NBA 2020-21 reg season 1st half thread

Me watching steph: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

Me watching the warriors when steph sits: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.

It’s so weird that the nets can really compete for a chip at this point. Aside from the somewhat compelling weirdos on the squad the franchise is blah and boring. Like I can’t even hate them or anything just no personality. I don’t even know a nets fan and I live in the Tri-state.

the rest of the team is prob a bottom 5 roster in the NBA

DRAY v KLAY is vindicated once again.

if you took draymond off the team and put klay on it would prob still be a bottom 5 roster

it's starting to get weird that the warriors front office is still considered good

i think theyre ok in the FO. getting dlo as KD left and flipping him for wiggins and minny's pick was good. but they have not drafted well with the picks theyve had outside wiseman which was kind of a no-brainer.

when was their last good draft move - picking dray in 2012? idk how much credit a FO should get for signing free agents (iggy, 2013?) or kd who was really signed by dray

i don't agree at all that getting russell was good! he sucks, and they traded him for another guy who sucks so they could bank draft picks while wasting steph's prime.

they're incredibly lucky that the wolves had a reason to overpay for russell or they would have been stuck with a mediocre point guard on a max contract

2020 wiseman (2), mannion (48), jessup (51)
2019 poole (28), paschall (41), oni (58)
2018 evans (28)
2017 none
2016 damian jones (30)
2015 looney (30)
2014 none
2013 none

not exactly a lot of high impact players. granted, theyve traded away a fair number of picks and theyve been towards the end of the first round most of the time, but yikes. the 2015 draft had a lot of good players go in the 2nd round (harrell, richaun holmes, josh richardson, osman, norm powell) that would be pretty helpful to them right now.

wiggins is way overpaid, but that minny pick will be good. i think it was a long-term move with a short-term kick in the pants. and wiggins has been at least playable.

like if minny doesnt get a top 3 pick (probably pretty likely given the way draft odds are setup) it goes to gs this year. a top 5 pick in this draft is going to be a very good player.

yeah i just haven't agreed with the process at all because even if it works it's going to waste a bunch of prime steph years.

i’ve defended them before on the draft picks thing... the heat did the same thing during the bron years (pick low ceiling immediate role players at the end of the draft) and then right after that went on one of the better strings of drafting in the league

they also put a coach in place that fostered a style of play/culture that got kevin durant to go there in FA and create possibly the best team of all time, should count for something

maybe there was some luck in the russell thing but it netted them one of the most valuable trade pieces in the league rn idk how that’s not considered a huge win for them

one could make the argument they should be flipping or packaging those picks (incl wiseman) for legit grown up dudes but they already have $174m on the payroll this year and $160m next so it's kinda rough. having so much money tied up in klay not a big help atm

yeah i just haven't agreed with the process at all because even if it works it's going to waste a bunch of prime steph years.

i guess the question is a. can you get beal for wiseman + wolves pick b. can you actually win a title in the next 2-3 years with steph, klay, beal, wiggins, draymond and whatever bench you're able to cobble together. it feels like a steep price to pay to me.

i feel like they'll ultimately take the path of least resistance which is picking a young player to go w/ wiseman, extending steph to keep him a warrior and just playing it out w/ some fun seasons that don't really lead to serious title contention. and i'm not sure i would really blame them

Draymond gets 10% worse every year and klay might not play again. So idk what you do really. If Steph wasn’t the franchise icon you’d trade him I guess.

yeah thats basically it. they committed for better or worse to the trio who got them to the summit of hoops mountain. and age is fucking them up hardcore. credit to the owners i guess for being willing to spend into oblivion to keep their team competitive and getting picks that position them for the post-stephdrayklay years.

they must be on the see how it looks next year plan

if klay can play and be like 75% of his former self, theyll be p good.

if they get minnys pick this year theyll be in an interesting spot as trading it makes sense for the steph team but keeping it makes sense for post steph, which was i guess was the same situation they were in last draft except teams werent that stoked about that draft but teams are very stoked about this one

They made a nice pick this year if they make a nice one again they’ll have something going. It’s not like you can’t win games with young guys

yeah its true if you pick a future star theyre usually serviceable role player by year two

i wld def lean towards making the pick, especially since theyve already got wiseman

ive never heard anything about what sort of power steph has in the organization, got to think hes at least a little bit frustrated at this point

crazy with the new lottery system the worst team has a less than 50% chance of landing in the top 3, its good this way imo more fun, not sure if its had the desired effect of stopping tanking tho the worst team still has the best odds and the highest floor

minny currently has the worst record which would put them at 60% to get either the 4 or 5 pick, pretty sick for the warriors

if they got the 4th pick in this draft they could actually hope within reason to get a player who could turn out to be as good as bradley beal, which i think would maybe make it untradeable. i’m not sure that’s quite true if it drops to 5 or 6.

ive never heard anything about what sort of power steph has in the organization, got to think hes at least a little bit frustrated at this point

honestly he seems to be enjoying himself? no one ever talks about him leaving

As long as klay is still good it’s still the best situation for him

his contract is up after next season, he’s extension eligible and hasn’t signed, and if he got traded to a contending team he could potentially flip the balance of the league... and there’s just zero talk of this happening at all. there must be no agitation coming from his side

if they got the 4th pick in this draft they could actually hope within reason to get a player who could turn out to be as good as bradley beal, which i think would maybe make it untradeable. i’m not sure that’s quite true if it drops to 5 or 6.

even if the tier extends to 6, aren't the odds of picking someone who would turn out to be as good as beal (ie, a top 15ish player) pretty low? for a team that's rebuilding that's a gamble you take, but for a team with an MVP candidate and some other potential pieces it seems like the sort of thing you leverage for a sure thing of a current star

I agree, I’m a huge Beal guy

I think the nuggets need to get Beal tbh

it’s a really fascinating question! if they get a beal level talent in there at age 19 it’s prob more valuable to the franchise than getting the actual brad beal at age 27. it’s a gamble that you’re going to get that player, but it would also be a gamble to give up wiseman and the wolves pick for 2-3 more years of contention knowing that after thar you’re restarting your franchise from scratch with zero assets to speak of outside of your own picks. i think it would be an easier decision if this upcoming draft wasn’t abnormally loaded, but then again the pick has a 50/50 chance of rolling over at this point

i think the warriors trading for beal would be a bad idea

yeah, they are several pieces away from contending this year, and each year that follows they stray further from hoops god.

would love to see bradley in so many non-california places.

beal for simmons........

I gotta see Simmons and russ together for half a season yes

record setting number of disdainful looks

celtics losing by 20 to the wizard rn btw a game after losing to the pistons theyre not doing great

spurs beat the hornets tonight. they're now 5-1 in the last 6 games since aldridge got injured.

I really like the Spurs! People are sleeping on them

Zeke Nnaji showing signs here...

Why did Anthony Davis play this game