well if im the magic id take it
Fake trade of the day šIf you want to accept the rumors...C's get wing+depth, clear 2021-22 money, preserve Hayward TPE, pick protections are ONE season converting to 2 2nds.Magic get Smart and the 2 picks. Have to clear a roster spot. Ideally TT to a 3rd team. pic.twitter.com/AVclOxpKhb— Ryan Bernardoni ACā”ļøAB (@dangercart) March 23, 2021
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
C's also end $1M below the tax this seasonIn effect...Gordon for SmartFournier for a pickPrice to preserve TPE, add Birch, and move Thompson and Edwards off the books next season is Semi and the second pickSingle season protections keep you in the offseason trade game— Ryan Bernardoni ACā”ļøAB (@dangercart) March 23, 2021
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
y u braek heart boston
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link
yeah trading smart would be....... audacious
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link
kemba jalen jayson gordon williams would be basically impossible to score on tho
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
Hollinger in the Athletic:
How Aaron Gordon to Boston could workSo ā¦ Sam Amick put out the bat signal for some cap analysis Monday night on this possible Orlando-Boston trade (scroll below), and I am here to oblige.A deal that sends Marcus Smart to Orlando for Evan Fournier and Aaron Gordon is, indeed, possible cap-wise because Smartās salary is enough to offset Gordonās, and Fournier fits into Bostonās massive $28 million trade exception from the Gordon Hayward trade. In fact, the Celtics would still have $11 million left over on their exception after taking in Fournier.However, a better way for Boston to execute this deal would be include the minimum salaries of Javonte Green and Carsen Edwards along with Smart. Including Green would send out a $1.5 million salary the Celtics would otherwise end up having to waive, while having no impact on the $18.1 million trade exception that the Magic would generate for Gordon. And in the absence of any other moves, including Edwardsās $1.5 million becomes necessary to keep Boston below the hard cap.One other piece I expect to come up, if it hasnāt been already, is a Khem Birch-Tristan Thompson swap as part of any Gordon trade with Boston. Birch has an expiring deal worth $3 million, while Thompson makes $9.7 million next season. Birch and Fournier for Smart and Thompson is clean cap-wise and actually generates an additional $6.7 million trade exception on Bostonās side.The biggest issue with the Celtics trading for Gordon and Fournier is that Boston is likely to be about $25 million over the luxury tax line if they add Gordon and re-sign free-agent-to-be Fournier and would go further over if they re-sign Daniel Theis. Including Thompson in the trade would cut the number nearly in half and make this whole thing far more palatable from Bostonās end.Alas, Orlando probably isnāt jonesing to pay Thompson $9.7 million next year either. Such a move would leave the Magic themselves just $10 million from next yearās tax line, and their first-round pick would soak up much of that room. Basically, it would make the Gordon traded player exception irrelevant because they wouldnāt be able to use it, and likely rob the Magic of using their full midlevel exception too. The Magic would need that money to sign a 3-and-D wing after losing Gordon and Fournier. Additionally, Thompson would be another potential roadblock to playing time for 2018 lottery pick Mo Bamba.All told, Iād bet against Birch and Thompson being in this deal, but Iād be shocked if Boston didnāt broach it.Finally, one more Orlando-Boston wrinkle: The Celtics should look really hard at setting up this deal as an extend-and-trade with Fournier. (For that matter, they could extend Gordon right now too, but he can get more years if he waits till the summer.) Locking in Fournier at something around his current number of $17.1 million would reduce a lot of the risk in this deal for Boston and have no impact on the Magic.
A deal that sends Marcus Smart to Orlando for Evan Fournier and Aaron Gordon is, indeed, possible cap-wise because Smartās salary is enough to offset Gordonās, and Fournier fits into Bostonās massive $28 million trade exception from the Gordon Hayward trade. In fact, the Celtics would still have $11 million left over on their exception after taking in Fournier.
However, a better way for Boston to execute this deal would be include the minimum salaries of Javonte Green and Carsen Edwards along with Smart. Including Green would send out a $1.5 million salary the Celtics would otherwise end up having to waive, while having no impact on the $18.1 million trade exception that the Magic would generate for Gordon. And in the absence of any other moves, including Edwardsās $1.5 million becomes necessary to keep Boston below the hard cap.
One other piece I expect to come up, if it hasnāt been already, is a Khem Birch-Tristan Thompson swap as part of any Gordon trade with Boston. Birch has an expiring deal worth $3 million, while Thompson makes $9.7 million next season. Birch and Fournier for Smart and Thompson is clean cap-wise and actually generates an additional $6.7 million trade exception on Bostonās side.
The biggest issue with the Celtics trading for Gordon and Fournier is that Boston is likely to be about $25 million over the luxury tax line if they add Gordon and re-sign free-agent-to-be Fournier and would go further over if they re-sign Daniel Theis. Including Thompson in the trade would cut the number nearly in half and make this whole thing far more palatable from Bostonās end.
Alas, Orlando probably isnāt jonesing to pay Thompson $9.7 million next year either. Such a move would leave the Magic themselves just $10 million from next yearās tax line, and their first-round pick would soak up much of that room. Basically, it would make the Gordon traded player exception irrelevant because they wouldnāt be able to use it, and likely rob the Magic of using their full midlevel exception too. The Magic would need that money to sign a 3-and-D wing after losing Gordon and Fournier. Additionally, Thompson would be another potential roadblock to playing time for 2018 lottery pick Mo Bamba.
All told, Iād bet against Birch and Thompson being in this deal, but Iād be shocked if Boston didnāt broach it.
Finally, one more Orlando-Boston wrinkle: The Celtics should look really hard at setting up this deal as an extend-and-trade with Fournier. (For that matter, they could extend Gordon right now too, but he can get more years if he waits till the summer.) Locking in Fournier at something around his current number of $17.1 million would reduce a lot of the risk in this deal for Boston and have no impact on the Magic.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link
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hypothetically they should be good defensively now tho lol, but gordon is a better fit at the 4 defensively than the jays and could play some mini ball 5
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
It would definitely be tough to see Marcus go. I don't really want to think about it if I don't have to, he's the exemplar extraordinaire of the Celtics Mindtype. But it's not a crazy trade if, like in the example above, the picks are fully lottery protected. Danny can't draft for shit anymore in the back half of the 1st round anyway.
Fournier is only 28, thought he was older. He needs to embrace the 6th man role for it to work, but if he does that, I'm warming to the idea
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
also I might be crazy but I feel like there was a point back in the day when people thought Khem Birch might be a player? Can't be that much of a step down from Thompson as a 3rd big
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
i mean according to b-ref he compares favorably to greg stiemsma so
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
hypothetically they should be good defensively now tho lol
and yet the grizz scored 1 billion points in the paint last night give or take. it's maddening.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
not having to watch thompson attempt to play basketball would be a huge relief
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link
maybe they can trade brad
i cant believe Bad Stevens became real
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
i enjoy watching marcus so much that i can't really be reasonable about trading him, especially to the fucking Magic
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
the Magic are experts at not knowing which of their players are actually good so if Marcus gets stuck there hopefully they move him on to somewhere else quickly
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
I could see him being fun on any number of teams but jesus, orlando might as well be sacramento
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
yeah wld be more respectful to trade him atlanta
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
not saying it wld be a mookie betts sized pr debacle to trade him but whatever is not quite as big
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
lol https://twitter.com/search?q=marcus%20smart
celtics could conceivably trade smart to the hawks for collins + bogdan and then get gordon for draft picks and whoever
that might be too many guys tho
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
its annoying that the TPE isnt combinable with players from the point of view of constructing elaborate trade machine compositions
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
something like this except with a player who is like prince but better than prince and then trade for gordon too
https://i.imgur.com/iSVq7O6.png
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
but on the other hand if the celtics are willing to trade smart why not get og anunoby
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
āAn NBA executive, watching from afar when it comes to the Gordon sweepstakes, says heās not the only name the Celtics are chasing. If he was, the deal would be done.ā https://t.co/nOBEu4Hjkx— Chuck M. (@RedsArmy_Chuck) March 23, 2021
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link
does aaron gordon have the āceltics mindtypeā
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
not really
― lagān, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
This high school player called out Brian Scalabrine to a 1v1 and put his shoes on the line š³ (via joshlopesss/Instagram) pic.twitter.com/hMZiJRsaRp— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) March 23, 2021
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link
Report: Talks with Magic for Gordon āstill alive,ā but unlikely to includeĀ Smart https://t.co/TGV1ixu3Zm— The Celtics Wire (@TheCelticsWire) March 24, 2021
― lagān, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
langford or nesmith in the a comparable deal instead of smart? ok, fine
just hope ainge playing hardball doesn't leave the c's empty-handed
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link
pretty sure nothing will happen because people are tired of dealing with danny
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link
that was alluded to in one of the articles
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link
Middleton destroying the Celtics, as he does
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 25 March 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link
got it close but atrocious execution on the last 3-4 possessions which is becoming a trademark of this team
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 March 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
you ain't lying
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 March 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
Hi @celtics fans,If you're not familiar with me, please Google my last name. You're welcome. š— Evan Fournier (@EvanFourmizz) March 25, 2021
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
^ maybe do that with images off btw
rob defending giannis really well!
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link
tacko on the other hand lol
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:35 (three years ago) link
rob was messing with a 5x5 tonight
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 March 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
The Boston #Celtics have put a full-court press on signing Andre Drummond. He is leaning towards #Lakers, but Boston has made up a lot of ground the last 24 hours.— Evan Massey (@massey_evan) March 27, 2021
sounds competitive
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
im torn on one had he will take robs starting spot on the other we will never have to see tristan play again
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
hate the idea of drummond starting over rob
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
same, but on the other hand having him anywhere ahead of tristan is a pretty huge upgrade
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link
haha ok nice normal
Evan Fournier will not make his debut tonight because heās in health and safety protocols, per the Celtics.— Jay King (@ByJayKing) March 27, 2021
― lagān, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
i'm just gonna say it--the game changed tonight when they put luke kornet in
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link
and the stats will back me up because they literally went on a 19-0 run when he checked in
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link
kornet is definitively ahead of tristan in the celtics center rotation now
― lagān, Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link
i joke but he was playing great! active, staying vertical on defense, he can shoot and move the ball a bit.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link
definitely more of an exemplar of what they like to do at center than tristan.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:04 (three years ago) link