the I AM BEATING ALL THE ZELDAS thread

I've never played more than the first like 10 minutes of Majora's Mask, I would try again, but the N64 is at my mom's house. Maybe I should just go ahead and get the GC compilation thing?

first one (title?)
second one(?)
Minish Cap
Four Swords

Also Link's Awakening is awesome, and kind of trippy in a way that none of the other ones I've played were.

easiest zelda = minish cap

both were massive treats though.

best gameboy game ever.

not a treat - trying to get a perfect 50 @ the shooting gallery for a stupid fucking piece of gaywad heart.

My least favorite is that wormy guy in Link To The Past that would knock you off his floor and you'd have to climb back up there, by which time he was completely healed.

outside of zelda 2, i dislike "headthwomp" from oracle of ages. it's a "try everything" boss which takes awhile to beat even after you figure out the method.
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i finally got 'round to playing four swords adventure for the gc. it is not quite as sick as i predicted upthread, but it's a good fun. it's set in a link to the past hyrule but with smooth updated graphics. instead of being abke to free roam, the game is divided into levels. also there is no inventory, and you can only hold one item at once. still, it is pretty cute the way that when you enter a building or cave a gba screen appears and you wander around inside that. you're meant to plug a gba in but i don't have one.

there is definitely more longevity in this than there is in children of mana. i like slash'n'hacks or whatever but that was so wack.

i beat all the zeldas btw

verdict: they sukk

Zelda - beat it many times
Zelda 2 - oh fuck off (but I got close)
Link to the Past - beat it many times
Awakening/Oracles/Minish/whatever - fuck a game boy
Ocarina - beat it, yawn
Majora - sorry, I sold my N64 by this time lol
Wind Waker - beat it, yawn
Twilight - beat it on Gamecube, can't find a Wii, still yawn
Phantom - ok I can actually see the DS screen so I'll try it.

oh and never played four swords

actually i havent played the Wii zelda yet or any of the handheld ones. i didnt even finish majora's mask until a few months ago (i started it last fall), and then i beat wind waker in a couple weeks. wind waker was easily the most DISAPPOINTING of the ones i played, maybe i was just expecting too much from it. it was gorgeous and the sword-fightin is real good but everything else is not very fun :'( majora's mask otoh is probably tied with LttP for best ever zelda though, what a grate game~

yeah lots of people seem to think Majora is the best 3D Zelda, I'll check it out sometime

twilight princess is possibly the best game I've ever played.

people who have not played minish cap are missing out

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i'm not completely sure but i think part of why I didnt enjoy WW was because I am a horse's ass. it starts out wonderfully but after you get to sail around it actually gets worse. at least for me. i think this is because i am so anal and i absolutely HAVE TO collect every heart container, upgrade, every secret cave, etc etc, and in this game the map is split up into around 50 sectors, and to map them you have to track down a single fish in each quadrant and feed it bait, at which point it will map that sector. sailing from one side of the map to the other feels like it takes 40 minutes, and you don't get a means of instant transport until way later in the game.

in the other games i kind of enjoyed doing this stuff tho, and when it got to be tiresome i would just move on to a dungeon, which is obvs the funnest part. but the dungeons and bosses in WW were really unmemorable (except for the ganon fight which is tremendous). not having the pirate girl play a bigger role was a big misstep too. in conclusion fuck zelda~

(i cant wait to play twilight princess tho)

the funnest parts of WW were the pointless minigames like this battleship-style carnival game and a series of slide puzzles (!) that are super low tech but i guess really absorbing to me since i've never done any before. the sword fighting is really really cool but almost too easy sometimes since you can just beat everyone by waiting until they're about to attack and hit 'A' for the dodge-and-counter move.

oh and of course it is really really beautiful and just watching link's idle animations is v. satisfying. having everything spread out over an ocean is interesting bcz it makes the environment seem a lot more cohesive and natural than zelda games normally do, where they have a cluttered sandbox feel and 20 different kinds of locales (swamp, snow, desert) are stacked on top of each other, but it's also kind of boring and desolate~

presumably people have seen these?

Ha ha, I forgot to mention that the ONE thing that my new puppy destroyed when we brought her into the house was my Zelda Twilight Princess disc. Never got much further than midpoint.

well your life has got a big fucking hole in it then

seriously I don't mind the go'n fetchit quest style, and as much as I understand the shortcomings/patronizing nature of the whole "dedicated hardware" puzzle design - I loved TP, the same way I'm learning to love OoT and I expect to love WW - it's like some kind of hogwarts/middle earth shit, the universe is just consistent enough that I love it, it seems familiar, when I play one of these games, I get a sense of home borne from 3rd-grade escapism. It's something I don't think any other franchise has, frankly - it's not even possible to touch it. Link is a hero for no other reason than the fact that he goes into impossible situations again and again with no guarantee of survival; playing as Link, you feel kind of the same way, except it's a game, and you have a save file from only a few minutes back.

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you could rewrite that review to be about any videogame ever made. I honestly don't understand the perspective at all unless perhaps the linearity of Zelda is too obvious to some people, cf tycho's remarks about the uselessness of the phrase "on rails"

http://www.archive.org/details/history-of-zelda-courtesy-of-zentendo

I watched the first half or so of this last night. It's really interesting. A fan translated, japanese documentary from a few years ago on the the history of Zelda. I downloaded the mp4 file (which took about an hour and a half), but the quality is really good.

you could rewrite that review to be about any videogame ever made.

so not true. the 3D Zeldas pull a very specific type of bullshit on you that even Zelda clones like Okami don't bother with. Some people still find it fresh and exciting, some people just don't get a huge boner for it anymore.

NB: I'm still enough of a Zelda fan to have dutifully played through 3 out of 4 3D Zeldas, but the days of Zelda games I could replay 10 times without getting bored are long gone.

wait, you played TP before OOT or WW? ok, you're excused. If I had played TP first I would think it was the best shit ever too. Kind of wish I would have.

Just replayed and beat Link to the Past because of this thread. I had never actually beaten it... I got to the Lost Woods in the Dark World and quit the last time around (I was probably 13 or younger at the time). If only I had stayed with it. The game is almost over at that point.

the hole in my life is mostly filled by pitbull pup; this first month of pet ownership has KILLED my videogame time.

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yeah lots of people seem to think Majora is the best 3D Zelda

I haven't played any of the ones since MM, but I'd go so far as to say it might be the best Zelda, period. The time-travel gimmick drove me NUTS at first, but you gradually settle into the rhythm of it, and, I dunno, it's just such an incredibly rich world. I may just overstate the case because it's annoying that OOT gets so much more recognition; I realize the system was a dying platform by the time MM hit, but it's SO MUCH BETTER than OOT on almost every level. More to do in more fleshed-out areas = more fun. Virtually every cool, memorable thing from my time playing the N64 Zeldas is from MM, and while it does have its share of really annoying sequences, each has a counterpart in OOT so, yeah. Great goddamn game.

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zelda 1: total classic. although the second quest is too hard without maps
zelda 2: eh it's ok. the life system was a step back
alttp: my favorite altho they started adding too much text with this entry
awakening: good but very similar gameplay-wise to lttp. maybe the best green&white gameboy game.
ocarina of time: eh I don't get the acclaim of this one, it's a small step back from lttp in that there are fewer puzzles, and much of the challenge is in getting used to the 3d world.
oracle of ages/seasons: these were ok. not much reason to exist though
minish cap: i remember fuck all about this one. it had stealth sections i think? developed by capcom wtf
majora's mask: never got very far in it, the day cycle kind of ticks me off. i'll get back to it.
wind waker: awesome map, i loved sailing around doing useless sidequests. "useless" because i bet i could beat it with the original 3 hearts and no upgrades. cramming all the towns into one huge town was a good idea.
4 swords: never played it
twilight princess: SNOOZE. first time a console zelda is completely redundant.
phantom hourglass: YES! this gets rid of lots of crap the series has accumulated (heart pieces and compasses for starters) and adds in fun if simple mapmaking. the ending ties into the ending of awakening too. the bad: sailing is boring and ugly

i'd like to mention again how ridiculously verbose the dialogue scripts have gotten. i'd trade faerie helpers for OLD MANs any day.

Yeah, HUGE minus to the N64 versions for the addition of all the chitchat, also, Tingle.

I should add that I think Adventure of Link is the only one I've singlehandedly beat the entire way through. This remains my crowning gamer accomplishment, some seventeen-odd years later.

twilight princess: SNOOZE. first time a console zelda is completely redundant.

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turns out my zelda opinions are pretty vanilla and mainstream:
zelda 1: never played this. no intention to.
zelda 2: ditto. looks rubbish.
alttp: awesome, gold from start to finish, really odd touches here and there (you turn into a rabbit wtf), and still solid today
awakening: never played this either : /.
ocarina of time: amazing best game ever ftw etc I actually do really like OoT, however much time has dulled that a bit - it looked amazing at the time, and I played it clean through when it was released. epic, really. plus it had the goron sword side-quest which was great!
oracle of ages/seasons: never played. sitting on my m3 ds simply waiting to be played. won't get round to it.
minish cap: brilliant. just slight enough but with enough new touches (the 'stealth' bits were well done) and it looked GREAT
majora's mask: ditto what alan said: "never got very far in it, the day cycle kind of ticks me off. i'll get back to it."
wind waker: undisputably gorgeous. but dear god, the sailing. I completed this and can barely remember a thing about it. speaks volumes.
4 swords: never played it, don't intend to
twilight princess: played like an hour and gave up. couldn't understand wtf was going on and then when I left it and came back to it, I just couldn't get out of the area I was in. wtf.
phantom hourglass: never played all that much but will get round to. stylus control was fiddly tho; but it looked great again!

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I haven't played any of the ones since MM, but I'd go so far as to say it might be the best Zelda, period. The time-travel gimmick drove me NUTS at first, but you gradually settle into the rhythm of it, and, I dunno, it's just such an incredibly rich world. I may just overstate the case because it's annoying that OOT gets so much more recognition; I realize the system was a dying platform by the time MM hit, but it's SO MUCH BETTER than OOT on almost every level. More to do in more fleshed-out areas = more fun. Virtually every cool, memorable thing from my time playing the N64 Zeldas is from MM, and while it does have its share of really annoying sequences, each has a counterpart in OOT so, yeah. Great goddamn game.

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this is super otm btw, MM is still the greatest zeldas and also WW sux

admin suggestion: come up with a script that automatically yellowcards anyone who ever links to an actionbutton review (esp those by tim rogers)

I have just realised that new Wii + getting Majora's Mask on a bonus Gamecube disc with Twilight Princess = Happy days will be here again (once I've finished all the happy days that come with a new Wii (including Okami which yeah, bears a certain resemblance))!

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Is the bonus Majora's disc part of the Twilight Princess disc or is it a separate one? I 'finished' Majora's Mask in the sense of completing the dungeons and bosses and stuff but I'm still missing a bunch of masks. I'd happily play through the game again for the sake of completing it fully, but I already have Twilight Princess...

And yeah, another vote here for Majora's Mask as best Zelda evvaarrrr

it's a separate one. i got a promo disc that had the first four zelda games all on one gc disc. i'm not sure if can with the wii or with twilight princess tbh. i posted in one of the other zelda threads a couple of weeks ago about doing just this - i decided to play through all the zeldas in order before starting twilight princess.

i still think zelda II is one of the best in the series. its a pretty perfect mix of challenge and fun and i like that it doesn't ever really even attempt to make any sense. its probably the most rewarding one to beat too. windwhatever it def the brain-dead supermodel of the franchise.

i love the braindead supermodel

i still think zelda II is one of the best in the series.

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I'm kind of terrified about what you have to do for a red!

in eight bit colour the weapon link's brandishing there doesn't look a whole lot like a sword

a pork sword, maybe

WTF guys Twilight Princess is fucking incredible...some of the most fun items of the entire series (SPOILER omg the spinner! double hookshot!). Also some of the story parts where it changes style totally (the ride on the monster's back up through the river to Zora waterfall OMG)! Hooray! Also I could and have spent long periods of time just farting around in the fishing hole. AND it has a very satisfying ending!

I've been playing Zelda 2 only this time on an emulator w/ save state and have gotten much farther than I ever had before. It is a HARD game. The whole ducking stabbing shielding battle thing is much more fun now.

I haven't played many of the Zelda games after Link to the Past, but I don't really get the hate for Wind Waker. I really enjoyed it!

There were a few things I didn't like throughout Wind Waker, but overall I enjoyed it too! The only reason I have any rage towards it is because I thought it was too short, and would've happily played through a few more dungeons.

Also, that bit in Wind Waker when your ship sinks under the Tower and you're taken to the giant room that's all in ruins and everything is in black and white is one of my favourite, most memorable Zelda scenes evarrr

Count me in for Wind Waker love, too. Hell, I'll even go so far to say that I when WW came out, I played that and Ocarina of Time back to back, and greatly prefered WW - both aesthetically and gameplay-wise. While a lot of people complained about the sailing, I found it very calming and gorgeous. That black and white moment you mention was breathtaking. Do agree though that the game could have used a couple more dungeons.

Ironically, I think due to the stylistic look it does and will hold up better in the future than OoT/MM, which feel and look rather primitive now, not to take anything away from their innovation at the time.

No, that makes sense. The Oot/MM style could be any game, really, but the stuff in Wind Waker stands out a lot more. Other things I like about WW style: the way enemies disappear in fancy colourful curly smoke puffs and Link's facial expressions! I think when I get my wii back I'll have to play through some of this again, or at least carry on with the side quests I forgot about.