yeah its his first non rookie deal
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link
don't know if it'll be quite that high, probably depends on the market, how many teams have cap space. but whatever the exact number you're probably right and probably not wise for the c's to do that
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:36 (three years ago) link
i think if you could get him for solid starter money ~$15m a/y and move kembas deal thats pretty good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:40 (three years ago) link
if ball helps bring a championship or even an East Conf championship to Boston, I think he's set with a max deal for four years following and beloved in Boston for the rest of his life. if he believes he can step it up with the Celts, seems like a wise move to take a risk on a 4m/5m paycut for '22 and let lavar tell everyone how he's a selfless player and incredibly underpaid and then cash in for 23 but i am not an nba player or gm
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link
i do not think hes a max guy a star but i do think he could be a piece a solid guy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link
the big problem with kemba in boston besides the injuries is hes really a primary scorer who thrives on going full on towards the goal at all times and hes actually not a very good playmaker, but with tatum and brown already in place kemba was having to pick his spots and was just never comfortable and he could never fill that facilitator role which is what they really need
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link
lonzo is not going to create any more half court offense than kemba
― micah, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link
ok
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link
celtics have a conventional roster - bigs who do big things, wings who do wing things - so they should probably look for a conventional distributing guard like idk chris paul
― micah, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link
do you have any of those
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link
i hear tj mcconnell is a free agent
― micah, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:16 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link
your welcome
― micah, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
anyway all due respect to the point god but the days of the —conventional distributing guard— are largely behind us, brown and tatum initiate a lot of the offense, getting another star would obvs be great but past that getting guys who can make plays when they need to is good, lonzo is an excellent passer and has made progress as a shooter but is a poor finisher at the rim and a lot of his value is on defense, his profile is actually very similar to smarts, i think if you can add a guy like that its pretty good, then you just got to hope the nets get injured
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link
Lonzo is Ricky Rubio 2.0 but with some hope left that he could improve as a shooter
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link
i think lonzo has more ability to be productive without the ball in his hands and also has more positional flexibility, with rubio its like this guy is your point guard hes going to dribble a lot which is not great since hes a bad scorer
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link
its kind messed up for lonzo that he was such a high draft pick and got so much press, if he were a #10 pick settling into a long career as a solid starter thatd make a lot more sense
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link
lonzo shot ~38% from three this season, on like 9 attempts per game.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link
yeah he was legitimately scorching the nets for like a month before that late season injury too, im not ready to totally believe it but its pretty cool def
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
if you get frustrated with kemba always being injured then maybe lonzo isnt the way to go
― Spottie, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link
there is that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link
i would just like some complementary players who can play defense, doesn't really matter who.
― ciderpress, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link
question was not so much how to get lonzo but what other player with an inflated contract do you trade kemba for (and how do you get rid of tristan who admittedly had one good game in the playoffs but was mostly unpleasant to watch) and Adams is who came to mind.
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
― micah, Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:09 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is otm; the hope is that lonzo's strengths play better on a team where the wings can create and he can just be a ball mover
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link
also adams is pretty bad now, probably close to a wash with tristan.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link
Boston Celtics president Brad Stevens has received team permissions to interview several assistant coaches for his franchise's head coaching job, including the Los Angeles Clippers' Chauncey Billups, sources told ESPN.Stevens started making calls on Wednesday to get the OK to talk to several candidates, including Billups, Milwaukee Bucks' Darvin Ham and Charles Lee, Dallas' Jamahl Mosley and Brooklyn's Ime Udoka, sources told ESPN.
Stevens started making calls on Wednesday to get the OK to talk to several candidates, including Billups, Milwaukee Bucks' Darvin Ham and Charles Lee, Dallas' Jamahl Mosley and Brooklyn's Ime Udoka, sources told ESPN.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link
ime is as nice and sweet and thoughtful an athlete as i've ever spoken to and it would be truly joyous if he got a the big job somewhere
― Clay, Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link
looks like brad is consciously attempting to hire a coach who is… not like brad stevens
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link
they basically have to hire a nonwhite coach, even the local white middle aged radio guys have come to that conclusion
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:04 (three years ago) link
they should hire an italian
― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
if porter doesn’t cut these no-dribble, off-rhythm threes in half next season it’ll be a huge coaching failure
― k3vin k., Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link
The Athletic’s Shams Charania adds Becky Hammon, Dawn Staley and Brent Barry to a list of candidates for Portland's open coaching gig which already includes Chauncey Billups and Mike D’Antoni.
would be so cool
― Clay, Sunday, 13 June 2021 03:38 (three years ago) link
In February, Luka snapped at Mavs exec Haralabos Voulgaris: "Don’t f—ing tell me to calm down."It's not the only example of a tense relationship.Sources say Voulgaris is Dallas' most influential exec. Will he impact Luka's desire to stay long-term?📚 https://t.co/q7TKUVnHdZ pic.twitter.com/jDEGbq4BCK— The Athletic (@TheAthletic) June 14, 2021
wild story on the mavs. i will just put it in the C&P thread
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link
bob!
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
In an ESPN feature from 2013, Voulgaris is quoted as saying, “The whole process (of becoming a highly successful gambler) has led me to believe that I’d be able to put together a better team than almost any general manager in the league. If not maybe all.”
beautiful
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
Cuban added: “Bob has a great grasp of AI and the opportunities it create for gaining an advantage. Which is important to me. But he isn’t any more influential than any other data source on the team.”
i am savoring this
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link
otm, this is the good stuff
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link
Why is voulgaris talking to luka ever
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
didnt bob admit that he made most of his money off one simple plus minus hack not off of the analytics that he hired people to produce
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
dont get me wrong beating the house is very impressive regardless and maybe he did well with the analytics too idk BUT thinking that qualifies you to run a team is pretty funny, and thinking that it makes you automatically in line to be the best gm in the game is some clown shit lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
also i dont think i ever heard him talk about AI on twitter need to know more about what hes gotten up to, cuban is the perfect mark for someone just saying the words artificial intelligence to him
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
even thought you know you shouldnt it would be just irresistible to pitch AI to him then hire some programmers like please AI basketball now
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
mavs mustve already had a big data guy
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
feel like this story is good gossip about ppl disliking haralabob that is straining to be something more. they write that he has “near total control over the roster” but also that donnie nelson “spearheaded” every major move the mavs have made, it doesn’t seem like the writers really understand how much power he has. working with an obscenely rich gambler guy who he thinks he could be better than any GM in the NBA sounds awful tho
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
this is amazing lol
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
yeah, much of what made bob entertaining when he would go on pods was his complete confidence in his opinions and complete disdain for anything he thought was dumb. not nearly as fun when you have to work with someone like that.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
the mavs had bad seeding luck this year, ended up taking one of the best teams in the NBA down to the final quarter of a 7 game series, and now everyone is losing their minds
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
jordan otm
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
the only notable thing in there to me is that doncic doesn’t like voulgaris. the rest of the stuff — bob’s influence in the front office in particular and his butting heads with colleagues, seems run of the mill for an NBA franchise
― k3vin k., Monday, June 14, 2021 1:56 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i mean it's pretty funny that a famous sports gambler and twitter personality is now one of the three most powerful people in an nba front office, i guess it depends on your definition of "notable"
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link