the wind up was i'm gonna hit whatever's in front of me possibly including the ball as well as this point guard who has the skeletal structure of a small bird
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link
i agree
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link
I mean if you can’t tell that he was pissed and had literally no care if he broke Cam’s nose then I don’t know what to tell you
― Heez, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link
Squarely hitting the basketball at the end also helps
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
You don’t wind up to strip the ball in basketball
Exactly. There's a dude I hoop with who winds up to block a shot EVERY TIME and I've had to descalate shit 20 or more times because yeah guys tend not to appreciate that. He just doesn't know any better but Jokic for goddamn sure does.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
i probably would have called it a flagrant 1 but if you commit a flagrant 1 you're opening yourself to the possibility that some important people think you've committed a flagrant 2
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
pictured: normal humans, nurk's dad
― Clay, Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:53 PM (twenty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
7 foot tall 400 pound bosnian cop, not someone i want to meet!
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
If lebron did it it was a flagrant 1. Everyone else that’s a flagrant 2
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
They kick ppl out of games for this type of thing all the time. Cutting dudes legs when they’re dunking, getting under guys when they’re shooting. It’s not the result it’s the fact that you could have really badly hurt someone
― Heez, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
xp self but it was a bad foul with bad intent committed on a guy's face and there should be consequences for that
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
a dude jokic's size winding up in that amount of time and space while losing by ten in a sweep game is going to be judged harsher than most dudes and rightfully so
― Clay, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
Like seriously Matt your take here is so bad that I wonder if you've ever hooped and now I can't ever take anything you say about bball seriously
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 June 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
Eh he’s just being a homer. Respect
― Heez, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link
Hoping this ends up with a suns sweep now
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
that's a Chunky pic.twitter.com/a2uBqiLwKj— I Think You Should League Pass (@nbaleave) June 14, 2021
― Fetchboy, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
"Don't wind up" is the advice you get in 5th grade when you block a shot cleanly and still get called for a foul. It's not a sacred hoops rule about being ejected.
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
Twitter seems to be very split on the call
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
looked up jokic's brothers and they're straight up pre-rendered gta 4 characters
― Clay, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
xxp i don't know what that means? the guy in the officiating center in seacaucus that they interview cited windup, contact, and follow-through as the reasons for the call.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
Yeah none of that makes sense. There was wind up and follow through with a hand that hit the ball
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link
Jokic's dad was an ag engineer and his brothers also tried to play pro basketball. This shit about them being scary feels obviously nagl.
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
imho it was a borderline call, i wouldve liked to see them leave jokic in cause of the situation, but its def not any sort of out of the question to call that a 2, that was for sure a dangerous non basketball play
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
how can a non basketball play involve so much basketball?
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:05 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
it makes sense to.....the people that oversee officiating
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
To echo granny, I’ve totally felt the way Jokic felt when he did that and it’s not that you’re trying to hurt the guy but you could really give a shit if you do
― Heez, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Been on the other end of it too
Personally I think nba officials make bad calls a lot
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:09 PM (twenty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
i guess thatll just have to be a koan for you
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
guys the point is that the ends don't justify the means
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
they certainly tell you something about intention
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link
maybe... he wasnt actually trying to make a play on the ball
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link
could be one explanation for why it didnt look like a normal basketball play
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:12 PM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
watch it again and tell me he was worried at all about what he was going to hit on the way down
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
Well coming from a guy who apparently thinks a windup is part of stripping a ball, I don't think NBA refs gonna lose much sleep over what Matt thinks of them
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
*personally* i think he was trying to get the forearm
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
if the nuggets pulled this out and jokic gets suspended for game 5 ....
― Clay, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
it was so obviously a frustration foul and he did it in a dangerous manner not too complicated
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
It's not a sacred hoops rule about being ejected.
It's one of the main things ref are trained to look for when deciding flagrants
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
and yeah likely didnt even mean to his paynes face, but also didnt really care
don’t know how you could watch that and not see that he had bad intentions yah
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
He was trying to commit a really hard frustration foul, strangely almost got all ball. It’s a flagrant 1. Everyone here knows it was a flagrant 1, we’ve all watched a lot of basketball here. It’s weird that they went 2.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
Most of us thought it was a 2 tho. Surprised the refs agreed
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:17 (three years ago) link
right matt. so we're arguing the minutiae of the fact that you think it's a travesty that it was a 2 and many of us are saying that it was close and could have been a 1 or a 2.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link
this sport is definitely soccer now. crazy calls to goose the narrative of a series that was over anyway.
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link
Meanwhile is anyone gonna make a shot in this game
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link
xp that's a bizarre thing to say
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
the number of times two nuggets have run into each other on offense is not great, most of them seem to involve MPJ
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
Oh yay after the obligatory "Refs are bad" comment we get the "it's all part of a league-directed conspiracy" comment
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 14 June 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link
nuggs don't have a coherent offense without jokic for a stretch this long, that's not surprising xp
― Clay, Monday, 14 June 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link