NBA 2020-21 reg season 1st half thread

Such a delightful player, I think he’s gonna stick in the NBA for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP90cvTmuOU

yeah hes cool

I am lukewarm on him as an impactful player but he does fun stuff

can he reach the ceiling of tj mocconnel?

TJ is lowkey dangerous as a scorer in certain areas

Facu is just such a pest on defense that I’m kind of dismissive of any stat that says he’s not decent overall

yeah he causes a lot of chaos out there

Facu is averaging 2.2 deflections per game in 15mpg which is a crazy number. Simmons leads the league at 3.9 per game.

just seems like a guy who knows how to ball even tho he is short

TJ has 6 blocks and 9 steals in his last 4 games kinda wild. I think the league changed how they assign blocks, if you strip low on the way up for a shot its counted as a block now i think.

cp3 shooting splits for february .541/.500/1.000

seems good

his career numbers are so consistent

perusing some numbers this morning and weirdly jamal murray is 14th in the league in RAPTOR WAR

All-Stars based on each of the impact metrics (looking at total value so playing more minutes helps). I think the East has too many guards for RPM so I added in Simmons who would replace Kyrie if there needs to be an extra frontcourt. pic.twitter.com/VWWcjppqLN

— Krishna Narsu (@knarsu3) February 23, 2021

all in one stats are so dumb i hate them

im gonna come up with one that averages them all called DUMBSMART WARWINS

naw they're ok, all have their limitations of course especially the defensive ones early in the season, but taken as a whole they obv make pretty good picks

does anyone think mike conley is the second best guard in the west DOES ANYONE THINK MIKE CONLEY IS THE SECOND BEST GUARD IN THE WEST

https://64.media.tumblr.com/5a08b447e5c0145215caecb5da2df629/tumblr_ohzfb3x2kx1v4a8wfo2_1280.png

does anyone think mike conley is the second best guard in the west DOES ANYONE THINK MIKE CONLEY IS THE SECOND BEST GUARD IN THE WEST

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:38 PM (six minutes ago)

yeah conley is the big outlier and there are some misconceptions about his value even from ppl who should know better. he's definitely having a very nice season and is a good player but a lot of his value in the all-in-one stats is driven by on-off defensive numbers, which should ALWAYS be looked at skeptically in small samples, especially if you play almost all your minutes with the best defensive player in the league

they literally match his minutes with gobert, it's so silly

xp but idk it's hard to look at that chart and think the big stats are really missing the mark in a systematic way. to me conceptually at least adjusted plus-minus numbers are exactly the kind of stat you want to be using to determine value, but you have to understand that they can be noisy in small samples and use your judgment when interpreting them

you like them because you like thinking about stats not because they are good at what theyre trying to do, which they clearly are not

anyone who understands basketball could put together a team that absolutely smokes the team put together by any catch all stat

Facu is averaging 2.2 deflections per game in 15mpg which is a crazy number. Simmons leads the league at 3.9 per game.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:59 PM (one hour ago)

the other thing I'd say is that while I don't mind facu in a vacuum it's painful to think about the net changes to the nuggs roster this offseason, like while he's a nice 9th piece or so watching grant and plumlee playing well sucks when guys like that are obviously exactly what we need

anyone who understands basketball could put together a team that absolutely smokes the team put together by any catch all stat

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:15 PM (six seconds ago)

revolution is a process my friend

theyve only been working on this stuff for what 20 years

the adjusted on-off stuff is still pretty new and working out the kinks and so forth, anyway it's just a bit of fun let's be cool

theyre dumb im sorry they obfuscate where they should clarify

people who work on this stuff should work on more useful and interesting stats instead which is to say more granular stats

Facu is averaging 2.2 deflections per game in 15mpg which is a crazy number. Simmons leads the league at 3.9 per game.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:59 PM (one hour ago)

the other thing I'd say is that while I don't mind facu in a vacuum it's painful to think about the net changes to the nuggs roster this offseason, like while he's a nice 9th piece or so watching grant and plumlee playing well sucks when guys like that are obviously exactly what we need

Grant is shooting 44/37 and yeah it’s great that he’s doing that on high volume but he’s not really a great defender and he can’t rebound. Like he’s the same guy

Going from grant to green to me is a wash, but Plumlee to Hartenstein has been really bad. Hartenstein is barely playable.

Jokic is top 8 in deflections btw. It’s him and 7 all-world defenders

the game is moving slow for big honey

from grant to green, from wes to montgomery

nice

salute

big honey big angry

“Why are you laughing at me? Why are you laughing at me? Why the f*** are you laughing at me?” pic.twitter.com/fNZYyBmO1g

— Adam Mares (@Adam_Mares) February 24, 2021

they literally match {conley's} minutes with gobert, it's so silly

i dunno. they seem to be winning enough games that way.

i meant re: making grand statements about mike conley's value

hard to assess when they might be codependent

interestingly sabonis is the first player ever to average 25/10/5 and not be an all star

Gallo cooking the Celtics pic.twitter.com/4NeyQxP78t

— jason c. (@netw3rk) February 25, 2021

Zion is so good at driving into the paint and getting a layup off a spin move, it’s insane

interestingly sabonis is the first player ever to average 25/10/5 and not be an all star

bc randle i think

some sentiment out there that the coaches would reward a guy doing well under thibs

coaches like it when a guy gets coached up perhaps