What's the best Zelda game then?

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Not before April 2006.

Sigh.

Anyway, I just finished Minish Cap, which was pretty awesome, although about half as long as I expected it to be. (It was silly of me to expect that.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 23 April 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm at the last boss in Minish Cap (Vaati in the Dar Hyrule castle). I am useless ay playing bosses, and on the DS it is rotten, my thumbs get all cramped up and I get cranky :(

Windwaker is gorgeous, not just because the cel shading looks great but the music! The new tunes are lilting, sweet, seaworthy lovliness.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Er scuse shitty typos.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:15 (eighteen years ago) link

loved the style of wind waker, partly because it pissed off all the lamers who were pining for 'realistic' link, but ocarina is still the best.

the water temple level = best use of "3D" I've encountered in a game.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Sunday, 23 April 2006 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Trayce, that's where I got to! I never beat him though :(

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Sunday, 23 April 2006 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

When it's like that, a series of like three bosses and then you have to beat the main boss a few times, I head straight for the walkthroughs. There's nothing fun about having to do all that a few dozen times just to figure out what you're supposed to do.

It did do a number on my fingers on the DS, bah.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha OTM. A week or so ago a friend and I completed Eternal Darkness in one 12 hour sitting and 2 hours the next day. The last two hours was spent on the last boss, before we decided to check walkthroughs. It wasn't just that we didn't know what to do - it was that we couldn't skip the cutscenes either, making retrying over and over again a complete thorn in the balls.

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

and yes, i agree with trayce, the visuals are totally gorgeous and the music is great too.

i love the way this game looks.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 23 April 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh I was reading a gamefaq for the last Vaati bossfite in minish cap, and going "oh ok... hit the eyes, then bash him... wtf then the eyes shoot freakin LAZER BEAMS... ok shit... then ... wtf I have to fight a BIGGER vaati? THEN ANOTHER ONE? Eff this shit... NIICK CAN YOU DO THIS BOSS FOR ME PLS I AM A GIRL".

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 24 April 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha my post up there was a "response" to an apparently misplaced post on ILC.

MY, WAS THAT REVENGE SWEET.

What I've played of Ocarina struck me as pedestrian and mundane, but Wind Waker is damn lovely because it's so twee and classic-looking. I think I mentioned elsewhere that the dialogue for WW was among the best that I've encountered in a video game. The final ending had me choking up!

c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 24 April 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Vaati wasn't really nearly as bad as the 3 fucking darknuts with the time limit in the room before him. I had to go find all the remaining sword brothers and basically just spin like crazy to beat those mother fuckers in time. After that, Vaati, I beat him in like 2 tries! I really like the puzzler-style bosses in Minish Cap, running around shrinking and growing and using like 3 different weapons to finish the job. Once you get the combination it's all just dodging anyway.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

(I think Terranigma for the SNES and Strider on MAME are where I finally got rid of my urge to try and beat boss characters with any degree of speed. I will sit there and dodge fireballs in a corner for 6 or 7 rounds if I can't get the right hit in the right place in time. Whites of their eyes etc.)

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Vaati wasn't really nearly as bad as the 3 fucking darknuts with the time limit in the room before him

TOTALLY. I always lose 80% of my health fighting those bastards, even with the bonus giant spin attack! And so then fighting vaati with fuckall health is hopeless :(

I am, I must add, pretty shite at eye-hand co-ord tho.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude, I never beat that game because I couldn't get past those fucking dudes. I've never even seen the last boss!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Stay out of the corners. run from side to side through the 3 of them bunched together if you can, that way you only get hit once instead of 2/3 times. You're going to lose a lot of hearts, that's why you pack 3 full bottles of potion! Spin attack is all there is to it, with rushes in between to get behind them afterwards.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously guys I blow at games. what's the deal?

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Use the "time delay" bombs against the Darknuts. I found that was a good way to get rid of the first two, at least. Also, try to have all four bottles.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, why were fairies in bottles so useless in this game? Bah!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah they only give you back a few hearts instead of full health, poohs.

I'll try that tactic you suggest Tom, sounds like it might help.

If my hand doesnt fall of first that is - Ive been getting shooting pains in my right hand recently heh meep.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Argh "fall off".

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Zeldaaaa! The only reason I still have my Gamecube. For the new game, and because one day I plan on finishing Majora's Mask finally...

It's not a game you can come back to after a month, or even a week, because it takes about a day to remember what the fuck you're supposed to be doing. It is an amazing game though.

I accidentally wiped my Ocarina save, as well, just before I got to the end.

People can go on about Wind Waker being easy and simple compared to past Zelda's all they wish, but I can honestly say I probably haven't had such a pleasant experience just playing through a game hardly ever. I think it was one of the first times I played a game where everything seemed to fit, in a lot of ways. It was so totally immersive in a "oh, this is how games should look!" because it just seems so much more successful to create a world like that rather than one of giant people getting in tiny cars and driving around mini cities.

I hated the last boss of Minish Cap, it took me a while to beat him, and really infuriated me. I lent the game to a friend of mine once, and they got stuck on the last boss and asked me to try. Which was daunting, because after beating the game I'd been like "HA! I don't have beat you EVER AGAIN! YOU COCK!". I was drunk at the time, and couldn't remember what I was supposed to do, lost practically all my health on the first section, but still ended up beating him. It was my proudest gaming moment, and I in no way drunkenly re-enacted it whilst pretending to Link later on in the night.

In no way did that happen.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 27 April 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh wow that was all babble. BABBLE!!!

DS Zelda looks so pretty. I need to remember to stop leaving my DS at people's houses.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 27 April 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

my only complaint about wind waker is NOT ENOUGH EMPTY BOTTLES. it kinda makes all that jelly and seed gathering pointless.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 April 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

There are four, like in every other Zelda game, no?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 28 April 2006 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess i haven't played a zelda in like a billion years!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link

waitaminute since when are there FOUR in every game? I only ever manage to find three, and usually only if I read a FAQ.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link

you could get four in zelda 3! i think there was a even a little designated 2x2 space on the inventory screen for them. or 1x4.

sleep (sleep), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i stopped minish cap at the last boss. it didn't seem like the ending was going to do anything interesting.

i also gave up wind waker earlier this year, due to i) annoying bugs like not recognising that i have the right kind of arrow to get to a particular island ii) annoyance at the whole pirate girl is zelda, is a girl, therefore is useless at everything bit. what with her saving yr ass several times before she turns out to be zelda. (which also = oh, didn't see that coming.)

tom west (thomp), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link

There are four bottles in Ocarina, Wind Waker, Minish Cap...

How is Zelda/pirate useless at everything again?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I would have to rate Link to the Past #1, with Ocarina coming in second. Four bottles in all of them, as far as I can recall!

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Bugs in windwaker? Cant say I ever heard Nick bitch about that, and he usually does loudly heh.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, could you be a bit more specific, Tom?

Mind you I didn't see the identity of Zelda coming, they did quite a nice fake with the little rich girl there.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 30 April 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

of course the correct answer is:

LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE PHANTOM HOURGLASS

...

forthcoming on DS, with wind waker-style visuals (!!!)

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 30 April 2006 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

... also replete with sailing

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 30 April 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link

WHY DOES IT SOUND LIKE A HARRY POTTER BOOK.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Curt1s OTFM

melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Links Awakening is the one on the Gameboy yeah? That's my favourite.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 30 April 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Funniest thing evar: playing Super Smash Bros Melee, on the wildcard level (or whatever its called) and selecting as your 2 characters for fite: Link and Zelda.

Proceed to have Link beat the crap out of Zelda: "send ME all around Hyrule slaying monsters because you're always getting kidnapped and locked in dungeons! I'll show YOU who the beeyatch is!" *smack kick bash slash etc etc*

Oh, we did laugh.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 30 April 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

You are a huge loser.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Coming from you, that is a compliment! Cheers! :D

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 May 2006 04:48 (eighteen years ago) link

PS get one sense of joek.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 May 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

http://stout.hampshire.edu/~bjk02/princess/

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys are TOTALLY long-lost brother and sister.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 1 May 2006 05:15 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG shutup! :0

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 May 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

as the pirate girl she saves yr ass two-three times, then she's revealed to be zelda, it's taken for granted that she's to be left LOCKED UNDER THE SEA while you go off and have adventures, then gets kidnapped? kinda lame.

x posts bcz i don't check this board v often oops.

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

When's the last time you were saved by a princess? OTOH, I can't count how often I've been saved by lady pirates.

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Zelda 2 is massively underrated.

― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:20 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ this dude knows what's up

******* (Lamp), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

replayed the first three zeldas this weekend and link to the past is apparently ingrained in my muscle memory now!? total cliche to bemoan remembering where all the keys in the misery mire are but then not remember w/e relevant to yr actual life but, still, true. kind of robbed the game of any feeling of real accomplishment like a doing a crossword puzzle with the answer key in front of you.

zelda 2 rpg elements are clever w/o being too much of a concession to what is a challenging action game. pretty genious level design too.

******* (Lamp), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved having to search the map for hidden p-bags etc -- broke the tedium of level grinding

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm playing through Zelda on the wii. Excellent game so far and I'm a little more than halfway through.
The epicness of flute boy on the classic SNES zelda game has yet to be recreated. I was like damn, the poor kid turned to stone and is doomed to forever be stone. They don't make those kind of subplots anymore. I will always say SNES version is the best Zelda release but the Wii version is definitely worth checking out. It trumps the gamecube and n64 links imo. Well, it barely beats Ocarina of Time and I never played Majora's Mask, but the boss battles are much more fun now.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link


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