like if minny doesnt get a top 3 pick (probably pretty likely given the way draft odds are setup) it goes to gs this year. a top 5 pick in this draft is going to be a very good player.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link
yeah i just haven't agreed with the process at all because even if it works it's going to waste a bunch of prime steph years.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:40 (three years ago) link
i’ve defended them before on the draft picks thing... the heat did the same thing during the bron years (pick low ceiling immediate role players at the end of the draft) and then right after that went on one of the better strings of drafting in the league they also put a coach in place that fostered a style of play/culture that got kevin durant to go there in FA and create possibly the best team of all time, should count for something
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:48 (three years ago) link
maybe there was some luck in the russell thing but it netted them one of the most valuable trade pieces in the league rn idk how that’s not considered a huge win for them
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link
one could make the argument they should be flipping or packaging those picks (incl wiseman) for legit grown up dudes but they already have $174m on the payroll this year and $160m next so it's kinda rough. having so much money tied up in klay not a big help atm
― Clay, Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:50 (three years ago) link
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Sunday, 14 February 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
i guess the question is a. can you get beal for wiseman + wolves pick b. can you actually win a title in the next 2-3 years with steph, klay, beal, wiggins, draymond and whatever bench you're able to cobble together. it feels like a steep price to pay to me.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 07:03 (three years ago) link
i feel like they'll ultimately take the path of least resistance which is picking a young player to go w/ wiseman, extending steph to keep him a warrior and just playing it out w/ some fun seasons that don't really lead to serious title contention. and i'm not sure i would really blame them
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 07:11 (three years ago) link
Draymond gets 10% worse every year and klay might not play again. So idk what you do really. If Steph wasn’t the franchise icon you’d trade him I guess.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
yeah thats basically it. they committed for better or worse to the trio who got them to the summit of hoops mountain. and age is fucking them up hardcore. credit to the owners i guess for being willing to spend into oblivion to keep their team competitive and getting picks that position them for the post-stephdrayklay years.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
they must be on the see how it looks next year plan
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
if klay can play and be like 75% of his former self, theyll be p good.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link
if they get minnys pick this year theyll be in an interesting spot as trading it makes sense for the steph team but keeping it makes sense for post steph, which was i guess was the same situation they were in last draft except teams werent that stoked about that draft but teams are very stoked about this one
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link
They made a nice pick this year if they make a nice one again they’ll have something going. It’s not like you can’t win games with young guys
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
yeah its true if you pick a future star theyre usually serviceable role player by year two
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
i wld def lean towards making the pick, especially since theyve already got wiseman
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
ive never heard anything about what sort of power steph has in the organization, got to think hes at least a little bit frustrated at this point
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
crazy with the new lottery system the worst team has a less than 50% chance of landing in the top 3, its good this way imo more fun, not sure if its had the desired effect of stopping tanking tho the worst team still has the best odds and the highest floor
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link
minny currently has the worst record which would put them at 60% to get either the 4 or 5 pick, pretty sick for the warriors
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
if they got the 4th pick in this draft they could actually hope within reason to get a player who could turn out to be as good as bradley beal, which i think would maybe make it untradeable. i’m not sure that’s quite true if it drops to 5 or 6.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
honestly he seems to be enjoying himself? no one ever talks about him leaving
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
As long as klay is still good it’s still the best situation for him
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
his contract is up after next season, he’s extension eligible and hasn’t signed, and if he got traded to a contending team he could potentially flip the balance of the league... and there’s just zero talk of this happening at all. there must be no agitation coming from his side
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
even if the tier extends to 6, aren't the odds of picking someone who would turn out to be as good as beal (ie, a top 15ish player) pretty low? for a team that's rebuilding that's a gamble you take, but for a team with an MVP candidate and some other potential pieces it seems like the sort of thing you leverage for a sure thing of a current star
― k3vin k., Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
I agree, I’m a huge Beal guy
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
I think the nuggets need to get Beal tbh
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
it’s a really fascinating question! if they get a beal level talent in there at age 19 it’s prob more valuable to the franchise than getting the actual brad beal at age 27. it’s a gamble that you’re going to get that player, but it would also be a gamble to give up wiseman and the wolves pick for 2-3 more years of contention knowing that after thar you’re restarting your franchise from scratch with zero assets to speak of outside of your own picks. i think it would be an easier decision if this upcoming draft wasn’t abnormally loaded, but then again the pick has a 50/50 chance of rolling over at this point
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
i think the warriors trading for beal would be a bad idea
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
yeah, they are several pieces away from contending this year, and each year that follows they stray further from hoops god.
would love to see bradley in so many non-california places.
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
beal for simmons........
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link
I gotta see Simmons and russ together for half a season yes
― Clay, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link
record setting number of disdainful looks
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link
celtics losing by 20 to the wizard rn btw a game after losing to the pistons theyre not doing great
― lag∞n, Sunday, 14 February 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
spurs beat the hornets tonight. they're now 5-1 in the last 6 games since aldridge got injured.
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 15 February 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
I really like the Spurs! People are sleeping on them
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 03:35 (three years ago) link
Zeke Nnaji showing signs here...
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link
Why did Anthony Davis play this game
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link
cj mccollum Ewing theory
― Clay, Monday, 15 February 2021 04:46 (three years ago) link
Man hope that ad injury is nothing but soreness but yah he probably shoulda sat for a few weeks not to risk it
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Monday, 15 February 2021 04:53 (three years ago) link
2 dribbles to a dunk from 3/4 court at 36...
???? pic.twitter.com/gQhQbj35Ru— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) February 15, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Monday, 15 February 2021 04:57 (three years ago) link
cgi
― Clay, Monday, 15 February 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link
so brow’s achilles is basically a ticking time bomb at this point huh?
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 February 2021 05:06 (three years ago) link
jgi (juice graphics imaging)
― lag∞n, Monday, 15 February 2021 05:16 (three years ago) link
Zeke Nnaji seems like he should be starting tbh
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 05:23 (three years ago) link
Aww
After tonight's game, arguably Ricky Rubio's best of the season, Rubio spoke postgame about how his "spirit" was really down at the beginning of the season.He credited one teammate for the shift in his spirit over the past few weeks... Anthony Edwards.— Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) February 15, 2021
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Monday, 15 February 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link
Anthony Edwards being a superstar would rule so much. Just the most gregarious guy who doesn’t take anything seriously. Too many great athletes are Tom Cruise in Collateral
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30906202/blake-griffin-sit-detroit-pistons-weigh-trade-buyout-options-former-all-star
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Monday, 15 February 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
I have a feeling that in the right situation Blake would get back into one last training jag with the guy who wears a mask and have a good season
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 15 February 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link