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so ok i grabbed an snes emulator and this absurd archive of every version of like every game ever.

i started dicking around with them and they were all irritating platform scrollers (except for the marios and dk countries which i like) irritating driving games (except for the micro machines one and the still so fucking good f-zero), fighters (of which the mighty morphin power rangers one is shockingly good), and those big long neverending rpgs which it'd take some for serious effort to get into. also, though, there was puyo-puyo and a few other lovely puzzlers.

anyway, given yr. selection of pretty much every snes cart ever, which would you actually pick as the ones worth putting some time into and playing with?

Secundus Covariant (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i know you mentioned rpgs, but Zelda III was superb and well worth the effort.

Krusty's Funhouse

The 'Super' Star Wars games

and that strange uni-cycle racing game.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm quite the fan of StarWing/Star Fox, though I've never had any idea what I'm doing. Also the Street Fighters/Mortal Kombats, which are superb conversions.

melton mowbray (adr), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ok:
Super Mario Kart
Actraiser
UN Squadron
SUPER METROID
Mega Man X
Yoshi's Island
Contra III
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

is super metroid really all that though?

try heberekes popoon

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

ah yes, that was the one I meant.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Try reading 80% of the other threads on this board already

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah there's a lot of SNES talk elsewhere, seems like 80% of the internet sometimes

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Super Metroid is so emphatically all that. There is a reason I put it in caps! If you've never played it, go get it asap. You're in for a treat. Missing this one is as bad or worse than missing Yoshi's Island.

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've never played Super Metroid, but I loooved the two GBA Metroid games. I think I may put the Xbox and Gamecube in storage for awhile and pull out the SNES and NES.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

JORDAN GO BUY SUPER METROID TODAY. You will be the complete opposite of sorry. I promise total gaming excellence.

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I guess I trust yr judgement laura... I'll hunt it down

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm definitely going to play it. I kind of like that it's out there waiting for me, since they may not make any more 2-d Metroid games.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

super

rio natsume, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

punch

rio natsume, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

out

rio natsume, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

FINAL FANTASY III

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Aw shit!

Is Super Punch out really good? I never played it (I didn't actually own a SNES until I got one for twenty bucks in college).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Legend of Zelda
Chrono Trigger
Mario RPG
Super Mario World 1 & 2
Pilotwings
FFIII

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Breath of Fire 1 & 2. I like the first Breath of Fire better than any of the Final Fantasies, I think.

I've half-heartedly tried to get into Super Metroid before, but the beginning seems boring and then stupid hard. Somebody school me as to why I should persevere?

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Super Metroid is at its heart a puzzle game: exploring and discovering new weapons/utilities/techniques and using them to pass unpassable areas or defeat enemies. If you're easily frustrated, or need a lot of sustained action, maybe it's not for you. You've got to spend time--a lot of it--wandering and experimenting and wandering again.

It sounds boring, except that it can be so incredibly rewarding when you finally crack the puzzle/beat the enemy and blaze triumphantly through to that unreachable door with your new grappling hook. Also, it's an enjoyable place to wander, especially as you progress and the world expands.

The weapons/utilities are awesome, and rationed out to you with good pacing throughout the game. Just when things start to get a little repetitive, along comes a cool new ability and the fun returns. Well designed enemies/bosses, some really great battles and dramatic JUMP moments, and an eerie, desolate ambience evoked by the music, graphics, and play control that does a pretty good job of convincing you that you are wandering half-weightless in a subterranean alien world.

The ending is perhaps the best game ending I have ever seen. If you win it once, you will probably want to do so again. It is eminently replayable, and... more than any concrete factor I can clearly articulate, I just love this game. I LOVE it.

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 19:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Have you played Metroid Fusion or Metroid Zero Hour, Laura? They're both gems, seriously.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Holy Shit I just remembered about CANNON FODDER if you have this = DUDE. The worst part is that your expendable little soldier guys actually get names and then they get promoted for surviving, also you have to watch the graveyard fill up as you fuck up and get people killed, but oh my god it's a ton of fun. Landmines and ambushes and being outnumbered a lot.

Jonathong would probably enjoy it! Permadeath and all that!
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1091287094-00.gif

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wow, that looks awesome. It makes me want to play Lemmings!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

hah I never think of cannon fodder as a SNES game but of course... it's great... you'll not want to let jools or jops die, I swear... made by sensible software, as well, dont you know

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xxxxpost
Never bought GBA, Jordan, but as soon as I get the DS...

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Blackthorne
Demon's Crest
Flashback
Pocky & Rocky
Shadowrun
Skyblazer
Space Megaforce
Sparkster
Super Bonk
Tetris Attack
Wild Guns
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

allenalenelnalenelnae (allenriley), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Super Metroid -- best game ever
Final Fantasy VI -- the first final fantasy worth playing
Chrono Trigger
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
A Link To the Past -- on some days, my favorite Zelda (on other days it's the original)
Super Mario Kart -- mainly for the 2 player mode
SimCity SNES -- the best Simcity, Miyamoto did some redesigning to it
Super Mario World -- I love the complex map, although it has the worst sprites ever
Super Punch-Out!!
Tetris Attack -- great main game, and puzzle mode is totally different and almost as great

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Thursday, 13 October 2005 00:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Blackthorne seconded, great combination of puzzling and shooting.

I'm going to have another crack at Super Metroid today.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ok yeah i'm totally getting into super metroid. the puzzle elements are great, the variety in the room, the urge to minimize running all around thos big messy maps, etc.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"is super metroid really all that though?"

YES

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

forgot to mention that i'm still shit at walljumps tho. i wonder if they're harder with a keyboard than a pad.

can't do the timing on bombjumps either.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Why is the SNES so good?

TOMBOT, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Perfect level of technology to create maximum fun + perfect controller?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I have a gig in Milwaukee tonight, and I'm picking mine up from my dad's house. The Xbox is going into the closet for awhile.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

anyone ever play shadowrun? I'd never heard of it till I read about it in this month's gamesTM

x-post

allen, what's it like?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I played it for Genesis, it was pretty crazy. Very open-ended...you're basically wandering around the streets looking for people to give you jobs that may or may not have anything to do with the "storyline". I never got very far, but I would try to break into office buildings that were way out of my league and see how far I could get. I don't think I ever "jacked in".

I'd like to play this again, I wonder if the SNES version is any different?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Shadowrun as far as i can remember is a cyberpunk rpg based on a pen and paper rpg maybe called shadowrun too. The mega drive and Snes ones were completely different games altogether but both rpgs, i think the mega drive one was better.

Jacking into the matrix was great but i was playing on an emulator and just cheated everytime i got killed by ICE, i think i'll go through it after i've finished FFT without doing that.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I HAVE TEH SNES.

Apparently I don't have shit for games though, all I could find was Super Mario World and SFII Turbo (and some crap like Flashback and Super Empire Strikes back). I'm looking forward to getting some of stuff mentioned in this thread.

(Okay, Flashback isn't crap, I just don't have the patience for it right now).

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

During an impromptu stopover at a coworkers' condo on Friday afternoon en route to Employee Relations Training I discovered that my wonky colleague has both the 8-bit and 16-bit NESes still in working order and that he also has nicely canonical collections of cartridges for each! Fuckin' blast from the past.

TOMBOT, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

EARTHBOUND. Tim Rogers' love letter to Shigesato Itoi is helpful in this regard.

litwack, Monday, 17 October 2005 19:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Secret of Manna
Whatever that fucking Unicyle game is called (er was it Unicycle?)
Sunset Riders

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

unirider

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That Tim Rogers post is really an excellent piece in that it makes the game seem about 500x better than I can recall any aspect of it being, the one time I tried it out on an emulator.

TOMBOT, Monday, 17 October 2005 20:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tom,
For me the game is amazing compared to the (relatively) humorless Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest games it followed. It doesn't hurt that Itoi was/is tight with Haruki Murakami; if you're a fan, Earthbound/Mother seems exactly the kind of game one of HM's protagonists would play.

litwack, Monday, 17 October 2005 20:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Was the Super Mario RPG on the SNES? I remember that game being tons of fun, but I havent been able to check it out again to see if Im right or if it really sucks.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It was on the Snes. Paper Mario was the follow up AND he was made of paper, that was N64. Paper Mario 2 is Gamecube, they are all incredible.

jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Uniracers, actually.

And Super Empire Strikes Back rules!

The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

How is Super Mario World 2? You never hear about that one.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

d00d thats oyshi island we talked about it

allenalenelnalenelnae (allenriley), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 05:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you can now hack this thing so it‘s a dual boot NES/SNES classic machine. neat.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 16 October 2017 19:35 (three months ago) Permalink

any way to hack it on mac (natively) yet?

||||||||, Monday, 16 October 2017 20:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Forget about the SNES Classic. Get the Analogue Super Nt. http://time.com/4981296/super-nt-release-date-preview/90 plus shipping.

This is the console I've been waiting for. It's the follow up to the Analogue Nt Mini which is an all-in-one console (8-bit generation and prior) for the hardcore gamer/collector/person that wants to stick a million roms on an SD Card. I'm going to wait and see if the Super Nt has a jailbreak for the entire 16-bit generation (and prior) before I order it.

The core designer, Kevtris, is an one-man powerhouse plowing through all the work on his own. Plus he's a perfectionist and all around nice guy. His thread is here on atariage.com.

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 00:30 (two months ago) Permalink

fixed
*Forget about the SNES Classic. Get the Analogue Super Nt. $190 plus shipping

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 00:33 (two months ago) Permalink

**oops wrong link, fuck go here---> http://time.com/4981296/super-nt-release-date-preview/

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 00:34 (two months ago) Permalink

lol the writing in that time.com thing is aneurysm inducing

There's another Super Nintendo on the block, and this one means business.

Not the lucrative sort Nintendo's sold out Super NES Classic seems to be doing as availability bulletins circulate like whispers of a ghost. Nor the steady sort Nintendo's handheld 3DS has been up to for years, dishing up choice SNES downloads by way of its Virtual Console. But business the way an audio engineer means when retooling decades-old tunes for playback on modern audio hardware. Or as a film preservationist does when cleaning and converting acetate film to digital ones and zeroes.

It's called the Super Nt, plays some of the medium's most treasured games (like Super Mario World and The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past), and judging from the literature its Seattle-based boutique hardware-maker sent over, it's poised to be a Super Nintendo nonpareil

sleepingbag, Friday, 20 October 2017 00:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I browsed through 6 or 7 articles and that was the only one with expressive language that matched my excitement. I couldn't read it in one go but in bits between looking up at the tv.

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 04:37 (two months ago) Permalink

> that wants to stick a million roms on an SD Card.

Oh, do these things do that? I always got the impression they were just designed to play the original physical carts rather than roms.

JimD, Friday, 20 October 2017 10:54 (two months ago) Permalink

“The Super NT also includes an SD card slot, ostensibly for firmware updates; however, shortly after releasing the NT mini, Horton released a jailbroken firmware unofficially, which supports ROM playback and, most notably, new “core” support. After 12 releases, culminating in the 2.0 firmware, the NT mini simulates everything from the Atari 7800, the Sega Master System, and the original Game Boy to lesser-known consoles like the Channel F and Adventurevision. Horton’s decades spent decoding the intricacies of video game hardware found a readily available home in the NT mini, and the Super NT should be similar.“

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 11:25 (two months ago) Permalink

judging from the literature its Seattle-based boutique hardware-maker sent over

luv2breathlessly recycle marketing materials as copy

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 October 2017 11:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh wow, yeah these are much more tempting then than the way they're marketed would suggest.

JimD, Friday, 20 October 2017 11:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah a pinnacle 16-bit system that is $260 less than the pinnacle 8-bit system

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 11:37 (two months ago) Permalink

lol at the way they described a FPGA in the press release, though

mh, Friday, 20 October 2017 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

flowery, but good to know. i didn't realize myself this was hardware simulation vs. software emulation

Nhex, Friday, 20 October 2017 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean the reason you'd ship it with a FPGA is to simulate different processors, but their marketing only mentions the one

The other reason would be that you don't think you'd sell enough, or actually having chips manufactured would run afoul of actually licensing. Generally a FPGA is used when you're designing a chip. If your intention was to make it run exactly like one specific processor, then... use your FPGA instructions to have someone manufacture that processor

mh, Friday, 20 October 2017 15:37 (two months ago) Permalink

The marketing only mentioned NES for the 8-bit Analogue NT Mini but all the other early systems were casually dumped on the internet via jailbreak firmware from Analogue’s coder himself (Kevtris). As for licensing on things like the super fx chip there might be workarounds in writing code differently and providing the same result. I fully expect the Super Nt to get jailbreak firmware for Genesis, Turbografx 16, and Neo Geo. I hope it includes all the 8-bit and prior cores as well.

Nevertheless, I can wait til Febuary to find out more.

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:26 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

just got one from amazon.fr via stockinformer, thanks jimd

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 November 2017 17:38 (two months ago) Permalink

they always alert me just in time for me to miss it

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 6 November 2017 18:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Ha you’re welcome. Been playing Micro Machines on mine this week, and enjoying it more than mariokart.

JimD, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh man I forgot about Micro Machines, that's a definite reason to hack. Are there any drawbacks? Was it easy enough?

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:36 (two months ago) Permalink

It was astoundingly easy, to the extent that it's ridiculous to even call it a hack. It was easier than adding songs to my second gen ipod was! Hackchi is pretty lovely, it'll even do things like auto-googling box art for the menus.

Drawbacks I guess are that a) not everything works (but hackchi warns you which games won't and lets you decide not to add them), b) the interface isn't designed for huge lists of games, which forces you to use subfolders, which is just slightly clunky. Not a massive deal at all though.

It's also possible to install other emulators so that the games which otherwise don't work become playable, the software also offers to do this for you, haven't tried that yet though.

JimD, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I probably mentioned it? I've got one with a custom interface skin that resembles the NES Classic. Was very fun to curate.

Evan, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

any update on hacking this for people using a mac (without parallels etc)?

||||||||, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I got one! A little Christmas gift to myself. Never heard of Earthbound in all my time as a console enthusiast. What's the deal with that?

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Thursday, 21 December 2017 10:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Are you from Earth?

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:41 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Between the poor sales and the phasing out of the Super NES, the game did not receive a European release.

I came across it 15/20 years later via the internet

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 December 2017 13:38 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i remember reading about it in super play and i'm looking forward to playing it nearly 25 years later

( had my snes classic shipped to family in the UK from amazon.fr, so i don't actually have mine yet)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:55 (four weeks ago) Permalink

it's the best

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:25 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I play Earthbound once a year, like a digital hajj.

Wes Brodicus, Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:45 (four weeks ago) Permalink

im on earth btw

infinity (∞), Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I'm on my way there

Evan, Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:43 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I did the next level of mod on this thing today, which is installing retroarch. Now it plays all the SNES games (including ones the built in emulator didn’t support) but also all the NES and Gameboy and GBA and, man, it’s pretty amazing (it’ll also do non-Nintendo consoles and n64 but I’m sticking with these for now)

JimD, Thursday, 21 December 2017 23:23 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i read about it in super play and played it on emulator in the early 2000s. it's very good, one of the best games on SNES

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 December 2017 23:33 (four weeks ago) Permalink

do the pads on this feel like an actual snes?

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 22 December 2017 07:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

is jailbreaking it more or less work than setting up a raspberry pi?

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 22 December 2017 07:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Raspberry pi is at least an evening’s work, this is 20 minutes. And requires a lot less know how. Even installing the extra emulator was literally “download the zip, drag it over to the hackchi window, drop it, click ok”.

And I think the pads feel right? Although I’ve never used a brand new SNES pad before so can’t say for sure, the d-pads do feel stiff but I’m guessing that’s normal.

JimD, Friday, 22 December 2017 09:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah the pads are pretty close to a new SNES. had a few sessions w this and it felt exactly like playing og hardware.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 December 2017 16:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Are there wireless controllers available for the SNES? The cords are sort of a dealbreaker for me

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 22 December 2017 18:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I've got one of the those 8bitdos. The d-pad is a little loose but it's otherwise fantastic, and the bluetooth wireless feature is great.

Evan, Friday, 22 December 2017 19:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Oh wait that's a newer one than I have in that link. I wonder how it compares.

Evan, Friday, 22 December 2017 19:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm addicted to Earthbound. It's wonderful. Kind of wish we had a separate thread for it, but I don't know what the point of it would be...

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 09:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

spooky shit in earthbound

JimD, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

SNES classic finally available at walmart.com right now. I should probably snag it...
...welp it disappeared in the time it took me to write this post, good job me

Nhex, Monday, 8 January 2018 19:11 (one week ago) Permalink

time to re-examine yr priorities dude

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 8 January 2018 19:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah. Snag first write post AFTER

Evan, Monday, 8 January 2018 19:25 (one week ago) Permalink

i know! such shame ;_;

Nhex, Monday, 8 January 2018 20:23 (one week ago) Permalink

got one

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:37 (yesterday) Permalink


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