the controls are amazing but take a little getting used to.

compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvzGgG3jsxM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWUml4aSXk

I'm very excited by this. Will probably get it tomorrow since I haven't been able to go back playing to 09 since I've downloaded the demo of 10...

I really like the look of the point and pass stuff on PES, and I'm more used to PES over the last 7 years or so, so I'll probably go with that one, thanks for the vids and that.

Mind's made up by PES having lovely Fernando Torres and Messi on the cover, rather than Rooney and Frank. Also, it's not out 'til November so i can get away with buying something else in the meantime (maybe Beatles Bandgame).

I've bought the Wii versions of PES both last year and the year before, and this year's looks much the same. It's a good version of the game. Last year they also added back in the ability to use the traditional control method if you so desired. What really makes it stand out though is the Wii controls, and the way they allow better passing and an ability to create nice runs into space on the fly, the ability to control players off the ball easily. It can get a bit overwhelming having that much control though.

However, after watching the video (above) of the year's FIFA on Wii, I'm interested, just because it looks different - a little more game like and maybe a little more appropriate to the Wii. I like the idea of changing things up and making the game play a little more arcade-like... with things like a super meter(!). Definitely will wait for reviews, but it's on my radar now, especially because PES just looks identical to last year's game (which I already have). Cozwn - has anybody written up this year's new tweaks?

for FIFA or PES wii? dunno, I only really follow the PS360 versions of each

http://img.skitch.com/20090930-8np8jwhwast89p6men941tqc6h.jpg

PES Wii - just curious what they are claiming to have tweaked this year to make it incredibly better than last year's edition?

sounds interesting; I haven't heard anything about that tho

sadly, PES wii tends to get (unfairly) overlooked in all the yearly hubbub and carping between the two factions : /

nah - I was just joking - I'm sure it's basically exactly the same as last year.

Since they allow you to play defense in PES Wii 09 (you couldn't really do anything in 08) and added the missing modes like Master League, I'm not sure what big improvements they could make. Also, 09 came out in like March - they haven't had a full year's development (10 will be out in November).

I doubt I'll be getting it just for updated rosters.

EZ - do you have a feeling about the FIFA Wii gameplay video above?

Mixed thoughts - like the look of the players (just a touch cartoony, in a good way), didn't like the camera angle or sound effects, both of which I assume are tweakable. Don't like the idea of the momentum meter or unblockable shots; I like the fact that PES on Wii can be a pretty hardcore sim. Player control looked pretty decent, which can sometimes be frustrating in PES.

I think there's a place for something between the madcap lunacy of Mario Strikers (which is really fun, if you haven't checked it out) and PES. I don't think I'd buy but might rent it to give it a go.

playing this now - SO EXCITED

I HATE YOU

(I can't bring myself to haul myself out to the asda midnight launch today so will have to wait dutifully)

what position are you making ur virtual pro and show us ur gameface!!! :D

I may make a point of passing by Asda tonight. I think there's something sad about buying games from somewhere Peter Andre's been pimping his album but for that price you have to when the game shops are looking for £40.

not a big fan of virtual pro yet - just started a manager season
transfers and all that are indeed much less frustrating
gameplay is much smoother I find than on the demo
the game does feel much slicker and there are a lot of unexpected little touches (eg the stretched tackles to pass or tuck the ball into the net) but so far I wouldn't call it a radical make-over

shit shit fuck forgot to go to asda too busy moaning about Celtic :(

totally plundering rapid vienna's frontline for my manager mode

no gameface on mac :(

so far i've only done some random games, el clasico etc, but the feel of this is great. speaking as a former pes stan i can't believe how huge this game is, so many teams to play! still have no idea really what game mode to start with either?

I think I have all the ilx 360 ppl on my fl; I'll start a wee league and send u all invites. no pressure, if ur not into it. onimo add me if you'd like in on it, my gt is cozeny

soooo apparently the queues at asdas and tescos nationwide were hundreds long at midnight o_O

Just got back with my copy. Arrived just after midnight and joined a surprisingly long queue.

Just got back home my god they had 100 copies for PS3 and 100 for 360 and they've virtually sold out by the time i got my copy. That was at a tesco where i wasn't expecting it to be busy! Crazy times.

Just got back from the Metrocentre Asda. There was fucking hundreds of people there!

Fucking hell, I just had to queue for 40 minutes. There was a queue in Asda right around the store.

At least 150 people at my local asda (norwich)! madness...!

wth is going on?!

can see all of vfb wolfsburg's play going up the left hand side thru their new LWB 'cozen'

I've played it all evening yesterday (on 360).
it's so great.
As said above it's not as much a total make-over as an improved version of an already great game on almost every level.
I love how you feel more free on the pitch.
and yeah, plenty of details that make it much more realistic.
it's harder to score, yet, on international level, I managed to win almost all my games yesterday (including an astounding 4-0 with France against Italy !).

it's FIFA-mania, people !

postal striiiiiike

tesco blud

I think I only have a Morrisons near me, but it's small; will investigate

25 notes in there too

Sainsbury's?

£37, apparently...

freaking out my director of lols w/tht price