Issel is in the pile of guys who poured on points in the pre-Jordan era with like Terry Cummings, Kiki Vandeweghe, Jack Sikma, and more prominently Gervin, English, Dantley. Maybe instead of good-stats-bad-team guys they are good-stats-bad-era?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
Yah same had never heard of issel
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
issell was coach of the nuggets during my young collecting basketball cards days, so shiny skybox gold and a bad suit is how he lives in my memory
― Clay, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
Have to assume those numbers include ABA, I think Issel spent a good chunk of his career there (also Dr J so high up).
good call, that's what it is. it should really be nba totals only!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
i feel the aba totals should be included
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
Maybe instead of good-stats-bad-team guys they are good-stats-bad-era?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:35 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah the 70s were kinda the nbas lost decade
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CM8AAOSweZ9ei6YD/s-l400.jpgspeak, memory
― Clay, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:39 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
spoken like a dan issel fan who's deep undercover
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
i dan even know what issel about
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
The reason the NBA and ABA merged was because the ABA succeeded in signing a high percentage of the available hoops talent and was regularly grabbing away high NBA draft picks by offering them more money. This resulted in the ABA producing a high quality, enjoyable product that compared well with the NBA. Those ABA stats are worthy of respect.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
i respect them, and i also respect the fact that they weren't accumulated in the nba
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
I dan even own an issel
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
they weren't accumulated in the nba
The ABA and the NBA became as one, eternally merged and subsumed into one another, like the Holy Trinity, but with only two components.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
also the letters are almost the same
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link
and american and national mean the same thing in this case
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
one could go as far as to say it was the same sport played with very similar rules
― Clay, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
its disrespectful to dr j to not include the aba numbers, which is frankly beyond the pale
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
as mod i declare aba stats to be valid and canon
― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
Blake Griffin this season:31.1 MPG12.3 PPG36.5 FG%30.5 3P% (worst in NBA, min 6+ 3PA)6.2 3PA/GHe hasn’t dunked since 2019. pic.twitter.com/ONmt3rgIvC— StatMuse (@statmuse) February 12, 2021
― k3vin k., Friday, 12 February 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link
Blake was always gonna get cooked younger than most but jeez
― Clay, Friday, 12 February 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link
brutal
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link
wonder if hes gonna pick up that $39m option next year haha
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link
that offseason buzz about how blake looked good and could maybe be a piece for a contender not looking quite right
― J0rdan S., Friday, 12 February 2021 04:13 (three years ago) link
trade bait talk
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 12 February 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link
Going out sad.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 06:17 (three years ago) link
Steph is on a heater my friends
Steph Curry over his last eight games: 282 points, (35.3 per game) 96-for-169 from the field, 53-for-101 from beyond the arc.— Nick Friedell (@NickFriedell) February 12, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 07:09 (three years ago) link
John Collins shot 31/39 in his two games against Dallas this year
― Heez, Friday, 12 February 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link
the world needs a steph mvp season
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link
His numbers are on par with his unanimous mvp season they just need to win more games.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
feel like if he keeps rolling and no one else does theyll prob win enough game for him to get it
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
maybe but when there are multiple worthy options so much of the mvp race has to do with buzz and narratives, and Jokic and Embiid are winning big in that column right now
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
kinda think its unlikely that embiid will continue to produce at current levels for the whole season, jokic on the other hand could even drop off some and still have a good case
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
i'm hearing "the numbers" do not like jokic's defensive season at all.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
eh defense shmeefense
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
yeah Embiid's conditioning will get him in the end. remains to be seen whether mvp voters care about Joker's D
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
you guys lebron is getting it if he plays a full season
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
no sort of guaranteed imo
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
if anything the voters will be happy to give it to someone who hasnt won before should the opportunity arise
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
also looking upthread i'm sad about Blake. Hopefully his career can end with a dunkfest a la Kobe's last game to remind us how awesome it was to watch him back in the day. Although maybe that would just be sadder
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
the lebron narrative has been strong but seems to be dipping a bit of late. he had a better case for it last year i think.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
hes 13th in scoring, sorry lebron is canceled
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link
i think the fact that he didn't win last year and then they rolled everyone in the playoffs will cause a portion of the voting body to "correct" that. but his analytical case is really strong too.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
if the lakers finish with the best record in the west and he continues this level of play i think he will win it... it will prob be deserved if the sixers finish first in the east i think embiid will have a shoti’m not see i steph having much of a chance unless the warriors get a top 4 seed which doesn’t seem possible
― J0rdan S., Friday, 12 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
otm
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
nash the last guy to win without being top 10 in scoring?
― Clay, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
sounds right without searching re nash
Draymond Green has tallied 10+ AST in each of his last 5 games, all of which he started at center. The only other player to reach 10+ AST in 5 straight games in which they started at center is Nikola Jokic (since starters began being tracked in 1970-71). @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/RHjEAITHUR— NBA.com/Stats (@nbastats) February 12, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
thats wild
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
whole league is on a heater
If you're wondering whether 3PT shooting is up this season or not, last year's league leader in 3PT% was the Jazz at 38.0%This year, the Clippers lead at 42.2% with NINE teams above 38%— BBALLBREAKDOWN (@bballbreakdown) February 13, 2021
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
empty gym effect.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
yeah need to see those numbers compared to just the bubble
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link