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how far are you? are you speedrunning anything yet?

or also, maybe, what is celeste? what is this game "celeste" that everyone's talking about?

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

I've done the first three stages, the first two B-sides, and all of a certain extra you can access from stage three. I was surprised by how emotional I got at the end of the second stage.

Iain Mew (if), Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

this game is sw8 but i am horrible at it. horrible at all twitchy games. i'm about as far in as ^^^ and already there have been a bunch of times where i can't seem to progress without stepping away from the current room for a few hours, only to come back, beat it, and have to do the same for the very next room, ad roominum.

not a bad thing necessarily, just makes me question if my thumbs are doing what i think i'm telling them to.

sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

that's about where i am, too, although i haven't even tried the b-sides yet. i'm not really a speedrunner type but i can see trying to set a good PR for the first couple chapters. they seem like they'd actually be possible to do in one run, without dying, with enough practice. and even if your PR is several minutes slower than some absurdly good 7-year-old, it's still satisfying in a very particular way to have the ability to run through a crazy series of obstacles without dying a single time.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

i've done the main story and full cleared chapter 1 and 1B, will get around to the rest at some point once i've shrunk my games-ive-bought-but-havent-played list

i legitimately think this is a 10/10 game and the best pure platformer i've ever played. everything people here were talking about when trying to sell me & others on Dark Souls applies here, about how the game patiently teaches you how to improve at it until by the end you're blasting through screens that would have looked impossible at the start. the chase/boss sequences are really intense but i found myself cruising through stretches of them purely on the instincts that the game had provided me through the design of the levels leading up to them. very cool.

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

also i'm playing on switch and i cannot commit to a consistent control scheme, for some things i have to use the analog stick and some things i have to use the d pad buttons. i think i'm just bad at games.

sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

i'm playing on ps4. i have been playing with the d-pad, but my thumb is seriously sore! i had to switch to analog last night because it was just getting so painful

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

i use stick for that reason. my right thumb gets sore after a bit from all the jumping/dashing though. can't really marathon this for that reason.

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

i'd recommend climbing the whole mountain before digging into the B-sides if you want a proper ascending difficulty curve. there were a couple screens in 1B that required more precision than anything in the regular levels

ciderpress, Sunday, 28 January 2018 18:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

glad to hear that - it's why i was holding off. i didn't want to exhaust myself trying to beat the amped up versions of the normal levels before checking out rest of the game

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

really loving the mirror chapter, which i wasn't enjoying as much at first.

i am such a stan for this game right now

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

i beat the mirror chapter with only 338 deaths! beat THAT

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

I just beat Mirror Temple (chapter 5). for some reason I was compelled to grind out 2B yesterday. I died well over 1000 times!

This is a total 10/10 goty masterpiece, an apogee of the genre. It hooks right into your brain and wires you up to the analog stick, training you to be capable of precision you wern’t before. Who knows, after beating this game I might be able to do a quarter circle forward.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

tim rogers said this game had the best jump he had ever experienced. i don't know if it tops SMB3, but it's right up there. when you play you ARE celeste (wait...is the main character celeste? i'm not even sure)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

Celeste is the mountain

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

but maybe the mountain is the character too, in a way

*bong rip*

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

you guys have completely sold me on this but i'm afraid it's not good for me to do this on the switch... maybe ps4 is the better bet?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

I've been playing on the Switch Pro controller, and it's taking me some effort to get used to it, but the game does seem to do a pretty good job at throwing you new challenges that at first seem impossible but, slowly but surely, become achievable. And then it starts all over again with the next screen. As I posted to the Switch thread, right now I can't imagine playing more than 20 minutes or so at a stretch, which means only 12949439 deaths or so.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

got this last night for ps4 and yeah, super fun

also agree that it's a 20-30min max type deal for me

gbx, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

same on all points and ditto but the stress is pretty great. I suck at this.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

karl have u considered that maybe the mountain is us

*stares vacantly into middle distance*

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah right after posting that I progressed a bit more and there was a nice conversation about the mountain. Now I know that the mountain is Taum Sauk Mountain, in Missouri.

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

i'm about to dive back in for the ...6th chapter? not sure what i'm up to. for some reason this is more of a 2-3 hours at a time kind of game for me. i'm playing dark souls 3, too, and it's interesting to go back and forth between the two styles of YOU DIED. the dark souls version can be more heartbreaking (and hard to bounce back from) when the tough part is a boss fight that takes a couple minutes to reach in the first place. it's nice in Celeste to just regenerate in the same spot and give it another shot a second or two later. so far i haven't hit any rooms that take longer than 5 minutes or so to get through, and a lot of them i'm able to just push my way through first time on some sort of crazy intuitive hellride like ciderpress mentioned above:

the chase/boss sequences are really intense but i found myself cruising through stretches of them purely on the instincts that the game had provided me through the design of the levels leading up to them. very cool.

ps sleepingbag i just noticed "ad roominum" in your post above, lol

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

wow. just made it to the end! i finished in just a touch under 11 hours

there's a certain kind of fun to be had with the kinds of AAA games that have enormous sandbox areas and a million sidequests in addition to the main storyline. but i feel like the end state those kinds of games lead to is exhaustion. you tackle as many sidequests as you can until you've had enough, then quit or take on the final mission. after all that work and time and effort (and some fun, sometimes), you just kind of stick a fork in it.

NOT SO with celeste. jfc, the end game amps up the intensity (not necessarily the difficulty) so much it's unbelievable! there is a boss showdown that is just O_O.
there's all sorts of stuff to do and go back to. i haven't done any of the b-sides.

i can think of only two criticisms for this game.
1) it makes my thumb hurt
2) i wish it had a simple map showing which rooms you've visited and their entrances/exits

that's it. wow. *howls at the moon*

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

just read this short little interview here: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/feature_conquering_the_indie_mountain_with_celeste_creator_matt_makes_games

What does the future hold for Celeste?

Hopefully, a game that people remember and come back to fondly. I don't think we have any plans to create a sequel to Celeste - it really feels like we told the story we wanted to tell.

fuck yeah, that's what i'm talking about. make a perfect game, then drop the mic and go to the next one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.instagram.com/TheoUnderStars/

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

Madeleine. Celeste. Coincidence in a game about time and memory, or are there any -or any more obvious - proust references?

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wondering whether to buy this - is it fun, or is it too twitchy/tense to count as relaxing?

I've just been replaying 10,000,000 (not a platform game) but that's about as breakneck as I can handle a modern game before I stop finding it fun

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

As I observed, it's weirdly chill, almost zen-like, despite being so stressful. Context counts, I guess?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:33 (eight months ago) Permalink

It makes my hands sweat

It is really unbelievable how often you die on this game. And crazy that I'll pass a room first try, and then take twenty tries on my next run through it

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

the rooms are small enough and the reset times after death so quick that its not stressful really, and you feel satisfied after finally figuring out a room

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

i was feeling really good about trying to 100% the game. i went back and got all the strawberries for chapters 1 and 2, completed their b-sides, recorded 0 death runthroughs (2:35 and 3:31 respectively)

but shiiiit the difficulty does ramp up a bit for chapter 3. i managed to find all the strawberries but i'm not sure i'll ever be able to do a 0 death run (which is important to me for some reason)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow that's crazy

I got to the windy level and my internal rating for this game dropped from a 10/10 to an 8/10

Windy level can go fuck itself

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

I stopped even thinking about the strawberries on this level

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

windy level was my least favorite, but chapter 5 is better. and then everything to the end is just O_O (i thought)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

You guys are nuts. I hadn't really touched it since the day I bought it, but was playing tonight and there was one screen on chapter 1 - yes, near the very beginning - that was kicking my ass so hard I was convinced my controller was broken and was even googling known issues. Eventually I found someone on youtube, and yeah, I was literally never going to figure out this screen, but the dude's play did help me realize what I was doing wrong. For some reason either I didn't know or had forgotten that you can only dash once before landing on ground, which means you can only *jump* off things you're clinging to, not *dash* off them (right?). However, you can just jump into the void and *then* dash. Just once, though, unless you get one of those recharging things.

Anyway, I'm old and my thumbs hurt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

"I'm old and my thumbs hurt" is what how this game is meant to make you feel

Anybody I've shown it to under 30 is like "lol you are old, we don't know how to play this kind of shit"

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

i finally figured out how to stream on twitch from my ps4 (i had weird microphone issues), so i'm going to work on the chapter 3 b-side in a sec. or start to figure out how to do it quickly without dying

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

in case anyone is incredibly bored tonight. i'm all by myself tonight and my dog has already been taken out, so this is going to be a wednesday night epiiiic stream

https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:43 (eight months ago) Permalink

Watched for a little while. Those levels look pretty hard!

DJI, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

they are intensely hard! room 4 of ch. 3 b-side now

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

ok WHOA, say what you want about the windy level, but the crystal heart for it is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest of all time. i have never thought so highly of a collectible.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:40 (eight months ago) Permalink

only like four strawberries in but this is very nice

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 08:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

Karl, I watched yr videos (I've never watched Twitch before!), that looks intense

I think I may regrettably have to accept that, if I struggled to even beat the first boss on Shovel Knight, Celeste may not be the Game For Me

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah Karl has cured me of my thirst for this :/

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

Oh shit

I saw that crystal heart (vanilla run through) but I didn't know how to jump up to it and gave up

Whoops?

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

fwiw the vanilla levels are not nearly as hard as the ones karl is playing there

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I was mainly working on the chapter 3 b-side and that was intense. It took about 500-600 deaths to get through!

Andrew I feel bad if I ruined it for you! ciderpress is right about the vanilla game not being nearly so hard. The first chapter in particular is a gem of level design, gradually teaching the skills of the game to newcomers. If I have time later tonight I’d be happy to do a leisurely chapter one strawberry hunt! I’ll let y’all know here if I do.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:15 (eight months ago) Permalink

fgti

Let’s just say that to get to it you have to think about the game’s influences. I couldn’t believe it when it actually worked!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

On the other hand (no pun intended), I haven't resorted to assist mode yet. Because what would be the point? I think psychologically this is getting me ready for Dark Souls, even though there are lots of questions re: the port's game play on the Switch.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

This is harder than Dark Souls, imo

Dan I., Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:05 (eight months ago) Permalink

i find dark souls to be more difficult, tbh. when i last play DS3 i was stuck on a boss that i had already spent more than an hour on. so far i haven't gotten stuck on a screen in celeste for more than 30 minutes, although i'm veering close to that pretty frequently in chapter 7-B

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

It's probably just me! The very precise, exact motions this game demands are tougher for me, while the big 3D world in DS allows for more degrees of freedom--my "chicken shit" style of play works really well in that context, haha

Dan I., Friday, 23 February 2018 00:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, this game is just so unforgiving. The fact that it can take half an hour to figure out how to move a few inches over the course of just a couple of seconds ... you just got to do it, and even then, sometimes it's a wonder it gets done!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 03:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think it’s a testament to this game’s quality that it seems like people across a huge range of natural skill with it are sticking with the game to the end of the story.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 03:59 (eight months ago) Permalink

The design is really smart, because even if you're going to die a lot, again and again, over and over, it's fast and it's fair. It's not like you've died because some randomized swipe of a demon's tail takes out your last sliver of health of whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 04:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

i just finished my first playthrough. i didn't go out of my way to find strawberries but if i ran into one and thought i could pick it up i did so i ended up w/ 68. i also found one b-tape and one diamond. you guys that are going through all the b-sides - did you find them naturally or look them up? i'm trying to decide if it's worth it to find them myself or if i should just spoil it.

Mordy, Friday, 23 February 2018 04:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

found a few naturally, had to look one up, and ran across an answer to another one on accident while watching someone's video on another topic.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 04:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

The tapes I found some the first time through, the rest hunting based on the hint in the checkpoint selection when replaying the level. I needed some kind of hint for all the blue hearts I’ve gotten so far.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

The tapes are easy to find compared to the blue hearts, if you start looking for out of the way strawberries you will find your way to the tapes too

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

i didn't realize until recently that there's more stuff AFTER the b-sides! like, a lot more. i will never 100% this game

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

Just watched a youtube guy beat a level that's killed me easily a hundred times on his first try, like it was no big deal.

Dan I., Friday, 23 February 2018 06:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's the worst.

Despite all my struggle I've found maybe 3 b-side cassettes so far, somehow.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 13:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

I'm slowly working my way through this. Chapter 6 is gorgeous. The way that going underwater affects the score is soo nice

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

i LOVE that. it feels genuinely refreshing to sit at the bottom of a pond after a difficult screen

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 20:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

I did the first three b sides and got all the strawberries and stuff for those normal levels. I got enough hearts to unlock the cave and damn I’m like two rooms in and I have no idea

Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 04:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

Mordy don’t you have a job and multiple small children and presumably average sleep requirements how are you banging through this so fast

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

My kids love watching my play :D also it really hasn’t taken so long I guess I’ve played a lot of games like this?

Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

Aww yay

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 24 February 2018 05:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

I should be amazing at this game but I fucking suck at it

I finished the 3rd stage but I'm saving this game for a travel day

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 24 February 2018 14:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

i'm just about to start the summit chapter and i've only found 1 tape so far? wtf..

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

they tend to be pretty out of the way

ciderpress, Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

ZS was right tho that if you're just exploring exhaustively you'll eventually find them (or at least the first few i haven't gotten em all yet)

Mordy, Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

I haven't played in a few days and my thumbs are still sort of numb.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

i made it to the summit level let's doooo this

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've hit a spot which must be toward the end of the hotel level where I know I have to bounce up this chimney and not get hit by those moving pairs of lava things and I know I can do it and that it will take me 100 tries and ... I just don't feel like it. I'll get to it eventually.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

Made it to the summit :)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

the voices in this game are adorable

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

YOLOOOOO

Dan I., Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

I played the entire main story line without knowing any of these tricks! I figured out just the very first, easiest one on accident and thought that was cool

https://youtu.be/-fzcnDIpuZs?t=5m20s

Dan I., Tuesday, 27 February 2018 05:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

oh my god! the last time i played i was super freaked out by these whispering voices that i couldn't make out.

MYSTERY SOLVED (voices at 1:10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE8diav5I1k

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 05:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

possible spoiler: don't play that until after you've gotten through the mirror chapter

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 05:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've just about reached the point in this game where all remaining strawberries and uncompleted (i.e. b-side) levels are effectively impossible for my slow-reflexes, low-dexterity, near-middle-aged self.

Dan I., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

Beat the core though!

Dan I., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

Theo's instagram

https://www.instagram.com/TheoUnderStars/

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

did anybody watch that video about the whispering voices? i thought it was really cool, but i admit that i am weirdly into reversed whispering voices, probably too much so

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvhCThWWy3Q

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

the end of chapter six was an incredibly hokey narrative turn visible from a mile off, but also otoh a sweet boss battle

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 10 March 2018 16:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I have now beaten the chapter 6 B side, it only took 2399 deaths

valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:22 (four months ago) Permalink

:O

i think that's where i left off with the game, halfway through it

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:30 (four months ago) Permalink

I bought this as a treat for myself for finishing a grad school application

I am dying a lot

It is hard

I thought there'd be ten or so levels that let you into it slowly, but

Nope

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:52 (three months ago) Permalink

It may be a perfect game but I am on an extended break (I'm as early in the game as the hotel, iirc). The game is relentlessly difficult, even if it handles dying well, though to be fair/honest I haven't tried it on the easier setting yet.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:21 (three months ago) Permalink

My right thumb fell off after 30 mins play

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:23 (three months ago) Permalink

Mind you it's still easier than Ghosts N Ghouls

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 28 June 2018 12:24 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

got through the chapter 6 b-side, damn that was rough. but was surprised that only 800-something deaths or so (lol) got tallied up at the end. cool.

loved the summit b-side, what a complete joy to play through... until those wall jumps, my GOD. third flag from the top just brought my momentum to an absolute stop. probably spent half my time for the level on this one screen. but I made it.

then the first screen of the core b-side really humbled me. now on hiatus due to travel but due to deep self-doubt.

def one of the best games ever.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 13 July 2018 05:22 (three months ago) Permalink

i took a break a while back because my thumb was hurting so badly! think i'm healed up now, but it's gonna take a while to get back in the groove again

Karl Malone, Friday, 13 July 2018 05:34 (three months ago) Permalink

playing on switch & realized I needed a reasonably OK d-pad p early on. ordered an 8bitdo controller. no regrets!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 13 July 2018 05:49 (three months ago) Permalink

anyone else not love the celestial resort stages? there's just something about the rhythmic glob maneuvering that I can never quite get a handle on.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 13 July 2018 05:53 (three months ago) Permalink

If you can get locked in on the cycles it’s more fun.

devops mom (silby), Friday, 13 July 2018 06:00 (three months ago) Permalink


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