bringing this out of the celtics thread
Boston head coach Brad Stevens is planning to transition from his current role into becoming the new head of basketball ops. of the Celtics, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Danny Ainge plans to resign from his role as Celtics President, sources said.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 2, 2021
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link
what an amazing come up for brad, sheesh
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
How come Duncan Robinson’s nickname isn’t Spurs Dynasty or something like that
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
excited for larger scale opportunities to say 'bad stevens'
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
Stevens has been described as worn down with coaching since The Bubble, and welcomed the chance to make the transition to the front office, sources tell ESPN. Stevens will help lead the search for his successor as head coach.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 2, 2021
hard to take this as anything other than "i'm sick of these guys"
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link
Have to assume that the occasions will come with more frequency in a front office role. Or maybe not more frequency since the team plays 82 (or 72 or whatever) games a year, but by ratio.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link
feel like there could be some theyre sick of him in the mix too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link
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that part concerns me bcuz i wonder if this is just a happenstance of timing where brad maybe wanted a year off and then the GM job opened up and then 2 years from now he realizes he wants to coach again
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:34 AM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes for sure
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link
wonder where mike zarren fits into this new regime
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link
weird
― Spottie, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link
The Celtics went all in on Kyrie and it just didn’t work. They never turned that around. I would love to start with Brown and Tatum tho.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link
this just feels off
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link
it’s also tough bcuz if whoever he hires isn’t good enough or isn’t liked by the players there’s gonna be constant pressure for brad to take over like riley did SVG in 06. but this could also work out bcuz brad is very smart
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:36 AM (one second ago) bookmarkflaglink
i dont think thats totally accurate although it was obvs a fiasco
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link
he definitely hasn't seemed as in his element the past few years as he was for the IT teams. might just be a guy who doesn't like coaching star players
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:36 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah its pretty weird
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
it feels like there was a plan to gracefully transition from danny and something threw a wrench in it
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
prob something like ownership loves brad, brad threatened to quit, they forced ainge out to make brad stay
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
very weird i agree
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
this feels like a rich guy not basketball move
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link
everyone went insane after they saw the logo get stomped on
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link
the leprechaun demanded a sacrifice
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
hahah
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link
i feel like ainge decided to step down and brad saw the opportunity to get away from coaching without leaving the franchise. but he’s 44 not 65 so it strains the imagination that he’s not going to coach again.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link
also we dont know how real brads position is, curious to see who is above him, maybe theyre kicking him up stairs in the hopes of having him coach again, or maybe just because hes still under contract
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
i have a feeling that brad does not want to relocate his family right now, they're pretty ensconced in wellesley and his kids are not at the age where moving wouldn't be disruptive. that has to be at least a small part of this.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link
if brad wanted to still be coaching he could’ve just left and been the top coaching candidate in both the college and NBA markets, he could’ve just taken a year off too if that’s what he felt like he needed, the break would’ve been natural with ainge leaving. so he must genuinely want to be in a front office i just think he’ll coach again and it’s weird for a coach to be hired by the team’s ex coach especially one who didn’t accomplish all that much in reality even tho brad is widely respected and acknowledged to be very good at his job. it’s not like brad can go out and hire some thibs like figure whoever that is who is out there, it’s gonna have to be someone less accomplished than him, prob a guy who has never been an NBA head coach before, who understands he’ll be coaching in the shadow of his boss, it all sounds kind of awkward
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link
yeah wild to me that both indiana and north carolina hired new coaches this year and now brad stevens is working in the celtics front office
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
who didn’t accomplish all that much in reality
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 2, 2021 10:53 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
went to four easter conference finals all with teams that i think reasonably couldve been called overachievers
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link
yeah i’m not trying to disparage brad’s coaching record i’m just saying it’s not like a riley situation where the guy had coached for 20 years and won 4 titles before moving into an executive role. there’s just a certain number of coaches with more experience than brad who prob won’t wanna work for him
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
he’ll prob have to find “the next brad stevens” which could be great but it’s different than if they had just hired a normal GM and were looking for a coach, it would prob be the no 1 job on the market and open to the d’antoni level coaches who’ve been around for a while and accomplished a lot
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link
idk i dont think it matters coaches want jobs and there arent very many of them, much less jobs with a couple young stars on board
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link
the bigger concern for me is brad stevens has no front office experience, tho im sure hes in on the conversations and whatnot, but also who knows where hell actually end up in the hierarchy, if mike zarren is his boss then its more reasonable
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link
question of mike zarren is perplexing, i googled him to see if anyone was reporting around that and got like 4 years worth of articles talking about him being the heir apparent to danny lol
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
open to the d’antoni level coaches who’ve been around for a while and accomplished a lot
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:23 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
fwiw stevens is more accomplished than thibs or diantoni lol, also hes been in the league for a while now, tho he does have a baby face
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link
btw i’m reading the pat riley wikipedia and this sounds like some crazy shit Six games into the 1981–82 season, Magic Johnson said he wished to be traded because he was unhappy playing for Westhead. Shortly afterward, Lakers' owner Jerry Buss fired Westhead. At an ensuing press conference, with Jerry West at his side, Buss named West head coach. West, however, balked, and Buss awkwardly tried to name West as "offensive captain" and then named West and Riley as co-coaches.[10] West made it clear during the press conference that he would only assist Riley, and that Riley was the head coach.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
lol buss tried to publicly shame west into coaching
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
ha! I imagine that press conference will be reenacted in the hbo series, sounds like gold.... blue and gold
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
i really hope zarren takes over as president cause if stevens is the shot caller idk this is a pivotal time for the celtics and its not like there are easy answers someones gonna have to make good calls to get them to the next level
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
not really the spot you want to be learning on the job
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
the press release has stevens as president. zarren's not going to be above him.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
this is a yikes guys
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
thats a pretty big finger to zarren if he's not in charge now
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
this has the feel of an internal power struggle that ainge and zarren lost and brad won
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
maybe brad was always right about personnel moves one can hope
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
i know he's on the permanent candidates list when a GM gets canned but has zarren ever said that he actually wants the top job?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
gotta think that with years of people saying hes next after danny theres something there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
but if he got fucked over in this deal well prob see if he wants to be the gm of a different team pretty fast
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link