i dont get why pg would move to LAL apart from essentially romantic reasons. is it like accepted that pg would have a better chance of winning a chip with the lakers in the west? because afaict no current laker shows more promise than myles turner
― micah, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link
blinded by the lights
― Spottie, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link
maybe but idgi. anyway im glad larry is going, he totally fucked up every free agent signing and is clearly out of ideas
― micah, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link
looks like a bunch of espn's nba writers are getting laid off. stein, abbott, ford once the draft is over.
― circles, Saturday, 29 April 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link
more chat about that in this thread: sports and/or sport writing
― Spottie, Saturday, 29 April 2017 06:34 (seven years ago) link
They're gonna add a ton of work to the other writers with no pay raise huh
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
He really should have gone against his coaching tenure principle and kept Carlisle.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link
I never, ever question why anyone would sign in LA. Handsome young extremely rich athlete says he wants to move to LA I have no arguments.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link
ya its a place thats all set up for famous people
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 April 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link
i don't think free agents should look to the success and examples of previous Laker heroes, they should look at how a player as bad as Nick Young comes to town and becomes a meme legend and hooks up with Iggy Azalea.
― nomar, Sunday, 30 April 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link
Most players have other priorities other than winning a championship, whether they'd like to admit it or not
― Spottie, Sunday, 30 April 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link
yeah winning is a factor but there are other factors which is fair u know
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 April 2017 02:49 (seven years ago) link
is there a free agent who has signed with the knicks or nets who didn't say, "I came here to win"?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link
jeremy lin?
― nice cage (m bison), Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:48 (seven years ago) link
Well Marbury and Carmelo just wanted to go home xp
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:49 (seven years ago) link
Like marbury was pretty open about just wanting to be back near Coney Island
https://theundefeated.com/features/paul-pierce-leaves-imprint-on-nba/
pierce will actually probably be the most forgettable HOFer of his era
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
http://bkref.com/tiny/wkZaL
pretty crazy how similar their numbers are. pierce is basically a slightly worse version of melo
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
pierce better on ts%, efg%, off and def rating, etc. it is close but he was a better shooter, more efficient, and actually played in the finals a couple times.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
not gonna read that undefeated piece but i do agree pierce won't be a beloved HOFer outside of one market.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
kevin k a slightly worse version of whoever is the worst at trolling
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
pierce was definitely a better defender. melo will probably age better tho. melo's peak also higher
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
fwiw when i suggested that melo was slightly better than PP i was assuming his last 4-5 years would be a smoother decline than pierce's. could be wrong
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link
pierce was kinda fun as the 4 on that wizards team. kinda.
― Spottie, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
pierce also generally doo-doo in the playoffs
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
also better shooting %s, net ratings, etc. than melo in the playoffs lol
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link
i am not exactly a melo fan
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
i'm just struggling to find a meaningful number where he looks better than pierce in the playoffs. i'm open-minded to the idea but it's not really happening.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link
well when i said he was doo doo in the offs i meant in general for a HOFer, not necessarily in comparison to melo. i assume the reason his PER is lower than melo's is mostly due to higher usage and lower turnover percentage
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
er, lower usage and more turnovers
ah ok, that may be true re: general HOFers.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link
pierce has a pretty big lead there in the regression-based advanced stats due to slightly higher efficiency and better defense. PER is a witches brew and i don't buy it in general.
i don't really know where the bar is for the basketball hall of fame these days.
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link
i think his heroic return within minutes from a devastating knee injury that would have crippled lesser players for a season or two during their finals win was certainly legendary
― nomar, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
remember when he got stabbed in the neck and face in a nightclub? i always forget that.
― nomar, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link
looking the recent HoF classes now, pierce is pretty far above the bar. if this was baseball he'd probably be one of the guys who has to sweat it out for 5 years before people let him in. we're more inclusive with our HoF over here.
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
guys like melo and pierce probably wouldn't make it in a baseball style hall. melo is basically steve garvey and pierce is like...kirk gibson?
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
Paul Pierce has had a lot of big moments, many that Raps fans in particular won't forget. He was rarely a top 5 player in a season statewide but he was definitely memorable
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link
*statswise
ask any knicks fan how they feel about him lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWwDzBkUdw&feature=youtu.be
liked this video from coach nick. i loved stockton too, lol pvmic
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 03:50 (seven years ago) link
Paul Pierce is top 20 all-time in scoring. Would a guy who was top 20 all time in hits not make the baseball hall of fame?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link
iirc the guy who is #1 in hits in not in the baseball hof
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:33 (seven years ago) link
Yah the goat isn't in baseballs a mess
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link
you can't compare 1:1 like that between those sports because baseball teams carry twice as many players and has a way longer history. the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player
that said a good answer to your question would be rafael palmeiro, who is 26th all time in hits and might not have made the HOF even without the PED stuff
xp lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link
baseball is terrible, why are we talking about the baseballs
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:37 (seven years ago) link
literally none of the mlb players have ever dunked, all of them are disqualified from the halla fame
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link
"the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player"
I would hope so
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link
mike trout dunks
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link
Baseball >>>> football (as of 2015 for next)
Basketball obv better than both
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:42 (seven years ago) link
mike trout doesnt dunk in game, shit dont count
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:44 (seven years ago) link