2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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After Kemba trade, OKC projected to pick at 4, 16, 18, 35, 36, 55, + possibility Thunder steal Rockets pick if it drops to #5

— Jonathan Wasserman (@NBADraftWass) June 18, 2021

if they get 4 and 5 in this draft my lord

pelton:

This trade is yet another example of Thunder executive vice president and general manager Sam Presti getting first-round picks on both ends of a trade. Presti all but pioneered the move with Kurt Thomas, getting two first-round picks -- one of them used on Serge Ibaka -- to take his salary from the tax-avoiding Phoenix Suns in 2007 before getting a third from the San Antonio Spurs at the 2008 trade deadline.

Presti did it again with Chris Paul, who came with a bevy of first-round picks when acquired from the Houston Rockets and fetched one on his way to the Phoenix Suns. Now it's happened a third time with Horford.

As a refresher, Oklahoma City got a 2025 first-round pick from the 76ers (top-six protected) along with the rights to 2020 second-round pick Theo Maledon and international stash Vasilije Micic as payment for taking on Horford's contract in exchange for a package headlined by Danny Green. Surely, part of Presti's thinking was that the Thunder could rebuild Horford's value, and that's more or less what's happened.

Now, Oklahoma City gets yet another first-round pick -- the team's third in the 2021 draft to go along with the Thunder's own and one from the Miami Heat that could be swapped for the Houston Rockets' pick if that drops to No. 5 in next week's lottery -- to take on Walker's contract for Horford.

i'm not sure the thunder rebuilt horford's value as much as they just played a shell game of swapping his contract for someone else's worse contract bcuz they're not trying to win or spend money, but it was good business

yeah it was mostly just rolling bad contracts over but horf playing well this year was good too, if he had sucked as bad as he did in philly they prob wouldve had to keep him

admittedly did not see much of the thunder this year or was he a better player or just not in a system designed for him to fail

i thought horford retired like halfway through the season?

if i had to say it was the latter but still you want to see proof you know xp

expertly done by presti, horf played 28 games then was sat to preserve his value and let the team tank

wonder how shai feels about the thunder bringing in another lead guard in so that they can "rebuild his value"

doubt theyll do anything to get in the way of shai, plenty of minutes to go around, sure theyll keep kembas minutes down anyway as they did w horf, aging guys with injury histories and so forth

besides everyone loves kemba, good guy to have around

one thing about this deal is it makes resigning fournier easier from both a cap stand point and because they have a starting spot and more looks for him now which is good cause if they dont resign him they dont have much ability to go out and get another guy

do you want to resign fournier tho?

got to, hes a pretty good player, def limited by his lack of athleticism but he can ball

with all the good perimeter defenders the celtics have they should be able to hide him pretty well

Maybe Moses Brown is a Drummond type who compiles defensive stats while not actually helping much, but the guy is a great rebounder. I'd definitely kick the tires there.

yeah i like him he put up good numbers at the end of last year

luka back at it already

I have seen this before ;) pic.twitter.com/d75VB7kbeO

— Zoran Savin (@Zooox) June 18, 2021

i like fournier a lot as a 3rd or 4th option. he's a pro and seems like he's pretty low-maintenance.

i wonder who they could get for thompson/smart and a pick...

no trading marcus

he's their only point guard now isnt he

fournier looked good for them. he def felt like a “playoff player” to me, he’s tough and can shoot

he's their only point guard now isnt he

― ciderpress, Friday, June 18, 2021 3:15 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this fills me with dread

There's the rookie point guard the C's drafted last year, Payton Pritchard. He's still green, but promising enough as regular season, gives you 12-to-14 minutes kind of guy. Not who you want starting.

i mean, they have a whole offseason of moves to make

marcus is a good point guard! its by far his best offensive mode, also gives them good size on D

im excited about this role for him

kemba-marcus small backcourt
marcus-evan big backcourt

Pritchard definitely had a very good rookie season, I could see him being an ok starter eventually. The defense is good right?

def had a good year, idk if hell be a starter but its not out of the question, one thing is hes pretty old

his defense was better than what you might think but hes still small and unathletic so prob has a pretty low ceiling on the end, will have trouble switching and so forth

trying to work out what the sixers will do if they lose to atlanta tonight. they can't run it back, they can't move embiid, they can't fire doc. so do they hair-trigger it on simmons and/or harris? those dudes can't have lower value than they do after this series. try to make some moves to get a bench? it's a real situation!

simmons is the obv move.

simmons value def at an alltime low tho prob still has fans out there theyre certainly not going to get what they could have a couple years ago, harris had a really good year and his stock is prob up a bit BUT his contract is completely insane hes making ~$40m in 23/24 lmao, if they lose to atl im guessing simmons is out

https://i.imgur.com/lruML7q.png

make it happen

i was mocked, derided, outcast, labeled an insane man for suggesting that which now is widely considered destiny

nba playoffs aka the 'offs (which includes the 'ins) 2021

lol that was an escalation, i tip my hat

ben simmons and dame would theoretically complement each other right

sure

https://www.blazersedge.com/2021/6/18/22539337/nba-trade-rumors-ben-simmons-cj-mccollum-portland-trail-blazers-sixers-zach-lowe-podcast

“I have news for Philly fans, the GMs of the other teams watch the playoffs very very closely. And there are definitely teams that I have talked to in the last 48 hours who were once in on Simmons, who say, at lease to me, it could be posturing, “eh, we’re a little less in than we used to be.”
...
“I know Sixers fans will be disappointed because even a week ago they were talking about Lillard and now we’re talking about McCollum but I think you have to to consider it."

lowe is lurking out yourself

Ben Simmons AIRBALLS an open layup 😬 #NBAPlayoffs pic.twitter.com/uS6xcIEfg5

— ZachTheMan (@Blazing_Shadow_) June 19, 2021

could be he needs glasses

one time the Vikings had a receiver named Troy Williamson who was super fast and athletic but couldn't catch for shit, they ended up sending him to something called Nike Vision Camp

they call it lasik now

yeah I got the sense out was supposed to be more "skills" like getting better at looking at a football

they were like ok now look at the football now you see it ok catch it great

sports science