ILX: Press × To Continue, Press Δ To Cancel: Best PS2 Games Of All Time NOMINATIONS/FORMAT DISCUSSION THREAD

Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?

I think that was the one after 4.

Everybody's Golf 4 aka Hot Shots Golf Fore!

^I'm sure no one will vote for this but so, so addictive.

This is gonna be good and i may be able to help on the final poll.

NBA Street 2
Kingdom Hearts and KH 2
Onimusha
Twisted Metal Black

... drawing a blank; will add more as i think of them.
God, this poll made me break out my old games folder. So many dreamcast discs. Why did i ever get rid of that console.

Also, Forks, a year or two ago you managed to get some pretty awesome non-ilx folx voting (mitch k, for instance)-- did you mail them and ask them to contribute? Or did they find it somewhere else or are they secret lurkers?

I contacted them. Just pick out yer fave eukyarotes and email em!

Do we have to have all the different versions of games like MGS3 or can we all agree that Subsistence is the best one?

I dare not open up my old games cabinet, I'd just end up dusting of the DC and playing Toy Commander all night.

oh go on then

I'm going to combine votes for MGS3 and Subsistence, I only played the former but assume I would have loved the latter jsut as much. They're not really different games, one's just an improvement of the other really

can i request a "list thus far" in the thread, plz?

Which is the one with Bam? And all the stuff you have to do that has nothing to do with skateboarding? And the sticker slap which effectively means you can ground-combo eternally with almost no skill?

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― antexit, Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

That was THUG2. THUG1 was slightly better ubt very full of non-skating things to do (in the bad way).

xpost list coming in under 2 mins. Just making sure I have no doubles.

Ape Escape 2
Ape Escape 3
Beyond Good & Evil
Breath Of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Bully
Burnout Revenge
Capcom vs SNK 2
Contra: Shattered Soldier
dark cloud 2
Def Jam Fight For NY
Def Jam Vendetta
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou
Dragon Quest VIII
Everybody's Golf 4 / Hot Shots Golf Fore
Fahrenheit / Indigo Prophecy
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XII
Fire Pro Wrestling Returns
God Hand
God of War
God of War II
Gradius V
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo 4
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
GrimGrimoire
Growlanser V: Generations
Guitar Hero 2
Half-Life
Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
Ico
Jak and Daxter
Katamari Damacy
Killer7
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King
Madden 08
Manhunt
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Metal Gear Solid 2/ MGS2 Substance
Metal Gear Solid 3/ MGS3 Susbistence
Micro Machines V4
NBA Street
NBA Street 2
NHL Hitz Pro
Odin Sphere
Okami
Onimusha
Outrun 2006 Coast2Coast
Persona 3
Persona 4
Prince of Persia - Sands of Time
Pro Evolution Soccer 2005
Psychonauts
Ratchet & Clank
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
RE2 (?)
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
Ring of Red
Rogue Galaxy
R-Type Final
Shadow Hearts
Shadow of the Colossus
Silent Hill 2
Singstar
Sly 2: Band Of Thieves
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
SOS: The Final Escape
SoulCalibur II
Spider-Man 2
SSX
SSX Tricky
Star Ocean: Til The End Of Time
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)
Stuntman
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Tekken Tag Tournament
The Warriors
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk Underground
Transformers
Twisted Metal Black
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Viewtiful Joe
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
We Love Katamari
Wip3out
Worms 3D
Yakuza 2
Zone Of The Enders 2: 2nd Runner

That's 103 entries.

notes: RE2 and Wip3out are PS1 titles, if the original nominators meant something else let me know or I will cut them (RE4 was PS2, and some other RE titles; Wipeout Fusion and Pulse were PS2, but not W3).

0 story (2000)
ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007)
atelier iris: eternal mama (2004)
bombastic (2003)
ddrmax dance dance revolution (2002)
devil may cry 3: dante's awakening (2005)
la pucelle tactics (2002)
maximo: ghosts to glory (2001)
ring of red (2000)
xenosaga (2002)

probably need more sports games? only sports game i really play is madden tho + i guess its hard 2 nominate 1 specific year/game? mb it makes sense just to nom series?

also also imo digital devil saga 1/2 is basic the same game for voting purposes

Xenogears I/II/III
Taiko Drum Master
Stretch Panic
PaRappa 2
Max Payne
Mister Mosquito
The Mark of Kri
Grandia II
Get on Da Mic (I have some good stories on this one)
Fatal Frame
FF X-2
Dance Dance Revolution: DDRMAX

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good catch on maximo

and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess?
I'm not necessarily repping everything I'm nomming as top fifty even, but we might as well have an extensive working list.

hey I was serious about State of Emergency!

The other PS2 game I watched a fair bit of, though never played much of, was Smuggler's Run. I'll nom that too?

haha evidently these were both Rockstar games...had no idea

lamp read the OP u big loser

also you forgot mana khemia

um wtf u h8ful jerk u no i cant read

Amplitude
Crazy Taxi
Devil May Cry
ESPN NFL 2K5
Frequency
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Rez
Street Fighter EX3
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
MLB The Show 2006
Madden 2002

omg thank you for nba street 2. so so so so so addictive.

and if you're pulling wipeout, let's put in wipeout fusion I guess?

don't bother, even i'm not gonna vote for that sack o' crap.

hey I was serious about State of Emergency!

― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sorry I missed that one-- I may have missed some others that were not in handy list format due to my hasty excel copying, let me know if you see anything missing everyone!

ar tonelico II: melody of metalfalica (2007)

"metalfalica" sounds like it is about a great steel dick

also also imo digital devil saga 1/2 is basic the same game for voting purposes

I will combine these two, as iirc they are pretty much continuations-- I'll also do tihs for Xenosaga, any other recommendations peopel for games that shjould be lumped together? Obv not GTA or MGS, but maybe Madden 2002 and 2008?

possible lumps together:
- god of war 1 & 2 (leaning no on this one)
- gran turismo 3 & 4 (also leaning no)

wow, it totally posted for me before i was ready.
- kingdom hearts 1 & 2 (never played them, no idea)
- lego star wars 1 & 2, if anyone even noms 1
- nba street 1 & 2
- ssx & ssx tricky (again, never played, so i dunno if they're reskins or actually quite different games)

xenosagas, digital devil sagas, and MGSes with their remakes (substance/subsistence) are already lumped together.

i say: do not lump the god of war games together.

miss the point that clubs are best-placed to decide what debt they take on

don't matter, i'll just vote for whichever makes it on to the poll, it'd be easier.

i aim to have a ps2 or 3 ONLINE (for the first time) in the next 6 months btw, and will be looking for beatches to school. fair warning.

GOW II is much better than I, they're very diff games.
same for street, ssx, kh. Dunno about the rest.
forgot about amplitude; good catch.

My understanding was that SSX Tricky was way better than the first SSX, just like NBA Street 1 vs. 2. SSX3/SSX On Tour were also considered different degrees of quality, though I didn't play them. Personally I would go with Tricky.

Mr. Cobo -- can I send you the latest list of nominated games for PS2 and have you out them up on the blog? I want to start sending the blog link to people instead of this thread, as I'm expecting to do some pretty serious flogging of the poll tonight. magacid at gmail if you want to hit me there, and I can forward you the list so far!

holla

playing san andreas right now, on completion you get infinite ammo - and with the mini gun its something of an absolute riot.

okay, put a call for nominations for this poll up on the blog including the most current version of the ballot. if you want to recruit people but don't want to send them to this thread, here's the link to send them instead:

http://cointandplick.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/coint-plick-ps2-call-for-nominations/

Alien Hominid
Darkwatch
Evil Dead: Regeneration
MDK2: Armageddon
Red Faction
The Suffering

ugh a bunch more i am not remembering

Final Ballots will have the following:

- Top 1 to 15 games for the PS2, with optional commentary on why they are the best (a sentence to a paragraph ideal, or a link to something you've previously written about the game in question)

- Biggest disappointment

- Worst game

- Best cover art.

any off thread interest?

Cargo Barge Driver Reloaded - The Canal Diaries

Yep, I have heard from a few of the people I've emailed, and I wrote myself an email of others I am going to bug. Speaking of which, a couple of nominations I received by email that weren't ITT:

- Burnout 3: Takedown
- Yakuza 1

tryna get this down 2 15 is going to be ~impossible~

Capcom vs SNK 2
God of War
God of War II (never played but assume it’s just as good as I)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (I never got San Andreas)
Katamari Damacy
Jak 3 (add this btw, might as well add 2 also)(I never played the prequels)
Ratchet & Clank
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves (add this btw) (I never played the prequels)
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection (w/ III: 3rd Strike)
Street Fighter Alpha Anthology (add this btw)
Katamari Damacy (never played the sequel)
Twisted Metal Black
I own Shadow of the Colossus and only barely played (might be on my final list)
I own Suikoden III but never got far into it (might be on my final list)
I never played Bully and maybe I should borrow it (might be on my final list)
SSX3 (add this btw) (I never played but I did like SSX and if this was supposed to be an improvement on SSX and Tricky)

these are my top games^

some stuff I really should check out like Odin Sphere and Okami (even though I would play Okami for wii)

that's not meant to be my final list.. just sharing my thoughts

i'm not gonna list my ballot as it feels like jumping the gun, but I will say that I am leading the Shadow of the Colossus bloc to what I hope will be well deserved victory

It's kind of annoying (for me) that I haven't played games like Jak 1 &2, Sly 1 & 2, Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal, and all the SSX sequels because they may have definitely been better than the sequels I played. I almost feel like you should lump together SSX, Jak, Sly, and Ratchet and Clank for those reasons. But then who's stopping you from not lumping sequels together for all the respective games

haha considering how um 'independent' ilg poll results often are im not even gonna try to predict any results. my ballot it still in the early stages - i figured id just write down all the games that i think are worth voting for and stoppped after like 40. right now my cut-off is like:

16 metal gear solid 2: substance
17 capcom vs snk 2
18 we ♥ katamari
19 growlanser: generations
20 sly 2: band of thieves

srsly getting this down to 15 feels sooooooooooo difficult

hey I was serious about State of Emergency!

― begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:02 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

fuck you

i unironically wish physical harm upon you

if san andreas doesn't win, can we just close down ILG

better gta than shadow of the colossus 4 sure altho im hard 4 vice city