#focus#mustwin#playoffs#drama? : 2013 NBA playoffs

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For all the statnerd love on ILH it's amazing how people still defend Carmelo as if it were LeBron-Durant-Melo or something. All other things equal, there are like 15 guys I'd rather have on my team / root for than Melo; maybe even more! Any argument that doesn't bring up his suspect rebounding/defense/passing + ball-stopping + iffy fg% for that volume of possessions is just trolling. The only situations that would turn a Melo team into a title contender would be with A) a CP3-type pg who could drive'n'dish to an OPEN Melo consistently, or B) Melo-as-2nd-scoring option, which I actually think might happen in a few years, once he doesn't have the athleticism to trick his team into rolling w/ him as top dog.

If Melo were in the situation where he had wide-open looks on those long-range jumpers like Garnett/DWest, I think he'd be an amazing addition. Meloball is like a bad flashback to isoball dark ages.

W/r/t loss to Pacers, Knicks have a shitshow roster that may as well've been chosen pin-tale-on-donkey style (and lolol are for the next two years) and a huge part of the blame falls to Woodson for demonstrably bad in-game subbing. It's a shame that Chandler/Shumpert weren't both 100% for them, would've made for a great series.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7406/lbjjcp5.gif

moullet, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:36 (eleven years ago) link

in other news, spurs obliterated the grizz
zbo has 2 points whole game

one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

[ikev youre really blowing my mind here with this "but is there really even such a thing as a good defense, maaaaaan' college freshman seminar philosophizing
― 乒乓, Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:05 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

... What if the Melo I perceive as a bitchmade volume shooter is different from the Melo you perceive?? *:? ...

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

He's one of a handful of current players — maybe Durant, Harden, Curry, Paul, Kobe and that's it — who would step on a court with LeBron right now and think, Fuck that guy, I'm as good as him.

he would also be hilariously wrong and shoot a bunch of long 2s while thinking this

one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

Monta Ellis would totally step on the court and think he's as good as Bron

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link

the melo conundrum is pretty simple; the talent is there but the basketball sense isn't.

i mean, ppl who rate him are getting fooled, but they're getting fooled into thinking he'll ever figure out the game, not getting fooled into believing in his skills. different things.

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

he could be, like, exponential paul pierce but i think the ship has sailed.

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

melo is basically 00s nique

one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Monday, 20 May 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

that's a really good comp

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 May 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

i did not know that melo's middle name was "kyam"

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 May 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

you're on defense for half the time and offense for half the time

yeah, but a good defense generates easy offensive opportunities more often than a good offense makes your defense stronger.

Aimless, Monday, 20 May 2013 04:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2646645/triptony.gif

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 May 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago) link

melo had a great season this year largely cause the knicks played him at power forward most of the time, something to think abt

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2013 09:34 (eleven years ago) link

tony allen is v smooth

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2013 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

melo is basically 00s nique

― one if by lamp, two if by deeznuts (m bison), Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i can't believe i've never seen this before and the stats are ridiculously similar, esp if you look at the same ages

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Monday, 20 May 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

i love melo as our team usa streak-shooting stretch 4 for fifteen minutes a game and hate him as nba pseudo heroballer

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Monday, 20 May 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

allen felt bad about the tony-on-tony violence and helped parker up after that trip

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Monday, 20 May 2013 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

FWIW I have a relative who worked in advertising in the 60s/70s and she has always griped about the heavy amphetamine use since it made people burn out after a year or two / could only come up with half-formed ideas that they thought were brilliant. She has used the word "gibberish" in the past; happy to finally see it in MM!

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 20 May 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

* wrong thread; Melo is my shitty B-12 shot :/

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 20 May 2013 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

"J.R. Smith is expected to opt out of his contract and re-sign with the Knicks in a four-year deal starting at about $5 million"

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

how do they have the cap room to do that

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

how many of the old timers/bench players will be coming back next year? (i.e. Camby, KMart, Thomas, Kidd, etc.)

Nhex, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

kidd had one of the all time weirdest seasons

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

ha yeah he did

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

JR probably shot his way out of about 20 million bucks this postseason

Aren't basically all of the Knicks' olds back for two more seasons?

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 20 May 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

JR probably shot his way out of about 20 million bucks this postseason

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, May 20, 2013 6:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i was gonna say that 4/20 seems very low for him but he's so volatile that i guess it's heartening that no team would drop tons of money on him

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

4/20 seems perfect for him

B-)

lag∞n, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

how do they have the cap room to do that

― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 20:44 (3 hours ago) Permalink

apparently they can early bird him

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 May 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

really thought game 1 was tonight for some reason

me too, hate the long layoff

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

Dark days ahead, fellas.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

Dark days perhaps, but also days without having to watch the Knicks play the Pacers any more.

Aimless, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

i'm starting to think you guys don't like the Knicks

Nhex, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 04:42 (eleven years ago) link

Knicks > Lakers

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

^^ agreed

Aimless, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'd rather watch more Knicks - Pacers if it helps delay the long summer of Broussard screaming about DAWIGHT HOWARD on the worldwide leader that we all know is coming

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

But yes Knicks please lock yourselves into four years of JR and enjoy getting bounced in round 2 for the next few years until Melo demands a trade to LA or Chicago

joe smith avatar (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

i support melo to l.a.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

melo howard kobe all on the same team, damn im getting teary eyed

乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

front third of this is sort of a mess

does anyone who had already heard this have the production credits?

yeah, the front third of the lakers is definitely a mess

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

(i don't really know what that would actually be, but)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

lol oops


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