cad otm -- wade & lebron are seriously essential the same players -- it's not even like one is carmelo anthony who pretty much just scores and would actually be the perfect second player to lebron/wade
wade often functions as a de facto point guard, tho i know noting that isn't necessarily helping my case.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
carmello isn't a FA this year (or even next, i don't think).
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
let's just agree that the 1980s celtic frontcourt, for example, is something that will never, ever happen again
probably right.
xxp yeah he does and his options are basically shoot sick 3s over someone, drive hard, or find a shooter to kick to. sounds familiar imo.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i know melo isn't out there just think it would be sick
wade and carmelo would destroy the league. never even thought about that.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:06 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark
the reason why carmelo is so good on team usa but will prob never win a title as the #1 alpha dog is cuz on team usa he can just lay back as a "second tier player" and just destroy who ever is guarding him cuz you can't divert your best guy to him
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
so does wade, is the problem
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
lebron obv
i wonder why carmelo isn't a FA now, btw? odd coincidence that 3 of the top 4 picks in that draft are all suddenly free-agents, but melo isn't. (he was in that draft, right?)
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
but lebron is much bigger. he can do different things.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
melo will be a FA the year after, along with chris paul
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i could see melo winning a title in his paul pierce years with a dynamic younger team around him where he can just do his thing and go off for 30 every once in a while
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah melo has a player option for 11/12 that he should probably not take
there are minute differences b/w wade and lebron -- wade is a better jump shooter, lebron is a better rebounder -- but they serve the same function
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
lebron COULD do different things but he doesn't right now
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
dude needs to really woodshed and develop his game
really what the heat's problem is that for as touted as this free agency class is, it has a bunch of the same players -- wade and lebron are both wing players, and then joe johnson and rudy gay are wing players who are slightly worse -- bosh & amare are both slightly built PFs who can score like crazy but are prob a bit suspect on the defensive end. if there was a true center in this class, or a true point guard (chris paul), then the idea of a three-player dynasty would be much more feasible
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess yao could opt out
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
otm
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
can't see amare going anywhere at this point (unless the suns conduct a fire-sale for reasons having nothing to do with on-the-court success or chemistry)
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
don't want yao.
too fragile.
old news, but still:
"Before we agreed to terms, LeBron and I had a couple conversations," Wade said. "I can't recall exactly what we said, but the gist of it was we wanted to give ourselves the flexibility and the option to play together."A lot of times in this league, players usually wind up going where they can get the most money. We're both blessed within that area. We've made a lot of money. So we wanted to base our decision on two things, the organization and the ability to win a title. And that's what we'll do. When the season is over, we plan to sit down and talk about it."I'm not saying it will happen. But I'm intrigued by the idea."
"A lot of times in this league, players usually wind up going where they can get the most money. We're both blessed within that area. We've made a lot of money. So we wanted to base our decision on two things, the organization and the ability to win a title. And that's what we'll do. When the season is over, we plan to sit down and talk about it.
"I'm not saying it will happen. But I'm intrigued by the idea."
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i was actually looking for articles about whether their styles work together. found only the linked article atm.
very cute espn analyst jemele hill doesn't like the lebron-wade pairing, so the option is now off-the-table.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
finally i found the expert analysis i was looking for:
yall stupid Lebron James and D-wade are best friend and they will play together one day no one better cause they play the same but wade got a ring and james dnt
there. now please, let's put this to rest and resolve the 2012 presidential election next.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i say: palin/bachmann over obama (bulls fan, btw)/biden, 52% -- 48%.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100428115448AAicbqB
― am0n, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://l.yimg.com/dg/users/1zjrDrC25AAED_IFHXAnfAg==.medium.jpg
― contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
can't argue with that guy.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link
If I were Lebron, I would eat so much pizza.
― Jeff, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
mushroom or anchovy?
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Both. And deep dish.
― Jeff, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
if i were lebron i would be calm and debonair
― get me vlade'd (m bison), Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CZQHnNORSV8/SW1SCqPc1_I/AAAAAAAAHtM/bkSp8_S064c/s400/lebronjames.jpg
why hello, m bison.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVA00Fngvmg
lebron could call him...daddy?
― get me vlade'd (m bison), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
really what the heat's problem is that for as touted as this free agency class is, it has a bunch of the same players
This is a really good point!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 16 May 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
sup Delonte?
― Aerosol, Monday, 17 May 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The Chicago Tribune reported Monday that according to league sources, basketball power broker William Wesley -- a friend of both James and Calipari -- has been quietly contacting NBA teams that have coaching vacancies and salary cap space about the possibility of bringing in James and Calipari together.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
terrible idea
― get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
calipari is not actually a skilled big man iirc
― retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
new espn column says lebron should go to the clippers!
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 May 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
re: the heat & three FA signings, here's a rundown on the scenarios from the miami herald
Say Miami finds a well-under-the-cap team to take Michael Beasley ($4.9 million), Daequan Cook ($2.2 million) and its first-round pick ($1.2 million) in exchange for compensation that wouldn't be on Miami's cap next season, such as a 2011 draft pick. One NBA general manager said Friday, ``I don't think Beasley has much value; his reputation is soiled'' but that he would be interested if Miami offered Beasley in the above deal. Giving up Beasley for so little would not happen unless Miami is sure what it would get with the cap space, and it would need to be very significant.If Miami renounces all its free agents except Wade, that Beasley/Cook/No. 1 pick trade scenario would leave Miami with only $6.9 million committed beyond Wade's cap hold: James Jones' $1.85 million buyout (finding a team to take his contract before the June 30 buyout deadline is unlikely), Mario Chalmers ($854,000), Joel Anthony ($885,000 if he opts in), plus required cap holds to fill out a 12-man roster ($3.3 million for seven players).Based on the projected $56.1 million cap, that would leave $49.2 million to spend for next season, of which $16.6 million goes to Wade. If Riley can somehow convince Wade, LeBron James and Bosh to team up here, their first-year max salaries would total $49.8 million. Dealing Chalmers and Anthony -- on top of the other moves -- would create room to accommodate that $49.8 million. But a Wade/James/Stoudemire max trio would cost more ($50.4 million in 2010-11) and tougher to pull off because one would need to take slightly under the max.By dealing Beasley, Cook and the No. 18 pick for a future pick -- but not Chalmers and Anthony -- Miami, with $49.2 million, could give max deals to Wade, Bosh and Joe Johnson (their 2010-11 salaries would total $49 million); Wade, Bosh and Memphis restricted free agent Rudy Gay if Memphis doesn't match ($46.3 million); or Wade, Johnson and Carlos Boozer ($48.2 million). But the Heat prefers Bosh or Stoudemire over Boozer. Many believe Boozer and Johnson are worth less than their first-year max numbers ($15.8 million each).Throw in Anthony with the other pieces, and then there's space to sign Wade/Stoudemire/Johnson ($49.6 million). One GM said if James cannot be lured to Miami, this trio would be the next-most appealing.Sign-and-trades create more wiggle room, but Miami likely doesn't have the pieces to pull off two big ones. ``If you can get some philanthropic free agents who would take a reduction to play here . . . sometimes, these guys can create their own teams if there is any kind of friendship among three or four,'' Riley said.• In a three-star scenario, the roster would be rounded out with minimum salary players such as Carlos Arroyo, Raja Bell, Jamaal Magloire, plus Chalmers and Anthony if kept.
If Miami renounces all its free agents except Wade, that Beasley/Cook/No. 1 pick trade scenario would leave Miami with only $6.9 million committed beyond Wade's cap hold: James Jones' $1.85 million buyout (finding a team to take his contract before the June 30 buyout deadline is unlikely), Mario Chalmers ($854,000), Joel Anthony ($885,000 if he opts in), plus required cap holds to fill out a 12-man roster ($3.3 million for seven players).
Based on the projected $56.1 million cap, that would leave $49.2 million to spend for next season, of which $16.6 million goes to Wade. If Riley can somehow convince Wade, LeBron James and Bosh to team up here, their first-year max salaries would total $49.8 million. Dealing Chalmers and Anthony -- on top of the other moves -- would create room to accommodate that $49.8 million. But a Wade/James/Stoudemire max trio would cost more ($50.4 million in 2010-11) and tougher to pull off because one would need to take slightly under the max.
By dealing Beasley, Cook and the No. 18 pick for a future pick -- but not Chalmers and Anthony -- Miami, with $49.2 million, could give max deals to Wade, Bosh and Joe Johnson (their 2010-11 salaries would total $49 million); Wade, Bosh and Memphis restricted free agent Rudy Gay if Memphis doesn't match ($46.3 million); or Wade, Johnson and Carlos Boozer ($48.2 million). But the Heat prefers Bosh or Stoudemire over Boozer. Many believe Boozer and Johnson are worth less than their first-year max numbers ($15.8 million each).
Throw in Anthony with the other pieces, and then there's space to sign Wade/Stoudemire/Johnson ($49.6 million). One GM said if James cannot be lured to Miami, this trio would be the next-most appealing.Sign-and-trades create more wiggle room, but Miami likely doesn't have the pieces to pull off two big ones. ``If you can get some philanthropic free agents who would take a reduction to play here . . . sometimes, these guys can create their own teams if there is any kind of friendship among three or four,'' Riley said.
• In a three-star scenario, the roster would be rounded out with minimum salary players such as Carlos Arroyo, Raja Bell, Jamaal Magloire, plus Chalmers and Anthony if kept.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
also lebron supposedly made a postgame call to derrick rose. i supposedly cuz i bet it was at halftime
― am0n, Monday, 17 May 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i say supposedly
― am0n, Monday, 17 May 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
theoretically lebron would rule on the clippers -- kaman is a really good big man who would prob get better from having some offensive load taken off his shoulders, eric gordon is a great shooter who could be at the end of drive-and-kicks by lebron & could potentially carry the team when lebron sits & lebron & blake griffin on the fast break just gave me an erection, for obv reasons -- BUT IT'S THE FUCKING CLIPPERS
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 May 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
lebron wd need some witness relocation (move the clips to seattle and call them the sonics lol)
― get me vlade'd (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
link to that "postgame call to rose" story?
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 May 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS BAD AND IT WORRIES ME
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=381195
― am0n, Monday, 17 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link