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persona 5 and dragon quest xi have revived my interest in console gaming for the first time since the era of like gta vice city and ffix, so i have no idea what's going on anymore. why is everyone in the twitter thread on that KOEI announcement flipping out about digital only?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

a lot of people like buying physical copies of games, especially JRPG fans.

this is just a rerelease/port of 3 extremely niche ps3 games though so it doesn't really make sense for them to manufacture/distribute since only like 1000 people are going to buy it regardless of format

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

there's a couple publishers whose entire business is producing small print run physical editions of indie games for the insane collector types who refuse to buy a digital game for $20 but will buy a hard copy for $40

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

bizarre, gamers are the worst

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

physical copies still serve an important purpose in a world where AAA games are pushing the 50gb bluray capacity and broadband internet isn't accessible to everyone, also they obv allow for a secondary market which is big in some parts of the world. people also have concerns about digital storefronts eventually shutting down and their game collections going away with them which is certainly a problem but i'm optimistic that preservation efforts will outpace that.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

i mainly buy digital these days when i can primarily because i'm too lazy to changes discs or cartridges when i want to play something else

heteroflexible pansexual polyamorous relationship anarchist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

i'm doing a mix currently based on sales and whether i anticipate wanting to lend out or trade in the game at some point

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

i'll take pretty much any opportunity not to have more crap in my house

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

that's where i was at last year but i just moved into a much bigger apartment and have space to fill now

still, switch is the only device i plan to buy any physical software for ever again

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

Hi everyone, if you asked yourself what Shin'en is doing since #FastRMX: News are coming tomorrow for #NintendoSwitch!

— Shin'en Multimedia (@ShinenGames) September 26, 2018

fast RMX was really good, looking forward to seeing what they're up to now

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

SlowEZK

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link

Hey video games are good

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

yeah funny how that works out

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

I was exposed to an NES maybe once as a child and so Mario 3 is essentially new to me and man I appreciate being able to savescum my way through this. Losing lives and going back to the start of a world is just intolerable.

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

In all my life I have never gotten further than the first river in Ghosts and Goblins, but I still love it

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 September 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

that opening stage music helps. but yeah, same here, though my love is tempered with pure hatred

Nhex, Thursday, 27 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

Towerfall, the best local multiplayer game of all time, is out on Switch today with a dollop of new stuff like 6-player mode. Don’t miss it!

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 27 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

xxxp I don't think I ever made it past World 2 in SMB3 without warping as a kid, but I was happy to just play the same levels over and over. Enjoying getting back into it now, but man, I need one of those joycons with a proper d-pad badly.

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Thursday, 27 September 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I’m just using the stick like a heretic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 27 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

Really? I find the stick even more frustrating than the directional buttons; it's really hard to gauge, e.g. whether down-left will translate to down or left.

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Friday, 28 September 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

I played 40+ hours of Celeste with the stick this year and I think I’m just used to it now. Also the hand position is more natural lol.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 28 September 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

Celeste has more than four directions though! I think I'm mainly thinking of my trouble with NES Zelda, here.

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Friday, 28 September 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

it doesn’t help that the Pro Controller has an egregiously flawed D-pad, it’s basically unusable.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 28 September 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

How'd that happen? The pro controller is a pretty quality product.

Evan, Friday, 28 September 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

Something about the design of the contacts and the deadzone of the D pad means that you can eg get a down input by pressing left or right in a sort of downward motion. Made Lumines with the pro controller D-pad pretty hazardous for example. Some folks have worked out how to make the dead zone bigger with tape but I’ve not bothered.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 28 September 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

the pokken controller is the best dpad I've found on a switch specific controller but it's wired and doesn't have rumble or gyro or sticks so it's not general use

i think you can also get an adapter to use a ps4 controller which have good dpads

ideally they'll fix the pro controller design flaw but my Xenoblade one still has it so they weren't there yet as of last December. will keep an eye on what people say about the smash one

ciderpress, Friday, 28 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

i might go with the GC controller for smash anyway - don't remember how the d-pads on those were
kind of ironic because doesn't Nintendo own the patent on the original + shape design?

Nhex, Friday, 28 September 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

I just want replica SNES controllers.

El Tomboto, Friday, 28 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

gc dpad is too tiny for anything except menu stuff in my experience

i dunno if Nintendo still holds a patent on the + but i think that's why PlayStation controllers didn't use it

ciderpress, Friday, 28 September 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

I just want replica SNES controllers.

― El Tomboto, Friday, September 28, 2018 1:33 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.8bitdo.com/#Products

Evan, Friday, 28 September 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

8bitdo makes a bunch of stuff like that but ive never used it all i can't vouch

ciderpress, Friday, 28 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

The d pad got messed up on mine but it might be because I let it get banged up in my laptop bag. Otherwise it's pretty nice! Way better than all the other cheap usb ones out there. iBuffalo is great too but mine died within a few months... so it seems I was unlucky. I am very nice to my technology too so not sure what my problem is with SNES controllers.

Evan, Friday, 28 September 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

<3 my snes-alike 8bitdo controller. realized I needed an upgrade early into celeste, got an SF30, never looked back.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 29 September 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

just noticed child of light is coming out on this next week that's one I'd like to play at some point

ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

guacamelee coming out on the eshop today apparently, with 2 on the way in december

i haven't played these but some people like em a lot

ciderpress, Monday, 8 October 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

Thanks for the tip! That game looks fun.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

Did anyone buy the SNES classic? Is there any reason *not* to buy it?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

Is there any reason *not* to buy it?

only reason not to is if you're into the idea of building your own version for ~$100 that can play all SNES games (instead of just 20), and also all NES, Genesis, Game Boy, Atari, etc

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3190347/gaming/how-to-build-a-raspberry-pi-retrogaming-emulation-console.html

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

Yeah these classic console reissues seem gimmicky but they’re nice for the actual hardware

Too few games

F# A# (∞), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link

xp lol

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

other well-regarded 2d sidescroller games getting switch ports this week: child of light, mark of the ninja

also some new game from swery (the deadly premonition guy) that i've seen almost no info about

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

I did the raspberry pi thing and it's not hard but it is kind of a pain in the ass. It seems like every time I try to use it something's fucked up--the sound doesn't work, or the controller doesn't work or whatever. It'd almost be worth the extra cash to buy the official SNES reissue thing to not have to worry about it and just turn it on and be reasonably assured that it'll just work.

Dan I., Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

ah, bummer. i guess i shouldn't suggest it as an option, since i haven't done it myself (i just use OpenEmu on my macbook and plug a ps4 controller iN). but i guess it's not too surprising that the sound is fucked up - raspberry pi's are sometimes a massssssive pain in the ass w/ sound.

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

ah i forgot - that's probably the main reason i bailed on trying to do one of those

Nhex, Thursday, 11 October 2018 05:24 (five years ago) link

Or you can hack your snes or nes classic!

Evan, Thursday, 11 October 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link

here's some yokai watch 4 preview footage, looks like they're basically reusing the combat and visual style from ni no kuni 2 for this

https://youtu.be/OKKwB8l92so

ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

probably gonna buy a switch this weekend. i guess at this point everyone downloads the games instead of buying physical media? what's a good-sized memory card to buy? any other essential accessories i need right from the start?

also is nintendo online worth it? looks like it's only $20 a year so guessing that it is

na (NA), Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

I buy physical games to save on memory card space and because it’s cute; it’s only mildly annoying. I’m not sure what the optimal $/GB SD card size is but it does get more expensive to get the biggest available sizes. I went with 64GB which should hold a lot of indie games. Everybody says you should get a glass screen protector but I haven’t and nothing bad has happened. I don’t care if Nintendo Online is worth it because it’s $20 and I’m wealthy and irresponsible.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

i have a 128gb microsd card and that's been plenty of space for me. the biggest first party games like Zelda and Xenoblade are around 12gb and most are much smaller than that. physical media is still an option if you like being able to resell or lend games. i do a mix currently

tempered glass screen protector if you're worried about the screen, it's a pretty durable plastic screen but it's still plastic so it can scratch if something hits it hard

the pro controller is a bit pricey but worth it if youre planning to play docked a lot and want a normal controller. you can probably find one for $50-60 on sale rather than the 80 msrp

i haven't got the online service yet, waiting for smash bros, so can't speak on it yet

ciderpress, Saturday, 13 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link


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