rolling thread of stuff worth reading on videogames

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1781 of them)

personally, i am extremely smart and don't need a filthy article to point out a monopoly, but p sure monopolies are still problo

people really do like valve. and EA has been seen as the quintessential heartless corporate philistine for like decades now. when they tried to wrest some distribution control from valve it was annoying and made the consumer experience worse and there's nothing more morally obscene to consumers than worsening their experience.

anyway this about covers it i think?

god this is written in an irritating fashion, but it makes a good point

— Inventor of Leftism (@ByYourLogic) May 17, 2017

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

NO SALE, NO OWNERSHIP, NO REFUNDS
We all eventually discovered that our close, personal and entirely fictional relationship with Valve did not entitle us to any kind of refund on our purchases.

*11 paragraphs follow about how shitty Valve was for not offering refunds*

Even when Valve finally did get around to launching a refund program (a full two years after the supposedly evil EA did it!), many people quite accurately and angrily observed that the default refund option was in Steam credit, which means Valve wins either way. It's almost like Good Guy Valve just ... doesn't want you to have your money back.

ffs they made you uncheck a box get a grip

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

We love the Steam Sales and the discounts they bring. But perhaps even more than we love the low, low prices, we love The Sale Event itself. We love the pre-sale videos that we carefully cut together to hype each other up for the imminent spending spree. We love the in-jokes and the memes, the constant banter about the bleeding wallets and the screaming, tortured credit cards that just can't take any more.

There's a word that people use to describe “creating a sense of excitement to improve spending on an upcoming commercial event,” and that word is “marketing.” Marketing is a job, and in the real world, people get paid for it.

But in the world of Good Guy Valve we give that marketing away, for free, to a billion-dollar corporation every year (sometimes twice a year, if he asks nicely), doing our bit to help that corporation make more money during a sale event.

We’re colleagues in the sense that Valve gets our money and our labor, a topic we’ll talk more about later. We do our part with the memes, the articles and the social media posts, and our good friend Valve does the rest. The rest meaning taking our money.

what is he talking about he is professionally writing about all of this for a major publication presumably he is being paid for this. is he upset that Valve isn't paying him directly for message board comments and retweets?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

lol otm that article was dumb

Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link

DLH OTM

Adam and Tofu just more accelerationist than the rest of us

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

Adam, yes, please go back to being a thief, that seems to be your aim here

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

as monopolies go valve/steam isn't much of one

Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link

it's approximately as much of one as twitch, youtube and the itunes store

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

yeah none of which i think are particularly egregious. in the "video game" space steam isn't even the biggest player. it's the biggest player in the PC gaming online retail space.

Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

All of the arguments against this piece seem to be just going around the point entirely. So it's not egregious - that's the same as being okay?
Is it perfectly acceptable that we have to rely on lawsuits in other countries to keep this company from exploiting its "exclusive distributor" status to an even greater extent?

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link

what is steam exclusive distributor of?

Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link

...

El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

I dunno man I tried my best maybe you can load more results than me

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=exclusive%20on%20steam

I'm slow, that's also maybe why I needed forks to tell me corporations aren't moral beings

El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

Half Life, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress? Is that the complaint? It's not like they're three particularly hot franchises atm.

Mordy, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

steam is valve's exclusive distributor which is not exactly a monopoly, it's just the delivery service for the games they make

i dunno why this got under your skin tom but i'll happily pour you that drink now
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/16/161375/2254963-link_receives_red_potion.jpg

i'm with you tombot

Nhex, Thursday, 18 May 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

_If you were to ask the average PC gamer, they’d swear up and down that there’s no way they’d ever give their money to such a corporation. They’d not only be caught dead before helping a company like that come to power, they might even join the resistance to stop them._

lol are you serious

I had a hard time finishing the article after reading this. The article reads like an angry Reddit post.

beard papa, Friday, 19 May 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

I think the average PC gamer is only worried about big corporations when they don't adhere to ethics in journalism

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

luckily nothing unethical happens during the manufacturing of those PCs

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...
four weeks pass...

good piece, albeit depressing

this is nuts:

Jake Stoner at Cap'n Games in Sparks, Nev. simply has an Amazon Prime account and preorders one copy of every new game. Since Amazon offers 20 percent off preorders, he gets a lower per-unit price than distributors offer. Then he turns those around for a $5 profit on each.

"I don't try to mislead my customers, but I'll let them know that I'll have one," he says. "So if you want it, that's great. I don't have an issue with that. But I'll only have one. And that works OK. But most of the time, I just refer people elsewhere."

For some like Brossman at Complete in Box, though, it's worth it to suck it up and play the distribution game. He points out that certain items have even worse margins than new games, noting that he pays $29.90 for a Microsoft gift card that sells for $30. If a customer buys that with a credit card, his store loses money on the sale.

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

fell into a youtube hole last night watching a series called 'boundary break', where a guy pokes around in areas outside the limits of videogame spaces

super-dorky but i love this shit - here's the dark souls iii one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbaA6_84gyY&list=PLYfhW_P-MkU7vBmWwwyqdIWNDzXfEZwnO&index=24

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 08:40 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

directly related but not specifically about games - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-08-04-bungies-13-year-battle-to-kill-crunch-culture

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 August 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

"A lot of people get burned out because they don't take the vacation, so as a manager part of your job is to make sure they do," Timmins said. "Leadership needs to set examples. It can take years for a culture to develop; for people to believe it's okay to take a vacation, that it's not a crazy crunch culture where something bad is going to happen when they come back."

i wish i could staple this to my PMs' foreheads (i don't work in games, but i am a software dev; at one point this summer i worked 29 days in a row, and we still haven't launched)

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 6 August 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

good article. hope people in the business read it!

Nhex, Sunday, 6 August 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

https://gamehistory.org/aladdin-source-code/

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

herne bay arcade, kent. not rly heavy on video games but there’s some good vignettes:

http://www.seasphotography.org.uk/search/results/6b8242cef3ec13ea3a46da0b9e2ecbf7

Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

good one

Nhex, Sunday, 12 November 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

So the developers behind one the first idle RPGs to take off have announced they’re abandoning the free-to-play model because it’s unethical:

http://www.clickerheroes2.com/paytowin.php

El Tomboto, Saturday, 25 November 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

Regarding Metal Gear Solid samples in Burial's 'Untrue'.

https://kottke.org/17/12/the-making-of-burials-untrue

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

Not a whole lot on Metal Gear Solid, but thanks for linking that, lots I didn't know yet

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

this is not "worth reading" but is it weird that i think Tim Rogers is my favorite person to hear talk about videogames? is anyone else a tim rogers fan?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link

Where be the kingfish

El Tomboto, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

me, usually

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

Tim Rogers and his little lackey wanted to fight me and my friend at an E3 party because he was wasted and mad we didn't know who he was

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 December 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link

hah! that sounds right.

Nhex, Saturday, 16 December 2017 07:14 (six years ago) link

this is not "worth reading" but is it weird that i think Tim Rogers is my favorite person to hear talk about videogames? is anyone else a tim rogers fan?

yeah i read/listen to everything he does. i highly recommend the "violence island" podcasts. they are basically battle royales styled after grade school playground debates (basically: who would win in a fight, X or Y). my favorite moment was during a battle between Flubber and Bo Jackson, the two merge together and become the unstoppable Flubbo Jackson.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

like some sort of overdriven bo jackson

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 16 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

i like tim rogers's more recent content. met him a couple times at pax and he seemed alright

ciderpress, Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

yeah he has a pretty cool series on Kotaku about translating FFVII

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

can't find violence island?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

the original podcast was hosted at www.earthblows.com. the site is down now but you can still find the archived shows:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160304064152/http://earthblows.com/

there are also some recent ones on youtube. this is the Christmas 2016 episode, "Violent Night", where they pit all the movie Santa Clauses against each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NYA0KlWoY4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link

the first episode of Violence Island has Godzilla vs. Tinkerbell i believe. they argue that she could either fly into his nasal cavity and disconnect his brain or explode his heart from within, or that she could sprinkle dust on him and cause him to float away (winning her the match by ring-out). when her character's homicidal tendencies were questioned they looked to her temper and the low key jealousy and violence shown towards Wendy in the "Peter Pan" film.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

tink could also shoot godzilla with a gun

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 17 December 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

or oversalt his tater tots after swapping his high blood pressure meds with sugar pills

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 17 December 2017 07:32 (six years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.