that was like the most transparent tanking in recent memory -- the front office barely tried to hide it
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
trading for bogut was the tank.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
they traded their top scorer for an injured person (which might work out in the long run but it's hard not o see the short term benefit as "we will lose more games this way") XP
― Clay, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
The players were trying anyway. They just weren't very good players. But it gave some valuable minutes to Klay who stepped his game up and showed some of what he could do.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
the rosters they were putting out there at the end of the year were sub-D league. obv guys who are sub-D league are going to try, because they'll be out of the NBA. but the front office and marc jackson were purposefully putting a team out there that gave them the best opportunity to keep their pick.
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not complaining.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
(which might work out in the long run but it's hard not o see the short term benefit as "we will lose more games this way") XP
They didn't trade Ellis so they could lose more games. They have been trying to trade for size all fucking year.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I don't blame you guys for not watching Warriors games but all those meaningless games where they trotted out a broken down Curry and Lee and let Ellis play big minutes so they could get into the playoffs ... very infuriating shit.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
Or all the games where they played Nate Robinson instead of developing Charles Jenkins ... or etc. etc.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
― polyphonic, Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:28 PM (6 minutes ago)
...
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
they traded ellis for bogut. bogut had already suffered a season-ending injury
And in doing so their SG play improved. And center is their weakest position by far.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
dude, the trade was made after their chances of making the playoffs were already out the window. no one is condemning the move, but they did it 1) because bogut is better than ellis anyway and 2) to keep that pick
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
Lee and Curry were hurt, so they didn't play. Ellis was traded in a totally reasonable move. Otherwise they played the healthy players on their roster.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
on my phone so i'm not gonna link but Zach Lowe's two posts on the lottery today were pretty informative. I didn't realize that they draw it out like an actual lottery with all the teams having a set of four number combos that they wait to pop up. that would be really boring + almost impossible to televise.
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
It's cool I already linked to it.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
― polyphonic, Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:42 PM (9 minutes ago)
no one is saying this. a team trying to make the postseason doesnt trade its best scorer for a player on injured reserve. the front office made a long-term move
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
actually, if i remember right, they WERE putting out some funky lineups toward the end there, but that's not the point i'm trying to make. all i'm saying is the front office traded their most productive player for a player on injured reserve, which was widely seen as a tanking move
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Jackson played his veterans too much until the day they were eliminated from the playoffs, April 11th. On that day David Lee played 40min despite being hurt.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
On April 12th, even though the Warriors were already eliminated and Lee was suffering with his sprained groin, he still played 40 min.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
........
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
cool dots!
― polyphonic, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
a lot was made about the Mikki Moore signing, but he actually helped them.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7996057/michael-jordan-needs-sell-hornets-michael-kidd-gilchrist
scoop jackson with the dumbest NBA draft article I've ever read.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
The Bobcats' problem -- well, there are many, but for the sake of this column we'll just focus on one or two -- is that they can't stop other teams from scoring. Plus, they don't have one player who can make it difficult for opponents to score.
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
bobcats had like the worst offense in NBA history, genius.
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
that entire thing is just incoherent and completely wrong
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
GUYS DON'T READ SCOOP
― call all destroyer, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
If you learn nothing else from this thread, please don't read Scoop, don't listen to Skip, and fuck Derek Fisher.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
wow that's truly one of the dumbest things i've ever read in my entire life
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
really tho
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, June 1, 2012 5:51 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Charlotte already has three players who can legitimately score at three different positions: D.J. Augustin at the point, Gerald Henderson at small forward and Kemba Walker off the bench.
first of all, no. secondly, "off the bench" is a not a position in basketball.
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, June 1, 2012 5:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No disrespect, but an upgrade from Bismack Biyombo in the middle is urgently necessary.
because of how in basketball you only play one big man for the entire game
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, June 1, 2012 6:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Jordan needs to go deep, take the Hornets through his own personal history. Remind them of what happened in 1984 when a team with a higher pick (Portland) chose another great big man from Kentucky (Sam Bowie) and passed on a special shooting guard. (And then Jordan can have Cho follow that up and remind them about the Greg Oden-Durant outcome.)
he should also remind them of the time that the bulls missed out on michael beasley or the time the clippers missed out on hasheem thabeet or the time the cavs missed out on darko milicic
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, June 1, 2012 6:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
Does Jordan have enough Bishop Juan skill as an owner
smfh 1 million times
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7996057/michael-jordan-needs-sell-hornets
^^the article would actually make more sense if it was about this
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ players running away from workouts in both charlotte and sacramento
― moullet, Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
drummond & biyombo could be like a younger, much less polished version of the perkins/ibaka frontcourt
what about ayon and davis? unheard of
― moullet, Sunday, 3 June 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Best-CaseWorst-Case-NBA-Comparisons-Added-to-All-2012-Prospects-3943
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 June 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
chadfordinsider Chad FordLots of teams buzzing about a Dion Waiters promise. Teams say he's canceled all upcoming workouts. Blazers, Raptors, Suns all suspects
― Moreno, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol at "all suspects"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
it'd be a crime to take him, I guess.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
i'l never forget when the hawks promised sheldon williams with the 5th pick. like were you really worried that one of those 4 teams ahead of you were gonna lose their shit over him in a workout?!?
― Moreno, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Skulls like that don't grow on trees.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha classic hawks
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't even the worst pick of the top 5 that year
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
2006 draft had four outright nuclear bombs in the top 10: adam morrison, shelden williams, patrick o bryant & mohammed sene
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
rough year
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 June 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
Shelden Williams is the best of that bunch, and yet the worst basketball player in his marriage.
― polyphonic, Friday, 8 June 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
― Moreno, Friday, June 8, 2012 12:01 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was so strange. Maybe the strangest pick ever.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 June 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
Anthony Davis arrived for his pre-draft media interview wearing a T-shirt that read "Check my stats."Thomas Robinson wasn't afraid to share his thoughts when asked to give his input."If you wanted to check the stats, then I'd be the No. 1 pick easily -- if that's what you want to do," Robinson said. "I should get one of those shirts. I'll get a shirt that says, 'Numbers don't lie.' "Robinson thinks he’s the best available player, despite Davis’ accomplishments."I think I play with a different level than everyone else, a different intensity level," Robinson said. "I'm going to play every night -- that's not something every guy [does]. Everybody don't show up every night on a consistent basis. I think out of this group, I probably would say that I'm one of the players that do."
Thomas Robinson wasn't afraid to share his thoughts when asked to give his input.
"If you wanted to check the stats, then I'd be the No. 1 pick easily -- if that's what you want to do," Robinson said. "I should get one of those shirts. I'll get a shirt that says, 'Numbers don't lie.' "
Robinson thinks he’s the best available player, despite Davis’ accomplishments.
"I think I play with a different level than everyone else, a different intensity level," Robinson said. "I'm going to play every night -- that's not something every guy [does]. Everybody don't show up every night on a consistent basis. I think out of this group, I probably would say that I'm one of the players that do."
― moullet, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link