2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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makes too much sense carlisle is the master of making weird pieces fit

Carlisle had two years left on his contract in Dallas, but there are five other coaching openings in the NBA and possibly more forthcoming. He'll easily land another job.

Rumblings about Milwaukee as a destination -- IF the Bucks make a change -- have been circulating for weeks.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 17, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link

tbh not very unusual for a star to win a power struggle over a coach even if the coach is rick carlisle. ask the spurs whether they’d rather have let kawhi win that organizational power struggle

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

the chances are pretty high that the mavs are playing as a top 4 seed in the west by dec/jan next year and this is all just remembered as some fun offseason drama, which it is

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link

idk would not want to be the coach who has to make this mavs roster work as well as carlisle did

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

btw listening to tim macmahon on zach lowes pod rn thats how bad i want the dirt "mavs front office has been a mess for a while" "mark cuban is the mavs gm, makes all the basketball decisions"

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link

"chandler parsons had cubans ear for a while" lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

wow lagooon breaking his code and listening to a podcast??? hella thirsty for the dramz

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

im saying

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

says everyone except cuban hates bob voulgaris

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

the podcast is rly good. chandler pardons having decision making power is incredible

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

i’ve realized one of the most important qualifications you can have as an aspiring NBA GM is being named donnie

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link

from the pod

Luka yelled at Carlisle in the middle of a game once “who’s in charge, you or Bob?”

— Azaz (@AzazNYK) June 17, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link

cuban being a meddling owner has always been pretty much implicit

ciderpress, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

feed me the drama I need it

k3vin k., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link

Mark Cuban hired a Twitter goon who forced out a top 5 coach. To me this is not a great situation

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

haven’t listened to the lowe pod yet but my impression is that it was the tension with luka that got carlisle to leave, the haralabob thing seems related and not great but not in a direct way maybe

k3vin k., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

theres a lot we dont know about how this all went down and i would like to know it

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

the atheltic:

After 16 years as the head of the Dallas Mavericks’ front office, from Dirk Nowitzki’s one-of-a-kind run to the Luka Doncic era that has shown so much similar promise, Nelson had begun to wonder if he was truly in charge of the team’s roster or coaching staff anymore. But when he relayed these fears to owner Mark Cuban, sharing his growing belief that Haralabos Voulgaris, the former professional gambler who served as the team’s director of quantitative research and development, was encroaching on his influence over personnel moves and strategy, the course correction that he’d never hoped for arrived.

Nelson had wanted Voulgaris to stay in his proverbial lane, to avoid overstepping the bounds of his role and focus on being a trusted adviser to Cuban whose analytics-based views would always be taken into account. Dallas would have preferred to project stability ahead of a crucial summer in which Doncic was eligible for a supermax contract extension he indicated a desire to sign. Instead, within the front office, there was turmoil and dysfunction.

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As one rival team executive shared Wednesday, there were times when talking to the Mavericks about trade possibilities meant inevitable confusion. Nelson would paint one picture, so to speak, discussing the possible pieces and players involved in an attempt to get a deal done. But Voulgaris, who this rival executive said had talked to his team simultaneously about a particular deal, would tell a different story. And because Voulgaris was widely known to have a direct line to Cuban, this dynamic was seen by Nelson as damaging to his credibility. When asked over the phone about this assertion on Wednesday, Cuban refuted the idea that Voulgaris had negatively impacted the process.

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

would be funny if it turns out haralabob nuked the entire mavs org

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

hey fellows I’ve had a busy few days is anything interesting or dare I hope fabulously dramatic happening in the nba

Clay, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

the National Bdrama Association

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

steve kerr is the third longest tenured coach in the NBA

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

wow

The Celtics are trading Kemba Walker, the No. 16 overall pick in the 2021 draft and a 2025 second-round draft pick to Oklahoma City for Al Horford, Moses Brown and a 2023 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

horf back lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

no doubt okc will rehab kemba and get more picks back for him in a year

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link

celtics have 4 centers

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link

Weird trade. Is that just to trade the Kemba contract for the shorter Horford contract?

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

might just be mostly honoring kembas trade request, also they love horf and yeah shorter contract

also moses brown lit the celtics up when they played late last year perhaps a danger of coach turned gm idk hes also that weird bball biomechanics twitter guys big success story lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

hopefully this will be the first step in moving past the tristan thompson era

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

deep cap analytics

You can't have this be part of the calculation on what is a good contract for Fournier and if he returns now, but if they don't re-sign him I'll be annoyed because had they not traded for him, this trade would have created a new Kemba-sized TPE in a season where Beal may move.

— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link

Proposed Kemba and No. 16 for Horford trade on MassLive last week with a full breakdown: https://t.co/obtqQx88W5 pic.twitter.com/6ytrqEiBno

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

didnt realize horfs contract was that favorable

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link

brad is online

k3vin k., Friday, 18 June 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link

activate... brad

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

Is Al gonna come back, retire as a player, and become the coach?

EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

player coach lets do this

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

horf really does have coach vibes its true, im on board with the retirement coach plan, great from a cap pov too

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

I think he'd be a great coach. Plus the young stars look up to him already.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

its an ingenious idea, tip o the cap 2 u

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

is brad gonna be like doc and keep getting his former guys back

ciderpress, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link

lol

OH COME ON https://t.co/zDN2kqDJwC

— Hunter Felt (@HunterFelt) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

hahaha

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 June 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link

well they got it done, this was always what the shape of a kemba trade was going to look like. sucks to have to keep moving picks to turn over these bad veteran contracts.

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 June 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

seems like presti gave brad a sweetheart deal to me. they only had to trade a mid first to get off kemba’s deal and they got back moses brown who the thunder signed to one of those crazy cheap borderline amoral lu dort style contracts

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 June 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

deal seems pretty fair to me tho yeah mo brown could swing it the celtics way, okc will prob rehab kemba and get more picks for him in six months lol

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link

cuban looking for familiar comfort

Former Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki tells @NYTSports that he is rejoining the organization as special advisor.

Nowitzki's first assignment at the request of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban: Assisting the team in its search for a new head of basketball operations and then coach.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

dirk loves the mavs

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 June 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

At Mark Cuban’s request, Dirk Nowitzki, Michael Finley and a select group of trusted, longtime staffers met with him yesterday to discuss the franchise’s path forward. https://t.co/F37kzgpa9Z

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 18, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

the celtics cleared $32m in cap space and all they had to do was give up a pick that is at best a coin flip to return even a solid rotation player. or looking at it the other way, the thunder are paying $32m for a coin flip’s chance at getting a solid rotation player. seems like a great deal for boston

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 June 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link


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