FIFA 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTEH5PfpM_A

"Jogging
When jogging with the ball FIFA10 will give you full 360 degree control, when requesting a turn you will get exactly the angle you input on the left stick. One note on this however is that for turns less than 22.5 degrees (22.5 degrees may sound like an odd limit but this is basically 360 / 16 ) you will not get a turn immediately. Instead he will make the small adjustment the next time he catches up to the ball. This is because we don't want your player to constantly be playing a turn animation as this will affect the fluidity of the dribble and also affect pass responsiveness as we do not allow you to pass while you are about to touch the ball in a dribble turn.

The effect of this is that FIFA10 feels more fluid and you can now beat defenders, protect the ball and ultimately make plays that you could not before.

Skilled Dribbling
Like jogging, skilled dribble is fully 360 degree though the real power of the feature is really in the sideways movement.

Sprinting
The affect on sprinting is slightly different from jogging. The reason for this is that when sprinting your momentum dictates that you cannot adjust your body to perform the same turns that you can when jogging. In FIFA10 the range of turn that we allow when sprinting is ANY angle from 0 degrees to 22.5 degrees (plus 180), this is different from 09 as in that game we could only turn 0 or 22.5 left or 22.5 right.

Again, the reason we do not allow full 360 in sprinting is that it is just not physically possible to turn say 94 degrees and stay at sprint speed. Obviously if you did want to perform a 94 degree turn you could release the sprint button and the player would perform a 'Sprint to Jog' turn that would satisfy your pad angle request and turn 94 degrees or whatever angle you were requesting.

The result of this is that you can finely adjust your sprint direction in order to not lose so much momentum when turning and potentially get away from a defender without slowing down and getting tackled like you would in 09.

Hopefully I have explained that clearly, its difficult without diagrams"

To say that EA's forthcoming football game looks promising is a chronic understatement; it looks absolutely amazing. The best thing you could say about FIFA 10 is that It's a massive improvement on its predecessor. This accolade is thrown into even sharper relief when one considers that FIFA 09 was the game that established EA's dominance over Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer franchise. FIFA 09 was quite simply the best football game of last year, and the fact that it hardly holds a candle to FIFA 10 is mind-boggling.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/6029958/FIFA-10-video-game-preview.html

EG hands-on

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/fifa-10-extended-hands-on

developer explains 360 dribbling

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-10-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/781847-fifa10-360-degree-dribbling.html

I don't see how this can be anything other than great.

FIFA gameplay
gamersyde.com/news_gamescom_fifa_10_gameplay-8395_en.html

PES
http://gamersyde.com/news_gamescom_pes2010_gameplay-8396_en.html

FIFA looking a lot better as expected. can't see much of the return of the king in the PES video, to me it looks like nothing's improved on the animations since the first nextgen version. faces still looking better in PES though.

how the hell does messi cross that ball w/the outside of his foot?!

http://blogs.ign.com/EA_FIFA/2009/08/20/127184/

You scan your own face in from the Internet, customise your player with different skills, long bomb throw-ins and goal celebrations and you can automatically search for clubs that need players, or play in 10vs10 BAP tryout matches to get scouted by managers of online clubs

I for one welcome our new Canadian soccerball overlords

just came here to post that

I am scanning my face as I type this

do I want to be a left back y/n?

LEFT BACK IN THE CHANGING ROOM! AMIRITE LOL

http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/fifa-10-championship-managers?page=0%2C0

http://www.edge-online.com/files/imagecache/article_content_360x270/fifa1_0.jpg

david rutter is my hero

Demo on 10th September.

are you going to give it a try again this year, roberto? I promise no trolling!

hey, i try both every year. i just want a decent footie game. i get irked by EA/FIFA having the games press in their pocket so i root for PES, but i will buy the better game. the response to FIFA09 just spun my head around because i played the shit out of that demo before PES09 came out and it seemed pretty horrendous to me. this PES is better than it has been for a few years but it has a few annoying gameplay tics and the menus are still utter dump so i would be delighted if EA put out a decent game.

the only fifa games I ever played prior to last year were fifa & fifa '95 on megadrive and road to the world cup on N64 and I'd never owned a fifa. conversely, I've probably owned (and at least played) every iteration of PES/ISS since iss & iss deluxe on the SNES (barring the japanese winning elevens). I think PES actually looks OK this year and might pick it up if I can get it cheap; I'd definitely go for the PS3 version though, don't think it controls well w/the 360 pad. I'm really excited about FIFA (well as excited as a grown man can get abt a videogame) cos of the new jostling and 360 control; though I'm not sure you'll like it if you didn't take to 09. it's a similar engine, from what I can tell, but refined. snow leopard, if u want; all accounts so far are that it's 100 times better than 09 tho, but that's standard for the yearly run-up to these games' release I kno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhRCjcUPqa8

f there's one question asked of the FIFA 10 team more than any other, it's what's happening with the stadiums - and the weather options inside them - for the new game everyone's so excited about.

You asked, we answered. Check it all out below...

NEW STADIUMS

Bernabeau (Free Download On Launch Day)
New Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain

Estadio Chamartin
New Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

Court Lane
New Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Day Snow

Arena D'oro
New Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain

EXISTING STADIUMS

Old Trafford
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Stade Gerland
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk
New Weather: Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

San Siro
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk
New Weather: Night Clear, Night Rain

Camp Nou
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk
New Weather: Night Clear, Night Rain

Stadio Delle Alpi
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk

Signal Iduna Park
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain,
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Bay Arena
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Anfield
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Rain, Day Snow, Night Snow

Parc Des Princes
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain

Square Ground
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

Stamford Bridge
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain, Day Snow, Night Snow

Stade Velodrome
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk
New Weather: Night Clear, Night Rain

Veltins-Arena
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear

Crown Lane
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Euro Arena
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain,
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Town Park
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Day Snow

Euro Park
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Snow, Dusk
New Weather: Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

HSH Nordbank Arena
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Night Snow

Estadio Vicente Calderon
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk

St James Park
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Rain, Day Snow, Night Snow

Estadio Azteca
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk

Olympiastadion
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Day Snow

Allianz Arena
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Night Snow

Stadion Europa
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Stade Kokoto
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk

Aloha Park
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk

Wembley Stadium
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Night Snow

Emirates
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Night Snow

Stadio Olimpico
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

Estadio De Las Artes
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain
New Weather: Day Snow, Night Snow

Olimipico Generico
Weather: Day Cloudy, Day Rain, Dusk
New Weather: Day Snow

Estadio Del Pueblo
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain

Fussballstadion
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain
New Weather: Day Snow

El Reducto
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear, Night Rain

Stadion Neder
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain
New Weather: Day Snow

Stade Municipal
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Snow
New Weather: Day Rain, Night Clear, Night Rain, Night Snow

Ivy Lane
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Snow
New Weather: Dady Rain

Estadio Latino
Weather: Day Sunny, Dusk
New Weather: Night Clear, Night Rain

Stadion 23. Maj
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain
New Weather: Day Snow

El Medio
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear
New Weather: Night Rain

El Bombastico
Weather: Day Sunny, Night Clear
New Weather: Night Rain

Stadio Classico
Weather: Day Sunny

Football Ground
Weather: Day Sunny, Day Cloudy, Day Rain
New Weather: Day Snow

Stadion Olympik
Weather: Day Cloudy, Day Snow
New Weather: Day Sunny, Day Rain

Stadion Hanguk
Weather: Night Clear
New Weather: Night Rain, Night Snow

O Dromo
Weather: Day Sunny
New Weather: Night Clear

PRACTICE ARENAS

Arena North America
Weather: Dusk

Arena Brazil
Weather: Dusk

Arena Mediterranean
Weather: Dusk

Arena Eastern Europe
Weather: Day Cloudy

Arena France
Weather: Dusk

Arena England
Weather: Day Cloudy

Arena Korea
Weather: Night Clear

am almost tempted...

http://www.electronicarts.com.au/news/fifa10_marcelproducerblog_part2/

the weather changes alone will make manager mode 100% better

Any news on how long we have to wait until we find out if we have had our transfer bid accepted or do we still need to wait until after the next game?

MK - "The club and player you are negotiating with will still be taking a week to get back to you. That being said, we’ve removed the restriction of “Available bids”, so as long as your club and wage budget allows you to negotiate with additional players you will be free to do so. Also we’ve added a new feature where, after you successfully negotiated with a player, you don’t automatically sign him. You as the Manager still have to approve the transfer. This allows you to negotiate with multiple players on the same position and if they all accept your offer, you can individually accept or decline their transfer requests."

I wonder if FIFA 2011 will have a mode that uses the PS3 dildo glowstick controls, similar to wii motion control (which gives you much more control of players off the ball)? But with beautiful HD graphics...

keepers can be sent off!!!!

is this the first game that's been possible?

from open play, not from you dicking around slide tackling w/the keeper

Nah, the last PES or two that I played I had keepers sent off for bringing strikers down while being rounded. It was a bit too easy to play for it with the shot feint, I think.

It would be good for the game to actually give you any reason to have a goalkeeper on the bench.

demo out this week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HyopGaF1ts

I hope they improve the player individuality this year round

mpx4a do u use any manual controls? thinking about trying them out this year, fkn hard tho

I haven't even tried them on FIFA 09, I am still quite bad at it. I'm working towards it though. Slow, sustainable growth.

http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/blogs/fifa/offthebench/post/slug/live-season-20

meh

wd be good if u didn't have to pay for the first taste; they at least gave u one league free last year, this time it's only five updates free :/

really?! damn - not sure I'll pay for this since I mostly play in career mode

yeah, adidas sponsored the live season mode last year which allowed them to give one away

they're doing away with interactive leagues too to make way for my live season, which is a shame cos of course you have to pay to access my live season

I guess I'll mostly play manager mode and online then; would've liked to tool around with my live season tho

Oh man, there really is a Stuttgart player called P Funk.

demo is up

It's too soon! I haven't got Shrewsbury into the Premier League yet!

I must bring Champions League football to Local Park before I can move on!

nice nice nice nice

feels like a mix of euro 2008 and fifa09

360 dribbling is very subtle, I think it'll take time to get the most out of it

long balls can be hit flat and with pace

u can actually beat a man on the dribble

dare I say it, it feels kinda PES-y

in the responsiveness and weight but as if PES actually sacked seabass and put dave rutter in charge

Is this likely to be any good for the Wii? Is any football good on the Wii for that matter?

PES is the one to go for on the Wii

control for the Wii PES is weird at first but its worth sticking with, makes you wonder why no one has done similar for PC before (cue outraged PC owners clueing me into games i've never heard of before)

headers not being quite so crap would be a major selling point for me.

does anyone have opinions on how the 2010 versions of FIFA and PES stack up on the... PS2?

I think the consensus is that PS2 users should stick with PES. Or at least that was the consensus up until the 2010 releases.

There's no 10vs10 mode in WC2010, strangely.

I've been playing online BAP in FIFA over the last few days. If you play ranked pro matches you get people who are trying to get scouted so most of them pass the ball to you. You also get four voice messages a day from five year old kids asking if you want to join their team; I am waiting for the right offer, possibly from some seven or eight year olds.

http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt184/milomiau/DSC02576.jpg

I've played a few games of World Cup and am happy with the purchase. Nothing radically different - looks a bit better, seems slightly more responsive and less twitchy (I feel like I have better control over power of shots and crosses, but I traded in FIFA so can't directly compare). The Captaincy mode (Be A Pro replacement) is a big step up - good feedback, more info and nicer interfaces and menus.

If this is £25 anywhere I will have to fight the temptation to buy it new, even though I only reallyplay FIFA on 10vs10 mode, which this doesn't have. It would certainly appeal to mah aspie-like obsession with penalty kicks.

does WC2010 exist for PS2?

This game is much better than FIFA 10.

how so?

The ball physics are better, the keepers are better, and the matches seem to have an actual realistic flow instead of just being you having five one-on-ones saved and then getting fucked over by a wanky free kick in the 85th minute. I played Andorra and they stuck ten men behind the ball and fouled me a lot, I played Germany and they beat me 3-1 with ruthless Teutonic efficiency; I didn't feel remotely cheated. Shootouts also great.

It's going to be annoyingly impossible to go back to FIFA 10 for club matches, and knowing these fucks they'll probably take half this stuff back out of FIFA 11.

the keepers are better

As in, they stay on their line until it's smart to come out, but they can also let shots squirm under their body or fail to get any height on a backpass clearance if they're under pressure. Pretty sure I've also seen the "flapping at a cross and punching it straight down into the ground" spot, but that may have been weird deflections

Also the John Terry Falling On His Arse Penalty Animation is in

alright so i bought the world cup version of this cuz lol american who doesn't care about regular soccer etc etc anyway when i'm in "team management" there are two columns, one that says OVR and one that says FRM. they are different numbers and i'm wonder what FRM is signifying? i'm assuming it means their rating for this particular match, but i'm not positive

form

what does that mean

how well they are playing right now, as opposed to how well they can play.

right okay

liking this new versions - better keepers are the most obvious change but players seem overall much more responsive. Also liking the new online modes

I've picked up the World Cup edition (for ps3) as I wanted an easy way to play some online games. So far I've kind of just been griefing/trolling people by playing 2 star teams and it has been an amazing lot of fun. I actually got a guy to rage quit tonight when at the 80 minute mark I still led 2-0 vs his Mexican side, when I was playing New Zealand (LOL). I also almost beat Brazil with Uzbekistan after getting an early 2-0 lead, which unfortunately I wasn't able to maintain as Brazil managed to come back to win 3-2 (scoring their third goal in the 87th minute to break my heart). It also cracks me up that even after seeing me pick a crappy 2 star team, so far all my opponents still go on to pick 4 1/2 to 5 star teams like Italy / Brazil / Ivory Coast etc... good times.

Suffered a semi-shameful 0-7 online defeat when I picked half star New Caledonia vs. five star France (though I don't quite understand a rating system that gives France five stars, tbh). I did manage to hold France scoreless until the 45 minute mark, but in the second half they were just unstoppable. Guess my poor guys were tuckered out :(

burned out on fifa 2010 pretty quickly; now I have a PS3 I'm much more interested in PES this time round. I'm tempted to pick up a cheap copy of PES2010 in the interim, did anyone pick that up? I guess you can probably download option files from gfaqs w/updated teams etc, which is pretty handy

pretty much despised FIFA10 as much as any other FIFA. So much hype over the last few FIFA iterations about how they're really overtaken PES and that the games have really changed but i swear the FIFA i used to play on the gamecube is more or less the same as 10 just with worse graphics and slightly less control (obviously loads of extra features like where you play as one player in the game and all that pish that i will never care about but whatevs). Not that it's not better than the new PES games on the xbox, they've just totally gone backwards, so sad.

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thought FIFA10 did lots of things right (the 360 control was an amazing innovation) but the physicality was fundamentally flawed and prone to some illogical rubber banding; I do wish some developer would take the lead and let you pay for roster updates to a game instead of having to fork out for a new game entirely. this way if you liked a particular game's engine you could keep playing it for as long as you want. it wouldn't be that hard to do surely with xbl and PSN these days... they'd likely lose out on too much money though

I still playing FIFA 09 now and again; it's really a great game, don't agree that it's just your mother's FIFA, though it does share some of the 'feeling' (the 'slidiness'?) of old FIFA

iunno, I'm hopeful for PES2011 and it certainly looks very nice from the screens (PES2010 was gorgeous I thought) but I can't help thinking about pesfandevcycle.jpg every time I get my hopes up

http://i25.tinypic.com/kb3arr.jpg

I almost picked up PES2010 earlier this week since it's so cheap, but I kept thinking with the new game coming out in just a few more months and maybe better (we will see), I might as well wait (and picked up the Wolrd Cup game instead). Some of what's missing in FIFA for me (not compared to current PES, but just in general) is that it doesn't feel crisp enough, that the game seems to move at only two speeds (slow or medium) and you don't get a nice gradiation of speed of movement the leads to variety, sometimes it feels like you're swimming on the pitch instead of running, that annoying draggy animation when you're close to a goal keeper holding the ball that amazingly wasn't fixed for the world cup version, and probbaly most importantly that close play feels totally random and like nothing. Also with the World Cup game the online has been disappointing as it seems to dump you into a match only based on if somebody is looking for a match too and it doesn't take connection quality into account as about half my games so far have been laggy and one unplayable due to running at less than half speed. Wish it looked for connection quality even if I had to wait a minute or two for a game. Problem is probably worse since the WC game probably sold 1/10th as much as FIFA 10.

I do wish some developer would take the lead and let you pay for roster updates to a game instead of having to fork out for a new game entirely. this way if you liked a particular game's engine you could keep playing it for as long as you want. it wouldn't be that hard to do surely with xbl and PSN these days...

yeah - I don't think this is ever going to happen officially. On the other hand, people are still doing this with PES 6, I think - you can download option files for the current season with players and kits (haven't tried to update yet myself as I rather like the "classic" feel).

So I've picked up the Wii version of the World Cup game (only $40 - shrug), and well, I like it, actually I really like it. So far, definitely having more fun with this than the HD version. It's cartoony, yes, and exaggerated, but both in a good way - feels more game like. It's also less glitchy than the HD versions and runs much more smoothly (which is what was starting to really bug me with the ps3 game). It's not as simplified as something like Sensible Soccer, but it has that fun, less serious feeling and style. Actually I think the graphics look pretty good, definitely better than the semi-realistic Wii games like PES. There's also some depth - in particular, passing feels like it takes more skill than in the HD versions (you definitely can't ping pong pass). Shooting with a shake feels good too. Defense, I still haven't really figured out - it feels the least good (so far) - kinda like PES on Wii actually - just sort of a vague feeling. I only tried two online games so far and it seemed to work smoothly and pretty much lag free, I was impressed. Games could be a little longer and I'm not sure the balance between what you can do on offense vs. defense is exactly there, but I really have to play more to say for sure. Fun is good!

so...

Fifa 11 teaser is out

any gameplay vids kicking around yet?

judging by the description - it seems they've only added some kind of player personality tweak - i have a vague feeling EA is once again falling back on previous bad habits ("superstar" palyers, "magic skill", extra bonus power-up, etc.)

why can't i just download new transfer updates and be done with it?

It seemed like PES was going down the 'magic skill' route worse though, by letting you map eg a rainbow flick to one direction on the right stick and letting you do it whenever you want.

They also need to learn some of the lessons from the WC game and up the difficulty a lot because I was winning basically every game of FIFA 10 at least 3-0 by the end.

Additions / changes for 11...

Pro passing (eliminates easy ping pong passing, supposedly)
Ability to save replay videos directly to your hard drive
Personality+ (more variety to players, so players feel more unique)
Better tackling (360 degree defense)
Career mode combines be a pro & manager mode
Creation center
Goal keepers user controllable in career mode & 11 vs 11 online
Russian Premier League licensed for 360/ps3 versions

What is good for Wiii right now

super mario galaxy 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AlU5loZQIc

so the only thing new here (personality) is a 10 year old PES feature

11 on 11 o_O

user controlled celebrations 0_0

FIFA 10 has user controlled celebrations.

think that's a FIFA 08 innovation, maybe even earlier

can't decide betw. this and PES this year, burned out on FIFA 10 and its 'physical game' bullshit p.quickly and PES is shaping up quite nicely

The weird thing about PES this year is that it's looking more and more like a FIFA clone (maybe not so weird considering FIFA has been killing the last couple of years). Will be interested to try out the demos for both... here's some PES 2011 gameplay from Gamescom I was just watching...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8JWoYjex1s

FIFA 11 still appears to flow better, I think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsK8PXNSCs

I'm not at all convinced by that PES footage at all, it just looks like the same old illogical ping-pong passing and awkward changes of direction, and sprinting diagonally towards the corner flag until you can turn back and pass it across the 18 yard line for ages waiting for a tap in. The ball physics look quite good though.

I hope the FIFA10 team have taken on quite a lot of the improvements from the World Cup game. I know they've ported over the cool penalty system, but WC really lived up the promise of how satisfying the 360 control should have been in FIFA 10. When the AI isn't relentlessly pressuring you with two men with infinite stamina, the sense of territorial gain and ball retention is a lot more enjoyable.

It might be that the guys on the FIFA demo are just better at the game, but there's definitely an awkwardness to PES that I don't think they'll ever quite get rid of this generation.

so FIFA and PES will be released on the same dday this year...

FITE!

I'm still enjoying being mostly rubbish at the FIFA single player and this doesn't look like anything new (or new enough to feel like a full release) so I think I'll skip it, at least until the dust settles.

I'm right there w/you but then the supermarkets always do FIFA pretty cheap on release so I might be swayed

for uk ilxors, fifa wc 2010 £14
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2010-FIFA-World-Cup-Xbox/dp/B0036TG51K/