i pretty much agree with the above but have no idea how DPOY shakes out and figure d'antoni has a shot at COY
― Clay, Thursday, 15 March 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
or yeah casey forgot about casey
this is the ballot im sending in as a voting member of the press
mvp - kawhi leonarddpoy - deangelo russellroy - lonzo ball6moy - devin harris mip - lonzo ball (first rookie to ever win roy and mip)coy - erik spoelstra
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Thursday, 15 March 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link
Very accurate but not enough spurs tbf
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 15 March 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
casey should be coy
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link
MVP - harden will take it tho i find his flopping ahorrent and would happily vote elsewhere
DPOY - gobert, i think 50 games is enoughROY - mitchell (i hope)6MOY - louMIP - dipoCOY - casey, though he will be exposed again in the playoffs
― micah, Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link
Kinda hearing some mcmillan talk for coy, not like he should be #1 but may be worth a few top 3 votes. He’s def surprised me.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link
yeah he changed his style along with the times, impressive for sure
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
i think the pacers team talent is being used about as well as you could hope for yeah
― micah, Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link
I voted Harden MVP. He's been a bridesmaid several times now and set himself up to win this time. Brow ought to pick up a few votes from Harden haters. LeBron will get his votes from his devotees, but... (shrug) nah.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 16 March 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
seems pretty conclusive
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link
hah
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link
nobody mentioned my DPOY pick, a fella named Kevin
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
durant? (mentioned by me upthread if so)
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link
wow the hivemind truly rules ilh
― Clay, Friday, 16 March 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
oh yes there it is
i feel that he's been better than draymond by quite a bit
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
he was for a while but they kinda reversed about halfway through imo. KD been a little more lax and dray's turned it up.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:14 (six years ago) link
MVP - LaMarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard (tie 1st)DPOY - Kyle Anderson6th - Manu GinobiliCOY - Gregg PopovichMIP - Dejounte MurrayROY - Derrick White
― spursfan69, Friday, 16 March 2018 00:16 (six years ago) link
kyle anderson is a steals maniac, good shot blocker too. wonder what kind of defensive numbers he would put up if he played starter minutes.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
kyle has started 54 of the 60 games he's played fyi
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Friday, 16 March 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
didnt realize he was playing 27 minutes a game this season. cool
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link
well, when kawhi and rudy have both been out, their SF slot has been pretty thin. he even occasionally starts at PF with 3 Gs
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Friday, 16 March 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
a guy who should get 6MOY votes but might not: nick vanvleet
was thinking today about how guys like macmillan and scotty brooks don't get the COY buzz mainly because of their bad reputations lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 16 March 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link
lol fred* vanvleet
Franks been awesome
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 March 2018 03:01 (six years ago) link
van vleet should be in the 6man running altho i don't think he has the raw stats for it. he plays in crunch time for the 3rd best team in the league and that should count.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 March 2018 03:08 (six years ago) link
dpoy
Draymond Green. Defense. Good. pic.twitter.com/GOD4bNqjU2— Drew Shiller (@DrewShiller) March 17, 2018
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 18 March 2018 06:25 (six years ago) link
James Harden doesn’t want any DNP-rest nights down the stretch of the regular season. “I’m good, I wanna play,” Harden said.— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) March 23, 2018
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 23 March 2018 03:20 (six years ago) link
fwiw harden is known for wanting to play
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2018 05:27 (six years ago) link
also known for whining about not winning mvp
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 23 March 2018 05:55 (six years ago) link
yeah i mean im not saying he doesnt want it
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2018 06:01 (six years ago) link
just think maybe he should be focused on not breaking down in the playoffs again.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:04 (six years ago) link
wld be wise for sure
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2018 06:05 (six years ago) link
not like he cldnt take a game or two off and still win it too
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2018 06:06 (six years ago) link
they've got a pretty easy schedule it would be dumb not to sit him against some of those teams
― Clay, Friday, 23 March 2018 06:07 (six years ago) link
also got home court wrapped m/l
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:08 (six years ago) link
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html
interesting that the MVP tracker tool on bkref has cp3 and steph 2 and 3 despite all the time they've missed
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 March 2018 02:32 (six years ago) link
stephs advanced numbers this year were on par with his unanimous mvp year. dude is shooting nearly 60% from 2p
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 26 March 2018 04:15 (six years ago) link
DPOY and all defense thoughts from pelton:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23032582/2018-nba-all-defense-defensive-player-year-best-picks-position
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link
awww i hope dejounte gets chosen!
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
wow al horford right behind dray there huh and he can play center for a whole game if he feels like it and shoots 15% better from three
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
still scared of rebounds tho
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
keep in mind we are comparing him to dray here
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, April 5, 2018 8:36 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago)
shooting 3s not really considered part of defense iirc
― k3vin k., Friday, 6 April 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
its part of basketball tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
just a thought but what if the best defense is good offense?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link
so...harden is actually....good at defense?
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:23 (six years ago) link
hey i don't make the laws
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:35 (six years ago) link
the laws are the laws
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link
hitting home runs is the best thing a baseball player can do but it does not necessarily mean that the guy who hits the most home runs is the best player or even the best hitter, makes u think
― k3vin k., Monday, 9 April 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
none of this is to say mitchell hasn't had a sick year, he has, but simmons is way better and we should give the award to the better dude imo
― k3vin k., Monday, 9 April 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link
i agree that hes been better and will prob win but i think mitchell has been great and also i think simmons shd be disqualified for redshirting
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
this breakdown of defensive positional guarding percentages is super cool: https://public.tableau.com/profile/knarsu3#!/vizhome/DefensivePositions/Dashboard1
Check out Ben Simmons
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
ha yeah pretty evenly distributed as you might expect
― k3vin k., Monday, 9 April 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
lowe's opinionshttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23107445/zach-lowe-2017-18-picks-nba-mvp-defensive-player-year-rookie-year-more-awards
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
hard to argue with any of those picks, tho I’m agnostic on coach of the year
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
I’m more and more convinced that an MVP vote for lebron is basically indefensible.
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
lowe’s love of raw plus-minus stats but not adjusted plus-minus stats bugs me tho lol
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
i'm disinclined to reward any of the coaches that ended up in the 3-8 western conference mess with a CoY vote.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
I just don’t think we know enough about coaching value and voting on it is silly
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
Golliver's povhttps://www.si.com/nba/2018/04/11/2017-18-nba-awards-cavaliers-rockets-lebron-james-harden-ben-simmons
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
most of these awards are dumb but COY seems the dumbest behind MIP
My defense of a lebron vote would be solely that he is still great and it would be a make up award for some previous years
I wouldn’t actually vote for him though with harden existing this year
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link
Having to completely remake lebrons custom built team around him midstream is also a serious strike against any real mvp candidacy too as lowe goes into extensively
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
he was prob the worst defender in the league this year
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link
Aw cmon that’s not true
He was the worst defender in the league for like six weeks tops
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
i understand conserving yr energy but i feel like he cldve balanced it a lil better between offense and defense
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
he def wasn't the worst, he's about average over 82 games a this point probably tho def very good when he dials it in
― k3vin k., Thursday, 12 April 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link
dialed it in for prob 10mins this season the rest he took off he was really exceptionally bad, its not a coincidence the cavs were also insanely bad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 April 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link
yeah we are in general agreement that his defense is not great overall
― k3vin k., Thursday, 12 April 2018 03:03 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/sports/nba-dwane-casey-raptors-coach-of-the-year.html
In a vote of his peers, Dwane Casey of the Toronto Raptors has been selected as the National Basketball Coaches Association’s coach of the year for the 2017-18 season — while Brad Stevens of the Boston Celtics stunningly failed to win a single vote from fellow coaches.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
Perfect timing
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
lol i knew it
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
oh wait thats the peer award still i think the real one will have the same outcome
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
very weird
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 9 May 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
2018 NBA All-Defensive teams:First team: Rudy Gobert, Anthony Davis, Victor Oladipo, Jrue Holiday, Robert Covington.Second team: Joel Embiid, Draymond Green, Al Horford, Dejounte Murray, Jimmy Butler.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) May 23, 2018
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link
huh, dipo?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
heard rumblings of his defense being amazing this year. covington over draymond seems a little suspect to me. but fair enough, he deserves a lot of credit and dray was cruising at 80% all year.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
almost surprised roberson didn't make it even tho he only played 35 games or so
― Clay, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
dejounte!!!
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link
al shdve been first team
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link
ALL NBAhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-zN6-VMAAjELY.jpg
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link
Lillard first team O__o
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
these, wld not be my lists lol
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
mine wld just be 15 marcus smarts
― sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
On the bright side, we don’t have to hear about Dame not getting any respect ever again.— A.K ⚖️ (@Kungu_NBA) May 24, 2018
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 24 May 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
don't understand how KAT could make it after the year he's had.
who's out here voting for TREVOR ARIZA for all-nba?
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 25 May 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link