only thing i wld say is he doesnt have the defensive or athletic ceiling near any of those guys, hes more like...........harden
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
but a harden who plays joyfully and unselfishly, sounds pretty great!
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
i think u cld also compare him to steph or kyrie tho obvs those are smaller guys and so a little different
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
harden is closest tho, theyre both chuckers
but harden is an efficient chucker something that is apparently possible now
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
another big game tonite
― ciderpress, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link
he is good at basketball
― k3vin k., Saturday, 9 November 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link
Doncic is probably done for the night. The line he achieved in three quarters -- 24 points, 14 boards, eight assists -- has only been done in nine other regular season since last season's All-Star break. Doncic has now done it three times this week.— Bobby Karalla (@bobbykaralla) November 10, 2019
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
on the second night of a back to back, man. I miss being 20
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
http://bkref.com/tiny/6Rdfq
looks like only the fifth 24-14-8 on a back to back since 83, joining barkley, bird, jeff ruland(!), and...david lee?
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link
luka basically a combo of all those guys (idk who jeff ruland is)
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
consecutive games of 24-14-8, that is
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:14 (four years ago) link
would be cool if luka was part jeff ruland
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
hello handsome
https://kronozio.blob.core.windows.net/images/card/6f86d5ae55494a72970c13e5c85b1646_front.jpg
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link
lmao
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link
both guys wearing the same shoes except one is hi top and one is mid
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link
lol that is exactly chicago mike d'antoni from the reg season thread!
― mike dan tony (Clay), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
lmao IT IS
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
what is chicago mike d'antoni from the reg season thread
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link
xp with a name like hat he oughta be coachin DA BULLS
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:21 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
wld be a fitting last stop for him
― lag∞n, Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he gets fat, grows the mustache out, holding polish sausage and spilling sauerkraut while he yells at the ref, what a fucking life that would be
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:27 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
jeff ruland looks like this ^^^
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
but thats not the regular season thread
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
sir YES IT IS it is the regular degular thread
― i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
i feel like you guys arent being clear tbqh
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
Just read up on him. Getting an Achilles injury from an arena worker accidentally slamming cart into the back of his foot...
― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
damn
― lag∞n, Sunday, 10 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
i forgot luka wears 77, definitely an honorary ilxor
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:05 (four years ago) link
exactly he is one of us
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
luka already does that harden thing on a regular basis where it seems like he didn’t have a great game and then you look at the box score and he had 34 on 21 shots
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link
both him and harden have super elite level ability to read and react to the defense that keeps them a half a step ahead of everyone even tho theyre technically slow, its the opposite of robotic play (tho harden is often scientific)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
thinking abt it one thing that will determine how far luka will go is his 3pt shooting, his % have been pretty bad so far ~33%, a lot of that is he just takes really difficult shots, like stepping back five feet and shooting from 30, just adjusting his shot selection which fwiw i have full confidence he can do cld help him level up one level
but the thing that cld cause him to level up like three levels is learning how to hit difficult 3s like james harden, which really is a combo of shot selection and getting better at shooting, like he hit a deep jab step 3 last night that is such a better shot than a stepback, or like doing a small stepback that keeps him on balance is viable
not sure if he has the stuff to be a super elite shooter but if he does it wld go a long way towards making his game true superstar ready, the blueprint he has now with not great outside shooting and lots of flippy stuff in the paint seems like it cld be exploitable by a very good determined playoff defense, tho his great passing offsets that somewhat
the other path is getting good teammates and just shooting less creating more, which if u look at the mavs front office history might be a big lift, also they run the risk of getting stuck in the middle with one great player and a great coach they cld always be sniffing the playoffs even if the rest of the roster is bad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
+having bad teammates is causing him to carry too heavy a load especially for a young player, he got tired and a little out of control at the end of the game last night started throwing his body around which is obvs not great
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
tho the sight of him bleeding from the mouth making very eastern european smiling youve got to be kidding me gestures at the refs was pretty charming, tough guy for sure
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
he does seem to love getting out there and mixing it up, wld be a fun guy to root for
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
btw lol at tommy last night “wheres this kid from slovenia we gotta send him back there buy him a plane ticket”
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
Oh my god you’re still skeptical
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
This is like when I thought James harden was a sixth man type
feel like my analysis is pretty fawning tbf, no ones game is complete their second year
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Already elite at reading the D/seeing the floor. Prime Chris Paul-level of orchestrating things. Shot looks good tho? Good form, consistent stroke, nice arc. Yeah prob just needs to take better shots + get better at making difficult ones.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
he has that quality of being able to make the defense panic and make mistakes too like last night he repeatedly sucked four celtics into the paint and hit wide open shooters (who then missed), when obvs the celtics shdve just played him straight up and let him take his floaters or just sent one man to double team
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
tho it cldve been just disrespect for the rest of their roster too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
anyway i think we can all agree that the bbiomechanics guy should have the last word on lukas jumper re adaptively groove variations in arm swing timing
Although we can adaptively groove variations in arm swing timing relative to 2nd ground contact:🔺It is substantially earlier than the R foot contact 🔺Energy must be organized w/upper body dominant (swing like motion of arms, late wrist, & slight pause at top)@bballbreakdown pic.twitter.com/vufKF9MmAq— BBiomechanics (@BBiomechanics) November 12, 2019
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
I’ve pondered making a parody of that acct
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
BBiomechanicBs
― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
i think it already is a parody acct
A video of Greg ostertag jumping 3 inches that focuses on contralateral hip flexion
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
iirc no one gave me a satisfactory answer when i asked why he wasn't the consensus #1 on draft night
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
cos he didnt play in the ncaa
― de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
That’s true but he’s slow so how does he do that and could a 19 year old Luka Doncic maybe get better at it― Matt Armstrong, Friday, November 2, 2018 2:39 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark
im too lazy to find it now but i remember reading or hearing somewhere that harden is elite elite at deceleration, so he's stopping and then starting back up again before defenders can catch up to him
― J0rdan S., Friday, November 2, 2018 5:52 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is a cool article on his similarities to harden: https://www.wsj.com/articles/luka-doncic-big-data-nba-11552413548
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
🖼
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link
He has nice arc but obv isn't super consistent, hence only being a mid 70s FT shooter. Needs Seth Curry to give him a tune up.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 24 August 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/gcV16VTjR3— Out Of Context NBA (@oocnba) August 24, 2020
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
That’s great. A much more endearing reminder of his youth and humanity than when they used to show Lebron biting his nails on the bench.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 24 August 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Luka is a master manipulator. Toys with the entire defense on this possession. In total control. Incredible player. pic.twitter.com/iCTQfL0KBF— Jackson Frank (@jackfrank_jjf) January 26, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
Sources: Luka Doncic has reported to training camp weighing more than 260 pounds the last two years. "I know I've got to do better," Doncic said about his conditioning. https://t.co/vuk7WSHxI3https://t.co/vuk7WSHxI3— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) December 8, 2021
― Spottie, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
lol between him a jokic the balkans are really showing the nba how to live
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
chunky boy
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
luka donthicc etc etc
― Spottie, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link
excuse me jokic has been in shape for like 2 years now
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
yeh he figured it out
― Spottie, Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link
hes still got a lil dough, still claiming him as a fellow fattie
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X93GyqpdM3w
― Spottie, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link
jokic will be back hes a husky boy at heart
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
no doubt, this is the "im trying not to get fined" body, hes gonna have a boris in charlotte moment
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link
he’s a changed man!!
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
let me say this from firsthand experience as a fat kid who lost a bunch of weight as an adolescent and then gained that shit back in my 30s, no the fuck hes not
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 9 December 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
Since Jan 1st, Luka is shooting the most pull-up threes per-game in the league (7.4) and he's made 37.8% of them. He's about 15 miles past unguardable when he has it going.— Paul Don't Lie (@PaulHeadleyNBA) March 21, 2022
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link