i think gallo made sense esp after the way hunter played last year. but maxing bogdan when you needed to give trae, huerter and reddish big minutes ... even pre-injury he hadn’t clicked at all. can’t judge the contract just yet but i don’t think there was much logic there beyond “we have a lot of money to spend and this is the guy we can spend it on.” the outcome was either splurging on a guy who wasn’t better than the young guys you drafted or decreasing the value of those young guys. they also have gotten next to nothing for okongwu & if they re-sign collins i don’t see an obvious path for his development. not sure they’d rather have any of the guys who went immediately after him except maybe avdija but you can prob throw them on the pile of teams who will regret passing on halliburton and vassel
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 March 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
which ... are they gonna resign collins? he was completely unstoppable for three quarters last night but i still don’t have a great feel for whether he’s even that valuable to them. my inclination is that they could let him go and not get much worse
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 March 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
everyone seems to think theyre going to trade him since they werent willing to offer him nearly what he wanted in the offseason
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
but is anyone willing to offer him what he wants (a max contract) and if not are they willing to trade for him if theyre might not be able to resign him
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link
kinda think the celtics should trade for him and resign him + use their tpe + assets to get a big wing
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
ive been a collins skeptic but credit where its due he just keeps getting better seems like a real worker, and people are saying his d is improving which was the big question mark after he learned to shoot
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
who knows what the hawks wld demand in return and they might just be planning on matching whatever offer he gets anyway
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link
put together your big package for collins then get harrison barnes for more or less a salary dump, something like that, my plan for building a celtics contender
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
Atlanta has dismissed Lloyd Pierce as coach, sources tell ESPN.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 1, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 March 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link
another good reminder that bad ownership is the main impediment to success in most cases.
― J0rdan S., Monday, March 1, 2021 2:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
Haha wow all the hawks talk got things moving huh
― i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 1 March 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
a lot of nba insiders have this thread bookmarked
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
Sources: The Hawks are hopeful assistant Nate McMillan will choose to become the interim head coach. McMillan is meeting with Lloyd Pierce and rest of Hawks coaching staff now. McMillan has been fiercely loyal in his support of Pierce.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 1, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 March 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link
quit copying us
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 March 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
Good lord what are they doing. This seems like a pretty big overreaction. The young kids have developed really well under him. I’m not sure how great he in the technical aspects but damn you signed a bunch of injured vets to accelerate this thing so wtf are you blaming the coach for. The core group is really solid. Jordan mostly otm other than the hunter shade. Ppl get hurt occasionally it’s not like he lost a leg
― Heez, Monday, 1 March 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
maybe trae hates him
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 March 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link
I don’t get any bad vibes from the team but maybe they’re good at hiding it. Or maybe I suck as seeing it as I am am a good vibes kinda guy
― Heez, Monday, 1 March 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link
the hawks should trade collins to the spurs is how i break it down
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 1 March 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, March 1, 2021 4:43 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 March 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
zion casually putting his shoulder into rudy gobert and throwing him into the basket support for an and 1
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
yeah thats the good stuff
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
he was just shredding the jazz in his last stint. they had no answers.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:46 (three years ago) link
i watched a zion highlight video earlier and there was a play where he was triple teamed and got a dunk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link
not the most highlight worthy play but i loved it when he got into the paint, got doubled by gobert and another guy, and dropped it off to hernangomez coming from the corner for an easy layup. it's amazing to me that he's so good at not forcing things.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link
yeah a lot of the time it seems like hes not doing that much but he has 30-7-5
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link
i don’t remember ppl talking about his first step when he was coming out of college. we knew he would be able to bang bodies in the air and finish but he blows by bigs like they’re chained to the floor. first step quickness feels like the most underrated attribute when it comes to evaluating prospects, luka and harden are two others
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
his drive game altogether prob wasnt showcased like it shouldve been at duke
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
his handle is really good too
yeah he's really good at making a quick first move to get an advantage but staying in control after that. he just dropped his shoulder and blew past gobert, but ended up in no mans land directly under the rim, so he said ok, no big deal, and got it back out to someone on the perimeter
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
to summarize he plays a very easy game for one of the most violent athletes of his generation
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link
he basically has the off the bounce game of an elite wing except hes the strongest man in the world and weighs 300 pounds so any contact is completely in his favor
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link
eric bledsoe two airballs off open looks in the quarter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link
did not know steven adams was the worst free throw shooter in the nba this year, but that's what the jazz announcers just said
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link
adams doesn’t really do a lot out there
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link
neither does bledsoe. weird team.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link
league pass browsing. had to look up the large white on the cavs who runs up and down the floor without ever doing anything and now i know who dean wade is.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link
bledsoe i at least understand insofar as he was the price of doing the jrue trade and you want to play him to try and wring or value from the deal. adams remains confounding
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link
dejontae murray just made one of the most ridiculous game tying buzzer beaters in a while
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:42 (three years ago) link
dean wade swishes a corner three to shut me up
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link
aw i did not select the spurs game because it looked like it was pretty much over
the spurs are scrappy, never count them out
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link
lesson learned!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link
well I'm counting them out
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link
the pistons trading bruce brown for no reason for a guy they cut like a month later is “stuff bad franchises do”
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link
Adams is the only defensive anchor on the entire Pelicans roster, sets screens for guys like JJ and Zo to shoot off of, boxes out and rebounds defensively (Zion for all his hops is underwhelming at that at this stage in his career), and is a good passer for his position too. Lot of fans and commentators have been trying to gaslight him into being the worse offseason acquisition of any team because he doesn't shoot 30% from 3 on under 3 attempts a game like Myles Turner, but in reality has like the most lopsidedly positive on/off ratings of anyone on the Pelicans roster, is a big part of why they're generally the #1 or 2 rebounding team in the league, and his net rating with their starters is excellent. Saves Zion from a ton of punishment and wear and tear checking opposing 5s too. I get that "FLOOR SPACING" is the buzzword on every twitter analysts fingers when it comes to building around Zion but the reality is he's already the league's leading paint scorer, putting up 26 a game on an absurd 60+% TS. Him and his team's issues as a whole are almost solely on defense; guys like Adams and Hart are what their roster is in most pressing need of.
― Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:00 (three years ago) link
'preciate the 'nalysis
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:33 (three years ago) link
i don't object to the pelicans playing a true 5 next to zion, it's obvious he can't hold up there on defense and there aren't very many starting caliber 5s who can bang down low and shoot. players zion's age usually get paired w/ bigger vets who can save them from wear and tear, i don't think it's very surprising that the pelicans targeted center as a position of need. but they're paying adams an awful lot money to set screens and rebound... just doesn't seem like those are skills that are extremely difficult to find elsewhere. no advance numbers i'm looking at rate adams as bad by any stretch, more just like pretty decent, maybe like the 12 or 15th best center in the league, which i feel like lines up w/ what i'm seeing on the court. the overall impact at that level is pretty minimal most nights. taking up space, throwing weight around... it's not nothing but, you know
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link
dean wade is the most “my name is on a tractor dealership” ass name I’ve heard in ages
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:47 (three years ago) link
it's really weird to see a D. Wade in the box score and have it be a guy named dean
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link
I get that "FLOOR SPACING" is the buzzword on every twitter analysts fingers when it comes to building around Zion but the reality is he's already the league's leading paint scorer, putting up 26 a game on an absurd 60+% TS. Him and his team's issues as a whole are almost solely on defense; guys like Adams and Hart are what their roster is in most pressing need of.
― Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, March 1, 2021 11:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
genuine question--do you think you're calling into a talk radio show or something? no one was talking about floor spacing. steven adams is posting career lows in a bunch of scoring categories so i think it's reasonable for everyone to wonder what exactly he is doing out there. if the answer is.....screens and boxing out it's fair to ask why that is worth $27M this year and $17M each for the next two years.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 05:23 (three years ago) link