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kobe vs lebron plzzzzzzzzzzz

J0rdan S., Sunday, 12 April 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Kobe vs. whatever beat-up team limps out of the ECF

lucked up (lukas), Sunday, 12 April 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

kobe vs lebron in the finals

cavs champz

moullet, Monday, 13 April 2009 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

WHO DA CHAMPS ???

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

voet^

c?rvel (ice cr?m), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

celts-cavs yesterday was a terrifying vision of what might happen in the ecf, including lebron drawing a foul in the 1st quarter with a whistle blown before there was even any contact

dude is just going to barrel his way to the line 10-15 times a game ala wade in 06

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 13 April 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

mind you i still think he's unstoppable this year even if the refs never bail him out

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Monday, 13 April 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

1st round pixxxxxx

CLE v DET - King James
LA v UT - Jazz (LOL)
BOS v CHI - Celtix
DEN v NO - Nawlins
ORL v PHI - Fuck Philly
SA v DAL - Spurs
POR v HOU - Blazers
ATL v MIA - ATLiens

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - cavs duh
LA v UT - lakes
BOS v CHI - celts but chicago might be scary - rondo vs rose will be O_O
DEN v NO - nuggz
ORL v PHI - superman
SA v DAL - spurs
POR v HOU - portland, yall getting waxed by the lake show tho
ATL v MIA - wade is gonna beast these fuckers

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:19 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - the cleve
LA v UT - lakeshow
BOS v CHI - celtic
DEN v NO - hornitz
ORL v PHI - disney
SA v DAL - cuban
POR v HOU - go team!
ATL v MIA - heat in seven.

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2009 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - GAYvaliers
LAL v UTA - GAYkers
BOS v CHI - seventy-SUXors
DEN v NOH - horNUTs
ORL v PHI - FAGic
SAS v DAL - maverICKs
POR v HOU - THE BEST FUCKING TEAM THAT IS BETTER THAN THE FUCKIN ROCKETS
ATL v MIA - hawks i guess i dunno

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

HENRY ABBOTT: You know what's stuck in my mind? Out of Nuggets, Spurs, Mavericks, and Hornets, someone is going to make the Western Conference Finals. Could be any of them.

^^ that's really weird, all things considered.

Clay, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm hoping for Rockets vs. Spurs

and Pistons vs. Celtics.

Just to fuck with David Stern. and have 80 point games.

james k polk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - Cleveland
LA v UT - Lakerz
BOS v CHI - Celtiks
DEN v NO - Denver
ORL v PHI - Orlandoooo
SA v DAL - Dallas
POR v HOU - Houston
ATL v MIA - Atlanta

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

what I'm hoping for probably isn't possible. I haven't looked at the brackets yet after tonight. I am pissed at the Rockets, because if you can't even beat the Mavericks, what is the point.

I don't want Kobe vs. Lebron because that is all I've heard all season, and I'm sick of it.

james k polk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:39 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - Cleveland, 5
LA v UT - Lakers, 4
BOS v CHI - Celtics, 5
DEN v NO - Denver, 5
ORL v PHI - Orlando, 5
SA v DAL - Dallas, 6
POR v HOU - Houston, 7
ATL v MIA - Atlanta, 7

Nasty British and Short (hmmmm), Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

cleve 4
lakes 5
c's 5
nuggs 6
magic 5
sa 7
port 7
mia 7

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - GAYvaliers
LAL v UTA - GAYkers
BOS v CHI - seventy-SUXors
DEN v NOH - horNUTs
ORL v PHI - FAGic
SAS v DAL - maverICKs
POR v HOU - THE BEST FUCKING TEAM THAT IS BETTER THAN THE FUCKIN ROCKETS
ATL v MIA - hawks i guess i dunno

― josephcharles, Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:04 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

blold call

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link

THE BEST FUCKING TEAM THAT IS BETTER THAN THE FUCKIN ROCKETS

GAYzers?

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - cavs in 5
LA v UT - lakers in 4
BOS v CHI - celtics in 5
DEN v NO - nola in 6
ORL v PHI - magic in 6
SA v DAL - spurs in 7
POR v HOU - blazers in 7
ATL v MIA - heat in 6

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

fyi dudes GARNETT IS OUT for the playoffs :(((((((((((

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

c's still beat chi imo even tho they hav been rolling - after that rip celtics tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

^^

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

curious to see what kind of heroic shit pp is going to pull out his ass

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i was hoping maybe kg would pull the wheelchair stunt this time around

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe they could coordinate something where pierce leaves the court on stretcher then returns from the locker room a few minutes later RIDING ON KGS SHOULDERS

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

23, 24, Cs, billups, dwight, spurs, blaze, heat

last one probably wishful thinking.

lucked up (lukas), Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

wade is mega dangerous and beasley has been beastly lately - close series imo

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - cavs in 4
LAL v UTA - lakers in 5
BOS v CHI - celtics in 5
DEN v NO - hornets in 7
ORL v PHI - magic in 5
SA v DAL - spurs in 6
POR v HOU - blazers in 6
ATL v MIA - heat in 7

6335, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i41.tinypic.com/4rb4v4.jpg

beasleys 5 games since starting - pretty much in line w/his per minute averages from the last month or so too

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3418

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

22/5 in 19mins - 23/13 in 23mins O_O

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think wade is losing to the hawks

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link

btw beasley is enjoying a better stretch than roy heir apparent derick rose had all year - while i agree w/everyone that hes gonna be v good one thing people are missing is that rose is not a pure point - everyone is totally overrating his distributing abilities - his assist rate is at a combo guard level - billupsesque - he did get a fair amount of assists this year but thats just cause he always always has the ball

so people are kinda imagining a bigger more athletic chris paul but rose will never have nearly the point skill paul does while paul does have ridic shooting guard scoring capabilities - and its that multiple elite skills that marks nba offensive superstardom - cause opposing Ds basically cant prepare - they take away yr best thing and youve got another best thing waiting - not sure rose is gonna get there

beasley on the other hand shooting/driving/posting/rebounding hmmmm

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - cavs in 4
LAL v UTA - lakers in 5
BOS v CHI - celtics in 7 (w/out Garnett they are fucked)
DEN v NO - hornets in 6
ORL v PHI - magic in 5
SA v DAL - mavs in 6
POR v HOU - blazers in 7
ATL v MIA - heat in 6

Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

dudes picking the mavs over spurs = u mad

Dr. Phil, Thursday, 16 April 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

blold call

― ice cr?m, Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:12 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Celtics w/o Garnett are very beatable, but I'm rethinking that after seeing the 76ers lose to a could-not-care-less Celtics and needing OT to beat the Cavs' scrubs. If the Celtics were playing a team that gave even just the tiniest crap about winning they'd be in trouble - lucky for them the Sixers ain't it.

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

the celtics arent playing the sixers tho

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL

Magic Jewson (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

S-M-R-T

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I blame The Basketball Jones.

josephcharles, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

CLE v DET - cavs (.800 vs .475, says it all y'know)
LAL v UTA - lakers (a sloan-coached team will play tough, but...c'mon)
BOS v CHI - celtics (pierce still has some good chops left)
DEN v NO - denver (NO not playing its best ball as playoffs start, while denver's been hot)
ORL v PHI - magic (sixers succumb to the dwight howard effect)
SA v DAL - san antonio (spurs won't get far, but they'll get past the mavs)
POR v HOU - blazers (adelman-coached team will play tough, but blazer 3's will take 'em down)
ATL v MIA - heat (in a close series)

Aimless, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

(a sloan-coached team will play tough, but...c'mon)

if okur is playing it won't look like last tuesday but i saw deron kinda lose faith the other day when he realized he needed to basically drive in on every play for them to be competitive (like last year, but back then it seemed like one of many options). they're tough but 48 minutes of scoring is hard to come by there.

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

im quite disappointed in the jazz this year - feel like even tho they did get healthy at the end of the year all those injuries killd their flow

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

barkley otm the other night saying that this team(utah) doesn't possess their coaches personality.

Magic Jewson (carne asada), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

boozer wd srsly be pissing me off as a jazz fan tho, i've had to put up with LO for 5 years but that fool is ridiculous

attitude in spades (tremendoid), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i kinda feel like the league is passing sloan by - like why do his teams still foul so much when everyone else has figured out its pretty much the worst thing u can do

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The Jazz should probably start from scratch, I think. Let Boozer go, trade Kirilenko, and start with a young core with a new owner, a great PG, and a dynamic new coach.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

boozer doesnt play too much D but when hes healthy hes a beast in every other way - problem: never healthy - not so much his fault - and prince painting a purple stripe around his house is one of my fav news stories ever

if u paird cbooze w/a strong defensive center itd be a much better fit than his current scenario - also his name is the most hilarious imo - carlos boozer - its just perfect i dunno

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Boozer + Howard would be dynamite.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

simmons' column otm imo

swag serf (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

better counterfactual than kg: would yao have beat LA? I kinda think yes

"Bytchass of Juxberry" rules (hmmmm), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

simmons nailed it

moullet, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

all there in one article, something to be said for that

~'-.,,.-'~'-. .-'~'-.,,.-'~ (tremendoid), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers-lakers15-2009jun15,0,4342696.column

here u guys can have this dude gratis. hates phil > kobe > the lakers in that order. has had to sit through 4 big ones, 'simering'. cracking up over here

~'-.,,.-'~'-. .-'~'-.,,.-'~ (tremendoid), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link

So glad the "Chinese Magic Johnson" won an NBA chip.

Can't stop the dancing chickens (dyao), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Him and MENGKE BATEER are officially better than Yao now.

Can't stop the dancing chickens (dyao), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, that was a killer simmons column.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Did they bring him out to make the Maloofs feel better about themselves as overmatched legacy kids? Has he ever been discreetly stared at by a bunch of country club workers and had one of them say, "Fifty bucks says the Buss kid picks his nose."

am0n, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

link to simmons on kobe for ILH archival purposes:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090616&sportCat=nba

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

so because phil isn't fired up with rage/veins bulging out of his forehead he is "above it all"? pathetic. and what's with bitching about the parade? i hate parades in general, but shit like this:

How many people give it their all every day in their jobs, every year until retirement, 30, 40 and 50 years, with no chance of a parade -- as determined as Kobe, as focused as Kobe, as accomplished as Phil?

wtf does this have to do with the lakers specifically? i'd expect that from someone who doesn't watch sports, but not this guy

ok, sb away

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I don’t really care if the laker players all hate each other,if they are all fake and they don’t celebrate like people think they were supposed to. maybe cedric ceballos, eddie jones and elden Campbell all loved each other but they sucked and I still watched all their games. So fuck simmons and any other hack trying to take anything away from the lakers the world champion LAKERS!!!

carne asada, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

After the incredibly over-the-top celebration by the Celtics, almost anything would seem low-key by comparison.

I remember when the Lakers won their third of the Shaq era. They barely celebrated at all. By that standard, this was a fucking jubilee.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

basketball is dumb

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

has this been posted yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5iXjWb3egQ

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

look here's the thing about why the nba is horrid

every year when the playoffs begin i am like FUCK YEAH THIS OWNS SO HARD I LOVE BBALL THIS IS SO GLORIOUS ;_; and by the end of the postseason the spurs or the lakers have won again and it's basically like the ending of chinatown when john houston gets to rape his lil incestbaby granddaughter and jack nicholson cant do shit about it, it's awful. the only finals of the last decade that didn't infuriate me (ok i was neutral re: heat-mavs) were last year's and whenever the pistons sonned LA

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

otm :(

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

It sucks that the Lakers won. In the past 10 years, aside from the Lakers and Spurs, only the Celtics, Heat and Pistons won the championship (one year apiece).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

why nba sux

exhibit A:

http://www.everyjoe.com/nbaobsessed/files/2007/10/david_stern.jpg

am0n, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree that the biggest problem with the NBA is that if you build a dominant team (or in the Lakers/Celtics cases manage to steal enough players to build a dominant team) that it takes a lot of the drama out of the thing. But that's not really Stern's fault. Other than the 70s that's basically the way the NBA has been since its inception.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Dynasties can be cool, so long as the dynasty is a team I like.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

The second biggest problem with the NBA is that Lakers/Celtics have won so damn much. I totally sympathize with anyone hating both these teams.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

carne asada, (xxxposts) i'm with you on the inanity of celebration-self-righteousness, but dunno about your simmons comment. i mean, if the guy was trying to take away from the lakers, he failed epically: in the course of his article he anoints kobe as an NBA god (what he accomplished in the past 20 months ranks up there with anything that ever happened in the nba), calls gasol the second-best center, fisher "a terrific leader and character guy", and jackson the greatest coach ever. his main beef is with certain prevalent media narratives about WHY kobe and the lakers won (unselfishness, learned to love one another, etc...).

now the simers piece on the other hand, is total hater hack job.

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

the only finals of the last decade that didn't infuriate me (ok i was neutral re: heat-mavs) were last year's and whenever the pistons sonned LA

Oh, you mean last year when the team with the most titles in NBA history won again? That was a refreshing change from the norm.

I bet you will enjoy it when the Yankees win again this year you SON OF A BITCH. ;-)

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Looking at the list of the best players to play for the Celtics/Lakers and realizing how many of them were just flat out stolen from other teams (or from draft picks thieved from other teams) is amazing:

Lakers: Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Worthy, O'Neal, Bryant, Gasol

Celtics: Russell, Jones, Bird, Parrish, McHale, Garnett

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

never ban cankles

Thanks, Casey Westcott Fleet Foxes (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I would have zero problem with a new Celtics dynasty tbh. The Spurs and Lakers are just two of the most odious teams I can even imagine, albeit in different ways. Lakers don't really need explaining, they are just loathsome in a visceral and personal way, everything about them makes me sneer w/disgust; with the Spurs it's more about the poisonously boring, awful brand of basketball they play. I have hella respect for Popovich and some of their players (including Duncan even though he is the most horrible-to-watch great player ever) in a way that I can't even muster for the Lakers. Actually, just thinking about this is almost making me nostalgic for the days of Spurs domination, a sentiment that fills me w/self loathing like the gay dad in American Beauty ;_;

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, you mean last year when the team with the most titles in NBA history won again? That was a refreshing change from the norm.

I bet you will enjoy it when the Yankees win again this year you SON OF A BITCH. ;-)

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:12 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm a celtix fan u homo

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

tho actually i was just wondering about this - could i have rooted for that same team if they were wearing purple and gold? I think I really would've been able to somewhat, at least if phil jackson wasn't involved - i just love ray allen and kg that dang much and it would've been gratifying to see them win like that on any team, but it was just better by magnitudes that it ended with the celtics cornholing the lakers

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Nothing could inspire me to root for the Celtics. My hatred of their laundry was ingrained from such a young age. Whereas I don't even want to like the Lakers, but I almost can't help myself from rooting for them. Fandom is a strange thing.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i hate the lakers with a passion, kobe's gameface underbite was terrible, much-beloved derek fisher seems like a dbag imo, i could go on

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

really beyond a bulls championship i would have loved nothing more than to see yao and artest smiling and clutching the trophy this year but oh well

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, it's funny but i was watching the rockets lakers series with more interest than any of the hawks' series - was pullin for those dudes p hard

all music is gay (post above or below this if u agree) (cankles), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i demand an underbite pic!

swag serf (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lets do this, most interesting teams of the 2000s (since its officially in the books) NOT to win a championship:

05-08 phoenix suns (rip ssol)
05 and 06 mavericks, the natural suns nemesis and sorry lol dirk u lose to spurs again
07 golden state (a+ cinderella of the decade, would believe again)
09 rockets (lol mcgrady out of first round)

and...?

06 heat officially NOT interesting unless u love bennet salvatore, 04 pistons mildly fun for sheed buying wwf style championship belts and smacking the desperate lakers

schrödinger's googler (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i44.tinypic.com/6zwsxt.jpg

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

oh now that is just gross

narly dude lol (Clay), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

kobe spacing out there imagining how shaq's ass taste

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

swag serf (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i43.tinypic.com/30lnbxx.jpg

ramón gastro (omar little), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hi cankles!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/tripl3_a/Kobitch-2.gif

am0n, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i39.tinypic.com/t6ax53.gif

am0n, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

highlights of ur '09 champs

am0n, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/tripl3_a/KOBEOWNED.gif

am0n, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link

missed that play; very dope

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link


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