ayton def a case of tight hips (too much video games)
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 January 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
I think one of the ingredients in 3 teams passing on Luka was front office and owners inability to shake the residual belief that you never know what you're getting with a Euro/intl player. Anyone paying attn knew Luka was a special case but teams had some reason to feel snakebitten. These are the players who didn't play US college ball and were taken in the top 10 in the 4 drafts preceding the one we're discussing:
2017: Frank Ntilikina2016: Dragan Bender, Thon Maker, Giorgios Papagiannis2015: Kristaps Porzingis, Maria Hezonja, Emmanuel Mudiay2014: Dante Exum, Dario Saric2013: none
Kind of remarkable, actually -- ALL busts except Zinger and I suppose Saric, who was picked 12th as a draft and stash by the Process Sixers so doesn't really apply.
Call it the Skita Stink.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 25 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link
Collin Sexton is averaging 26 ppg while shooting 52/46/82 so if there’s a stat that says he’s not a top 30 offensive player rn it’s probably a bad stat― Matt Armstrong, Monday, January 25, 2021 12:57 PM (twenty minutes ago)offensive rankingsBPM - 28538 - 34 win shares - 47
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 25 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
Thon Maker was an American prospect essentially, Exum is Australian which doesn’t count
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 25 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
Mudiay signed with SMU and wasn’t really a foreign prospect at all
all fair - i just took the names that didn't have college stats. i don't think it has any effect on my point tho
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 25 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link
I was an Ayton skeptic and Luka lover, but my pull with the Suns front office wasn't enough to overcome their 'local kid makes good' bias for Ayton.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
Thanks for these numbers which don’t affect my point of view at all, are exactly what I was talking about etc― Matt Armstrong, Monday, January 25, 2021 2:10 PM (one hour ago)bookmarkflaglink
no stats are gospel so if you want to believe that sexton is a top 30 offensive player those stats shouldn't dissuade you from that but they would indicate he's closer to 30 than 1
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 January 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
i feel like there were lots of concerns about luka's athleticism and you can see why, it's not like there is much athleticism to his game, he's just so good at basketball that it doesn't matter. there's no real test to quantify how fast a guy's first step is and luka just consistently blows past pretty anyone who guards him and i can see why you would watch him do that in europe and wonder if he would still be able to do it vs great wing defenders in the NBA. also i bet there were ppl who thought he would have trouble finishing at the rim bcuz of the lack of athleticism but that discounts again the "being good at basketball" part where you can win out w/ creativity and skill, also he's pretty strong
there was just always a huge amount of overthinking happening when looking at a 19 year old who won euroleague regular season and finals MVP. in a way it should've been one of the easiest no 1 picks ever
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
you know crazy abt lukas drive game is he almost never gets all the way to the basket but hes so go at getting almost all the way there putting his shoulder into his defender and somehow everytime rotating his body so that he gets off a quality floater/almost layup, and then of course hes got great touch too so they go in a lot, being super strong helps too
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
i dont think ive ever seen anyone use that part of the game as much or as well as he does, the like in between the in between game and at the rim game, tho he takes a fair amount of just regular in between shots too
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
for sure if i close my eyes and picture luka scoring it's him getting into the lane bumping the rim protector w/ his shoulder, pivoting and shooting a standing shot from like 2 feet away from the basket. i would say that's his signature shot aside from step back 3 pointer that clangs off the side of the rim
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
his stepback is so ugly, a disgrace
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link
He has that nash balance and patience around the hoop, but in a bigger frame
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
Luka has one of the nastiest crossovers in basketball history, that’s the frame from a lot of what he does
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
hes constantly doing lil hesitation moves too, and everyone is terrified of is passing, really keeps defenders off balance in many ways
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link
The reason why Embiid is the MVP is the Sixers are two games upon the East with him and 0-3 and down by 11 to the Pistons early in the 2nd without him.
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
upon = up on
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:40 (three years ago) link
Lebron James
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link
Highest scoring average in age 36 season or older in NBA history1. Malone (99-00): 25.5 PPG2. LeBron (20-21): 25.2 PPG3. Kareem (85-86): 23.4 PPG4. Malone (00-01): 23.2 PPG5. Jordan (01-02): 22.9 PPG— pickuphoop (@pickuphoop) January 26, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link
Always love when lebron has crazy scoring games he’s usually so consistent 27/7/7
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:55 (three years ago) link
Jokic has 17 double doubles to start the season. This is third all-time, behind Giannis who had 19 last season and Bill Walton who had 34! I find it amazing that Walton is that far in front for number 1.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link
I had an edible so those numbers might not be exactly right
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link
Bulls shot 2-8 from FT line in 1st quarter.They haven't been back yet.— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) January 26, 2021
passes the eye test, this team is shockingly soft
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link
We got another nut puncher
Jamal Murray has been ejected after this Flagrant 2 pic.twitter.com/5edqiiMtyQ— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) January 26, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:05 (three years ago) link
MPJ having a pretty amazing season so far. Defense is a lot better and it seems like he’s a legit 3 point sniper
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link
yeah hes a shooter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link
Through games on Jan. 25, which members of the Denver Nuggets have done the most (or least) with their minutes during the 2020-21 #NBA season, per TPA? pic.twitter.com/eceH9TnDBm— NBA Math (@NBA_Math) January 26, 2021
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
looks like caris levert had successful surgery to remove the lump from his kidney and is expected to make a full recovery
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link
big honey floating to the moon in that graphic
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
Yeah that’s another thing about MPJ, for all his wackiness the advances stats like him too
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
Monte being better than the other guards passes the eye test too, he’s looked really good
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
mpj was the top prospect in his hs class, it was just the back injury that scared teams off, if he can stay healthy hes big talent, crazy shooter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link
lmao
Shaq DMs artist who Photoshopped Donovan Mitchell dunking on him: ‘Shut yo dumb a-s up’ https://t.co/gvhgI4mWZN— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) January 25, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link
yeah a ball-bledsoe starting backcourt is just not going to win a ton of games
Report: Pelicans discussing Lonzo Ball and J.J. Redick trades https://t.co/qaRt0qFDog— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) January 26, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link
RIP Sekou Smith of NBA TV of Covid
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link
oh man wtf
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link
interesting they would choose bledsoe but i guess his contract is gonna end sooner than lonzo's next one
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link
also remembering that lonzo hired klutch which has a bad relationship w/ the pelicans bcuz of brow so maybe both sides just want to be done w/ it
I still want to believe in lonzo but if you can’t make it work with Ingram and Zion idk
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link
hes passive. prob cos he doesnt want to shoot free throws. not good.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link
lonzos a backup and its not just his shooting hes an all around bad scorer doesnt “put pressure on the rim”
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
RIP Sekou, that sucks
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link
i think lonzo can still be a helpful player on the right team, he can defend both guard spots and is a good passer... pels are one of the slowest paced teams in the league, it’s not a good fit. the problem is the salary he’s going to want
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
I can’t abide these blue rockets jerseys
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
you’d think with ingram, zion, and lonzo they’d figure out a way to play a little faster
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link
jvg might be out of date
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link
svg rather